Chapter 155: What Wang Anshi Can't Do
"Warriors of the Nation!"
In the secret room, Zhu Di slapped the chair and got up.
And Jian Yi and Ru Yu can only be silent at this time.
Jiang Xinghuo is a real wise man!
This is a crushing effect entirely from the level of thinking.
Let them be convinced.
Originally, they thought that Jiang Xinghuo was going to allocate a part of the old tax and leave it to the local government as a local tax.
That would, of course, reduce central tax revenues while exacerbating local centrifugal forces.
Unexpectedly, Jiang Xinghuo's idea is that the winner takes all!
I'm the winner, and I'll take all 100 silver coins!
As for the remaining two players, find the 101st silver coin for you, and you go and gamble.
However, it should be noted that this 101st silver coin is not just a silver coin, but two sides of the coin.
Regardless of the separation of families, they pay household registration tax to the local government every year.
Separation, a lump sum payment of a high percentage of the separation of the fair tax.
What? You say that the local government will be in the same league as the gentry and will not collect these taxes?
Wrong!
In the past, the reason why the local government would collude with the gentry was because the object of their joint game was the imperial court!
The imperial court is picking money from their hands!
Their positions are the same, and they will join forces to deal with the imperial court!
And now, the imperial court has left a new silver coin for the place.
This new silver coin needs to be taken by the gentry themselves!
And this is the fundamental conflict of interest!
If you don't pick this silver coin from the hands of the gentry, what will happen to the local fiscal expenditure? How do you pay so many officials?
As for whether this money will eventually be passed on to the poor.
Jian Yi and Ru Yu think that it will not!
Because Jiang Xinghuo cut off this possibility from the system design, and more importantly, if according to the central and local secondary tax systems of the late Tang Dynasty, the supervision of the central government will definitely not be less!
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"I finally understand the deep reason why Mr. Jiang used the late Tang Dynasty as an example."
Xia Yuanji, who was on the other side, also thought of this at the same time.
Looking at Zhu Gaoxu, who was confused, Xia Yuanji explained.
"The reform demands of the Tang court central government at the level of the fiscal and taxation system are mainly to consolidate the centralized power of the Tang court and weaken the local tax power. In the two tax laws, this kind of demand is embodied in the fact that the central government is in a dominant position and uses the 'budget quota management' to regulate and manage the local revenue and expenditure budget. ”
Seeing that Zhu Gaoxu didn't understand, Xia Yuanji explained carefully.
"From the point of view of budget revenue and expenditure, the three-level fiscal distribution method is only stipulated in the three-level fiscal distribution method, and the specific quota is determined by the central government's special envoys and local officials to determine the total quota of budget revenue for the two taxes, as well as the budget revenue and expenditure quotas for the supply, retention, and retention of prefectures, on the principle of 'determining revenue by expenditure'."
In addition to quota management, the Tang Central Committee also set up a corresponding system to supervise budget expenditures at the envoy and state levels. For the budget expenditure of the envoys, there is a system of supervision of the imperial history, if there is any unauthorized violation of the budget expenditure, the supervision of the imperial history can be impeached to the imperial court; With regard to the state-level budget expenditure, there is a dual system of the Imperial History Supervision and the Ministry of Accounting (which is subordinate to the Criminal Department and is the audit department), which not only supervises the process of state-level budget expenditure, but also audits the accounts at the end of each year. ”
"In this way, the central government of the Tang Dynasty has imposed restrictions on the two lines of 'revenue' and 'expenditure' of local finance. Needless to say, in the process of determining the quota, especially the quota, the central government of the Tang Dynasty adopted the method of controlling the quota of budget revenue and expenditure, and combined with the relevant system to audit and supervise the local budget revenue and expenditure, mainly to achieve the purpose of restricting local financial power and thus showing its own dominant position. ”
After listening to this, Zhu Gaoxu also understood.
To put it bluntly, how to budget, inspect and manage the two-level structure of central tax and local tax.
In fact, those capable ministers in the late Tang Dynasty have already given a method!
All the Ming needed to do was to build two new taxes, "progressive household registration tax" and "notary tax for family separation", which was equivalent to digging out a piece of meat and bone from the gentry's body, throwing it on the ground, and letting the local government gnaw it.
As for whether the two will fight?
It's good to fight, otherwise how can the central power play the role of referee and balance?
The localities are harmonious and cooperative, so what is the deal?
And as for whether the gentry will rise up in rebellion because of this?
Don't make trouble, people have a big business, and they are far from that step, which dynasty and which generation of rebellions are not all mud legs that can't survive before they rise up?
"So, if you really want to change it, Da Ming only needs to copy it?"
"That's right."
Jiang Xinghuo nodded.
"The first point, the central and local tax game, the solution, is this."
"Next, let's talk about the second point, that is, the tax game between the central government and the gentry."
"Unlike the progressive tax on household registration and the notary tax on separation, there is no trick in the tax game between the central government and the gentry."
After listening, Xia Yuanji spoke abruptly.
"Can this article really be implemented?"
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"The peaks and mountains are like gathering, the waves are like anger, and the mountains and rivers are on the surface of Tongguan Road. Looking at the western capital, he hesitated and was sad about the Qin and Han dynasties. The palace has made soil, prosperous, and the people are bitter; Death, the people suffer! ”
Jian Yi sighed meaningfully.
However, his exhortation only ends here, and he does not dare to say anything superfluous.
Zhu Di didn't know that this heavenly official was persuading him not to think about moving the gentry.
Otherwise, the gentry will most likely pass on the taxes that the court wants to impose on them to the people in the grassroots operation.
At that time, the court will do bad things with good intentions, but it will increase the burden on the people.
can make money, for Zhu Di, it is a big thing in front of him!
"Yongle Grand Canon", moving the capital to Beijing, and digging the Grand Canal, which one does not need money?
Originally, Zhu Di's method of making money was no different from that of the kings of previous dynasties, and he suffered from the people.
However, Zhu Di now knows that there is a way for people to make money without having to suffer.
Therefore, Zhu Di is confident.
In the past, in the face of the yin and yang weirdness of civil officials, it was difficult for Zhu Di to refute it confidently.
At this time, Zhu Di stroked his palm.
"Good!"
"Jian Shangshu said it well!"
"Xing, the people are bitter; Death, the people suffer! Zhu Di said with a smile, "So I think that Jiang Xinghuo will definitely be able to propose a way to not have to suffer the people and collect more taxes for the imperial court, it seems that Jian Shangshu also means this!" ”
Zhu Di is pretending not to understand.
Jian Yi's face changed.
It was customary to admonish the king, which was the tradition of civil officials.
Anyway, the emperor couldn't say anything about the people.
Originally, this was the case, the emperor had to spend money if he wanted to do things, and if he wanted to spend money, he had to collect taxes, and if he wanted to collect taxes, he could only collect agricultural taxes, so he could only suffer the people.
Collect the gentry's money, don't even think about it!
In the end, it became the emperor who was sorry for the people.
This logical chain of civil servants has lasted for thousands of years.
But listening to Zhu Di's words, and thinking of Jiang Xinghuo's previous sentence "The gentry receive food in one", Jian Yi couldn't help but shudder.
The iron-blooded king, who is accustomed to infamy, plus the prisoner who is not afraid of the idea of the dead.
The law of "suffering and suffering the people" is afraid that it will be broken in Yongle in one day.
And Zhu Di took him with him again.
The last time Xia Yuanji was hit as a target by a hundred officials, Jian Yi still remembers it vividly, and he didn't want to be hit as a target as well.
But now it seems. It seems that I can't run away.
The secretary of the military department and the loyal Bo Ruyu buried his head low at this time and didn't say a word.
This kind of thing that will be torn to pieces, Ru Yu, who came over in the stormy waves of the Hongwu Dynasty, didn't want to get involved at all.
Ru Yu secretly said in her heart: "I can't see me, I can't see me."
"Uncle Zhongzhong, let's talk about it, our Ming Dynasty's taxes, according to that 'stock game', isn't the court good enough? Did the gentry take too much, but they were insatiable and wanted the court to fall? ”
Zhu Di smiled Yan Yan, but the meaning in his words made Ru Yu break out in a cold sweat.
"The minister doesn't dare to speak up."
"What do you have to say, do the two Shangshu think that Jiang Xinghuo can come up with a plan to deal with the contradiction between the tax issue between the state and the gentry?"
Seeing that the emperor was still staring at him, Ru Yu could only reluctantly say in the end.
"Chen thinks that the method that this Mr. Jiang may propose will be a little too ideal."
Jian Yi also said: "Your Majesty, the country and the gentry, after all, the stubborn disease in the tax system has lasted for thousands of years. And the matter of seeking the country is not something that can be done by talking about it, even if it is a good proposal, it will be out of shape in the hands of the officials below. ”
As for whether Jiang Xinghuo can propose a solution to the stubborn problem of the tax system.
The two Shangshu believe that it is possible.
After all, there were so many examples there before, not to mention anything else, just "spreading labor into acres" has solved a problem that has existed for thousands of years.
You said that Jiang Xinghuo couldn't come up with a solution in the face of the tax system, but they really didn't believe it.
The gentry should be one of them, or the most important, of the gentry.
But the problem is that the method is the method, and the implementation is the implementation.
Why can the service be promoted in Jiangnan?
There are two reasons for this.
The first one, Zhu Di really dared to kill, and then Zhou Jin's rebellion case killed people in Jiangnan.
Taken in Zhu Di's butcher's knife, the gentry could only pinch their noses and admit it.
Second, in essence, although the interests of the gentry are touched, it is not unacceptable under high pressure.
Because the apportionment into the mu did not affect the exemption of the gentry themselves, but in the past, only the gentry were exempted, and now everyone is exempt. Although this affected the tenant farmers under the name of the gentry, the land and the output of the land were still in their own hands.
The servitude added to the field tax should pay a little more tax, and in the face of Zhu Di's butcher's knife, endure it.
But tax reform for the gentry was different.
As Jiang Xinghuo said, the tax reform involves two levels, the first is the Ming Dynasty and the Thirteen Political Envoys and even all counties in the world. The second is the Ming court and all the landlords and gentry in the world.
The first one was solved by the 101st silver coin.
Second, collect taxes, especially taxes on the rich.
In all dynasties, I haven't seen any of them.
The reason is also very simple, Jian Yi just said that no matter how good the starting point is, when it comes to the grassroots officials below, it will be out of shape, and even go far from the policy itself.
This is because the difficulty of tax reform lies not in the tax system itself.
Rather, it is.
- The imperial power does not go to the countryside!
It is precisely because of this that Jian Yi and Ru Yu, two important ministers of the state, think that Jiang Xinghuo may be able to do it if they propose a solution.
But to solve the problem, it can't be done!
The matter of imperial power going to the countryside has not been able to be done for thousands of years, why can you Jiang Xinghuo do it?
Can you do it by moving your mouth?
It's just normal for any normal person to come here and make the same judgment.
"Your Majesty." Ru Yu added: "And there is another problem, the minister dares to advise you not to be too optimistic. ”
"The change presided over by Wang Anshi in the Song Dynasty, and the green seedling method in it, is a vivid example."
"Originally, it was to provide relief to the people who were in need, but in the end, the officials maliciously engaged in apportionment for the sake of political achievements, which increased the burden on the people."
Zhu Di thought thoughtfully: "I understand the meaning of the two Shangshu." ”
"It's just two points."
"Finding a solution has not been solved for thousands of years, and you don't think Mr. Jiang can solve it, or the proposal may not be feasible."
"And the imperial power can't go to the countryside, so the tax contradiction between the central government and the gentry is impossible to talk about, and the central government relies on local officials and gentry to collect taxes, how can the gentry be moved?"
"Isn't that what you mean?"
Jian Yi and Ru Yu nodded again and again, obviously this is what they meant.
At this time, Dao Yan, who had not spoken for a long time, said indifferently.
"Listen to it, since Mr. Jiang dares to speak, there must be a way, and this method will definitely be implemented."
Jian Yi and Ru Yu looked at each other, a little incomprehensible, where did Master Daoyan's blind confidence in Jiang Xinghuo come from.
This kind of thing that Wang Anshi can't do, who gave the courage to think that Jiang Xinghuo can do it?
You must know that Wang Anshi changed the law, and with the talent of Wang Anshi, the prime minister consumed his hard work before and after, and in the end, didn't it also end up being a personal death and a political ending?
Therefore, Jian Yi and Ru Yu didn't think that Jiang Xinghuo could do it.
Because the difficulties in this are too great, bigger than the sky!
Imperial power does not go to the countryside, for thousands of years, it has been like this!
(End of chapter)