Seeing that Zhu Di was about to refute again.

...... Of course, Zhu Di wants to refute, and there are many reasons to refute.

But Zhu Gaochi pressed Zhu Di's sleeve and asked along Daoyan's train of thought.

"What does Master Daoyan think it should be like without what the master said, 'bloodsuckers' like us to enslave people?"

This question made Dao Yan hesitate.

Dao Yan groaned slightly before replying.

"It is similar to the so-called 'Datong world' of Confucianism in the pre-Qin period."

"The road is also a trip to the world, the world is for the public, the selection of talents and abilities, and the belief and harmony. Therefore, people do not only kiss their relatives, do not only have sons and sons, so that the old have the end, the strong have use, the young have growth, the widowed, the lonely, the lonely, and the disabled are all supported, and the men have a share, and the women have a home. If you abandon the goods on the ground, you don't have to hide them for yourself; The power of evil does not come from the body, and it does not have to be for oneself. It is because of the conspiracy to close but not to prosper, to steal and thieves not to do, so to do not close the outside household, it is said to be the same. ”

Zhu Gaochi still didn't refute, but followed Daoyan's words again.

"Master Daoyan thinks that this world should be the world of the people of the world, not the world of one family and one surname...... But what is the difference between this and Xie Jin's advocacy of restoring the well field system? ”

Zhu Di couldn't help but interject and laugh: "Old monk, haven't you become the rotten Confucian you looked down on the most?" Useless and unrealistic! ”

When Dao Yan heard this, the look on his face was not the anger that Zhu Di expected, but with helplessness and some kind of ...... Despise?

"Xie Jin, what is that?" Dao Yan reluctantly explained, "It's just similar, Lao Wei can't think of a better metaphor for the time being, but it's not the same thing at the root." ”

"Oh?" Zhu Di also got on the bar with Dao Yan, "Since the old monk said that the root is not the same thing, then tell me, what do you think of this matter?" ”

Zhu Di really didn't believe that Dao Yan could find a basis, at least let him see the future world that was possible.

After all, Dao Yan has been recognized as crazy in Zhu Di's heart.

However, something unexpected happened to him.

Dao Yan actually said something that made him dumbfounded.

"As Jiang Shengzhili said, productivity always has to progress, and there has been no progress for more than a thousand years after the unification of Great Qin, which does not mean that there will be no progress in the future, and this process may be very long, but it may also be very short."

"If the ability to grow food increases, a farmer will be able to feed more people than he is now, and the population will definitely flow into more prosperous cities. At that time, perhaps as in the Song Dynasty, trade and handicrafts would develop enormously, creating wealth far beyond agriculture. ”

"Of course, this is also an example of the old man." The disgraced Dao Yan patiently explained, "It is not the same thing as the Song Dynasty at the root, but there is really a great change in the handicraft industry just like the appearance of iron plough and ox ploughing for agriculture." ”

Hearing this, Zhu Di frowned, Zhu Gaochi thoughtfully, and Yuan Gong, who was listening silently, nodded unconsciously.

Yuan Gong, like Dao Yan, was born in the late Yuan Dynasty and had seen the extremely prosperous handicraft industry in the south of the Yangtze River and the rich foreign trade of the coastal city.

It was precisely because he had seen it with his own eyes that Yuan Gong believed it a little.

Yuan Gong said earnestly: "This is indeed possible, the real wealth in the world is not the farmers who grow food, or the craftsmen who make things." Since there have been subversive advances in agriculture, there is no reason why handicrafts will not be possible in the future. ”

"For example, in agriculture, it is like a man pulling his shoulders to resist and turning into an iron plough and an ox ploughing." Zhu Gaochi thought leisurely, "Maybe taking the textile Shu brocade as an example, in the future, it will not be able to be woven by people now, but will quickly be spun by an iron tool like an 'iron plow' under the power of the 'ox'." ”

"You're both crazy?"

Zhu Di muttered, but unconsciously followed the assumption.

If that's the case, doesn't it mean that the Ming Dynasty can cheaply produce a large amount of Shu brocade, which is extremely precious to the Western countries, and thus plunder the wealth of the Western countries through maritime trade?!

Zhu Di didn't know why, but suddenly remembered Jiang Xinghuo's words when he explained maritime trade.

Suddenly, Zhu Di secretly reprimanded himself in his heart.

"What, you're also crazy with the old monk? Think of these things that are simply impossible. ”

Dao Yan naturally didn't know what Zhu Di thought, and what he said next made Zhu Di feel even more incredible.

"Jiang Sheng said that 'productivity' should be understood as 'the ability to grow food' for the time being."

"The old man thought about it carefully, and Fang felt that Jiang Sheng thought that we were really ignorant, so he didn't say the second half of the sentence."

"That is 'productivity', in fact, it should be 'the ability to produce the most valuable things', but for the world today, the most valuable thing is food."

"What about the world to come?" The meaning of 'productivity' is inevitably not limited to 'the ability to grow food', because Jiang Sheng also said that productivity will inevitably develop over time. ”

Dao Yan pointed at Yuan Gong and said, "Just like Yuan Jushi said, the real creators of wealth in the world are not bloodsuckers, but two types of producers. ”

"One is for farmers, producing food; The second is the craftsman, who produces goods. ”

"Who dictates that the world can only progress in the direction of its ability to produce food?"

"When food satisfies the needs of the population, the goods produced become the most valuable things, and they can also become the new productive forces."

Zhu Gaochi was stunned when he heard this.

Zhu Gaochi suddenly spoke, and continued to follow Dao Yan's train of thought.

"As Master Daoyan said, according to Mr. Jiang's theory, the productive forces determine the relations of production, and the changes in the productive forces and the relations of production will lead to changes in the economic foundation of the society, and then subvert the superstructure."

"So, is it understood that after the progress of the productive forces of the handicraft industry, it will lead to the handicraft industry becoming the main body of the social productive forces, that is, the economic base, and then let the people who rule the handicraftsmen become the superstructure of society?"

"Or will the merchants, who later rule the craftsmen, take the place of the nobles who rule the peasants?"

"That is, the dynasty based on the ruling landlords and yeoman farmers will fall."

Dao Yan affirmed, and he nodded and wiped the dust off his face.

"Judging from the personal eyes of Lao Qu who has traveled the world for more than 60 years, whether the imperial court wants to or not, whether to stop it or not, it is very likely that in the future, the handicraftsmen will replace the peasants and become the new dominant class in society."

"And the merchant who rules the handicraft will become the new aristocracy, like the nobleman who rules the peasantry."

"That's not right!"

Zhu Di, who had been thinking for a long time, interrupted Dao Yan.

"Even if you say that the handicraft industry will be subversive in the future." Zhu Di's resolute gaze was extremely heavy, "But in the end, it is still people who enslave people, but from the aristocracy sucking the blood of peasants, to the merchant sucking the blood of handicraftsmen." ”

"In that case, what's the difference between a world ruled by bloodsuckers and a vampire?"

"Or, how do you prove that what you say is that a world without bloodsuckers will become a world of Datong?"