Chapter 410: Earth [Thank you for the Silver Alliance reward of the gold lord "Warm Sun 1314"!] 】

In the canopy hall, after Jiang Xinghuo briefly gained the upper hand on the first issue of "time and law", the scene fell into a stalemate on the second issue, "agriculture and commerce".

It is related to the turning and adjustment of the economic policy of the Ming Dynasty, and there are too many things involved in it, and the slightest carelessness will make countless people lose their livelihoods, and for both sides of the court debate, it seems that it is difficult to overwhelm the other party for a while while by relying on reason.

After all, the [Salt and Iron Conference] of the Western Han Dynasty was held from February to July. Even if the Ming Dynasty is not so exaggerated, the two of them are here, judging from the length of the Northern Song Dynasty [Yanhe Palace Debate], it is definitely not a short time that can be ended.

"Your Majesty, the minister, as the head of the household, requests to join the court debate."

At this moment, Xia Yuanji suddenly came out of the ranks.

At this time, since it is related to the Ming economy in the future, I don't know how many years in the future, so almost all the bigwigs in the department plan to participate in it and fight for the interests of themselves and their departments.

"Minister, please join the court debate."

"The same is true of the minister!"

After Xia Yuanji took the lead in expressing his position, it immediately triggered a chain reaction, and then several heavyweights stood up one after another, asking to join the court debate until the six Shangshu were all present.

Jian Yi, Ru Yu. Although these people rarely speak on weekdays, each of them is a veteran figure in the court and has an outstanding status.

At this time, they represent the supreme power of the imperial court, and have a decisive right to speak in the temple system of the Ming Dynasty, and they have a lot of resources in their hands, and they can use all levels under the ministry, which can not only directly affect the 14 political envoys, but even indirectly affect the future trend of the Ming Dynasty.

In addition, waiters such as Xu Siwen, Qiao Wen, and Song Li also expressed their intention to participate.

Zhu Di politely rejected the proposals of the ministers.

"This matter is very important, except for the participation of the national teacher, the three princes, the six Shangshu, and several state princes from the Governor's Mansion of the Five Armies, and a few people in the cabinet who are responsible for the record, the rest of the people can retire from the court, and the court debate will be transferred to the Fengtian Palace."

The emperor's words were quickly recognized by the civil and military forces of the Manchu Dynasty, and they also felt that Zhu Di was right, and he was right that "the rest of the people can retreat from the court".

Although some people want to observe, the vast majority of people know that they are just listening to the excitement and cannot participate or decide anything, and the follow-up meeting minutes will definitely be sent out in the "Di Bao", and it will be good to see it when the time comes.

At the moment, let's go eat first.

With the urging of the supervising imperial historians, the morning dawned, and the officials who had traveled back and forth for dozens of miles without eating under the sun were finally relieved and left the Huagai Hall in line.

In fact, holding small-scale, high-level discussions, rather than making the process public, is also in line with the intentions of the top brass of the Ming Empire.

After all, the things involved in the court debate are too important to let others intervene at all, and even the process of discussion is best not to be known to most people, as for what to do next, let them make decisions to worry about, otherwise if there is any mistake, the loss will not be immeasurable.

Seeing everyone's reaction, Xia Yuanji secretly breathed a sigh of relief, no matter what, at least the six Shangshu remained, the balance of power was not so disparity, if you count several princes of the Five Armies Governor's Mansion, then it can even be said that the number of people who support and oppose the two sides is basically equal.

Transferred to the Fengtian Palace, Zhu Di and several princes were also able to take off their crown clothes and change into regular clothes.

Zhu Di glanced at the crowd and said, "Let's start." ”

Seeing that Jiang Xinghuo did not mean to continue speaking, Huang Fu naturally spoke: "The effect of financial management, the Northern Song Dynasty [Yanhe Palace Debate] also has this theory, Sima Guang once said: The people do not add endowment and the country uses spare, this is the words of Sang Hongyang to bully Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, and Sima Qianshu is not clear about Emperor Wu. The goods and wealth produced by heaven and earth are only in this number, and those that are not in the people are in the public. Sang Hong sheep can be used by the country, not from the people, will be taken? As said, in the last years of Emperor Wu, a group of thieves rose up, and sent embroidered messengers to hunt down? Not the people are tired and become thieves? How can this be true? ”

"What the national teacher said, the people are rich and the country is strong, how similar is it to Wang Anshi's words 'the people do not give and the country uses spare', but Wang Anshi changed the law, what is the result? Although the country overdrew its temporary potential in exchange for the abundance of the treasury, but the Northern Song Dynasty died at the hands of Wang Anshi, could it have been a lie? ”

That is to say, on the same national economic debate, Wang Anshi's view is that there is a way to increase the fiscal revenue of the imperial court without increasing the burden of the people, so as to achieve a win-win effect; Sima Guang's view is that if you want to increase the financial revenue of the imperial court, you must increase taxes to the people, so as to benefit the country and harm the people.

If from the perspective of later generations, it seems that Wang Anshi is more reasonable, but if it is fairly evaluated from the results, that is, from the financial and social situation of the Northern Song Dynasty after the reform, then Sima Guang is actually right.

Because the essence of Wang Anshi's reform is indeed not to make a big cake, but to compete with the people for profit, it is the court to use the power in its hands to collect money, although Wang Anshi's reform to the Northern Song Dynasty court to generate tens of millions of wealth, Yuanfeng years than the Jiayou years, the Northern Song Dynasty court's financial revenue is more than 2/3 every year, but because the court meddled in the green seedlings, even loss and other matters, it led to the shrinkage of private commerce, is a typical dynasty and people retreat.

Therefore, Wang Anshi still uses Sang Hongyang's financial management skills, but the packaging is better-looking.

At present, the key to the second question, "agriculture and business", has shifted to Wang Anshi's reform to prove the gains and losses of this economic problem, so Jiang Xinghuo has to talk about the matter.

Jiang Xinghuo must prove that the economic measures in his reform are completely different from Wang Anshi's reform, otherwise the example of Wang Anshi's failure in the reform will not be convincing.

"Wang Anshi's change is in the right direction, but he is on the wrong path."

Jiang Xinghuo said: "Financial management is nothing more than two kinds, one is static and the other is dynamic. ”

"The so-called static financial management technique is what Sima Guang said, 'The goods and wealth produced by heaven and earth are limited to this number, and if they are not in the people, they are in the public', that is to say, the total economic volume of the entire world is certain, and the court will take more, and the people will be less."

"The dynamic financial management technique is to expand the total economy, so that both the court and the people can improve the interests of the other without harming the interests of one party, that is, Wang Anshi's 'the people do not add endowment and the country uses mercy'."

"The reason why I said that Wang Anshi's change of law is in the right direction is because Wang Anshi saw dynamic financial management, but he still took the path of static financial management, so he took the wrong path."

"And the wrong way, does not mean that the direction is not right, the direction of the Ming Dynasty is to go, is the dynamic financial management, abandon the agricultural tax, especially the agricultural tax of the official land as the country's financial pillar of static financial management."

At this time, Qiu Fu, the Duke of Qi next to him, asked, "What is static financial management?" If it is a static financial management technique, how should this road be walked? Can you elaborate on that? ”

Hearing this, Zhu Neng, Duke of Chengguo, Xu Huizu, Duke of Wei, and Li Jinglong, Duke of Cao, also looked here.

"Please explain to Xia Shangshu." Zhu Di said suddenly.

Xia Yuanji bowed slightly, and then said: "Static financial management, if you want to change, there are basically two ways to go, that is, the so-called 'rectification + throttling'. Throttling is to reduce expenditure, usually by stopping construction projects, eliminating redundant officials, and reducing the cost of money, so as to reduce the expenditure of the royal family and the income of officials, so that the court needs to spend less. ”

Zhu Gaoxu said: "To put it bluntly, it's a piecemeal fight, tighten your belt and get by." ”

"That's pretty much it." Xia Yuanji nodded, there is nothing wrong with saying this.

Seeing that several princes laughed, the eldest prince Zhu Gaochi also spoke at this time: "You princes don't have to think it's funny, not everyone is willing to dig food from the soil, but China has been like this since ancient times, for thousands of years, the so-called wealth is food, if you don't find it from the soil, where can you find it?" Rashly take a new path, if a person fails, it is a big deal to hang the beam and die, but the weight of the country, heavier than Mount Tai, is absolutely negligent. ”

This is true, just like Jiang Xinghuo's previous life, the vast majority of migrant workers are not happy with 996, they all yearn for financial freedom, want to have a good vacation on weekdays, go out to live in a five-star hotel, and check in Michelin restaurants, if you can make a fortune and make quick money as an entrepreneurial tycoon, who is willing to work hard to move bricks? But the fact is, let's not talk about whether there is a meal if you don't move bricks, even if you have some savings, how many people dare to start a business rashly?

This principle is also true for the state, and even more prudent, so it is the most prudent to conservatively live within your means, after all, it is related to the life and death of a dynasty and the fate of tens of millions of people, and few people dare to rashly try a new path.

Therefore, static financial management is nothing more than tightening the belt and embezzling private wealth.

"That's it."

The official Shangshu Jianyi sighed and said: "National teacher, it's not that we are pedantic and refuse to support the change of the law, but those who seek the country and serve the government, and they should worry about defeat and not win, in the past thousand years, is it true that no one has tried to make the so-called 'economic aggregate' bigger?" Of course not, the Han and Tang dynasties attacked the Western Regions, which was to use the wealth of trade with the West to get rid of the situation of financial trapping in Tianfu, but with the victory of the Han and Tang dynasties, did it succeed again? ”

"Today's new law of the national teacher, to replace the sole pillar status of agricultural tax with domestic commerce and overseas trade, the idea is a good idea, but the old minister thinks that it really looks good, but it is not easy to achieve the country after war, the treasury is empty, not accumulated for many years, the rope of string money is rotten, and Chen Su is piled up in the old warehouse, there is really no confidence to try!"

Next, Zhuo Jing and Xia Yuanji refuted it.

After a round of intense and full exchanges, little agreement was reached, and the ball was returned to the referee.

At present, I only heard that the emperor's military department secretary Ru Yu and criminal department secretary Zheng Ci have not yet expressed their position, and the third prince Zhu Gaosui has not spoken.

As for Sanyang, Hu Guang, and Jin Youzi in the cabinet, they only have the power to record the minutes of the meeting, but not the power to speak.

Zhu Di thought for a while and asked: "The question now is nothing more than which road the imperial court will take in the future, so how does the national teacher judge Wang Anshi's path?" If Wang Anshi made a mistake, what was wrong? ”

"Let's talk about the direction first, Wang Anshi changed the law, and the direction of the economic part is right."

Jiang Xinghuo said: "The reason why dynamic financial management is different from static financial management is, in the final analysis, that is, the first priority of the imperial court's economic policy is to develop production and expand the total economic output through economic value-added. However, Wang Anshi's mistake lies in the fact that although he has chosen the right direction, the road he can take is still the old road, and he still engages in the 'farmland water conservancy law', and it is important to increase wealth by producing more grain, and although it can help stabilize and increase grain production, can it really have a huge effect on the total economic output? ”

"Of course not." Zhu Di shook his head.

"So the road is wrong." Jiang Xinghuo said in a deep voice, "What can really increase the total economic output is to increase grain production on the one hand, and handicrafts on the other hand. ”

"What is the economy? What can be exchanged for money is that Huang Shangshu said that trade does not produce economy, which is true, but I am a handicraft of the Ming Dynasty, silk, porcelain, lacquerware, tea. What kind of thing is not a total killing? Since handicrafts can generate an economy through trade, the more handicrafts we produce and sell, the more economy we earn, isn't this a way to expand the total economy? ”

Huang Fudao: "Shi Nong Industry and Commerce, Agriculture and Industry certainly create the economy, but the handicraft products are exchanged for goods, neither eat nor drink, even if they are counted as the total economy, they are just the numbers on the books, but in the year of the catastrophe, can they be allocated from the treasury to distribute spices, agate, furs and other materials to the victims to relieve the disaster?" ”

Huang Fu is not raising the bar for the sake of raising the bar, but a conceptual problem that goes deep into the bone marrow.

Confucian scholars and doctors, in essence, felt that what was exchanged for trade was useless.

However, Jiang Xinghuo directly blocked the road.

"The Ming Dynasty carried out overseas trade, and only grain could be used as a settlement item. Huang Shangshu must know that the overseas trade of the Ming Dynasty must be in surplus. ”

"Surplus?"

"The so-called trade surplus, is in a certain unit of time, such as a year, the two sides of the trade buy and sell each other a variety of goods, each other import and export, the export amount of the Ming Dynasty is greater than the export amount of a country, or the import amount of the Ming Dynasty is less than the import amount of a country, the difference, for the Ming Dynasty, it is called the trade surplus, on the contrary, for a certain country, it is called the trade deficit."

Zhu Gaosui said for the first time: "That is to say, for the interests of both sides of the trade, the side that gets the trade surplus is the party that we commonly call 'taking advantage', and the side that gets the trade deficit is the party that 'suffers'." ”

Jiang Xinghuo nodded and said, "That's the truth, you can look at it this way, because the purpose of trade is to make money." The side with a trade surplus is a net profit; On the other hand, the side of the trade deficit is paying a net amount of money. ”

explained the concept clearly, as for why Daming had a surplus, no one doubted.

Is the world's number one power joking with you?

"Therefore, if it is specifically narrowed down to a trade, the surplus part can completely allow the other party to use grain as a payment and settlement item, so that Huang Shangshu thinks that the total economic volume increased by handicrafts through overseas trade is still a book figure that cannot be eaten or drunk?"

In that case, the logic becomes:

Agriculture → access to food

Handicrafts → trade surplus→ receive food

Huang Fu and Jian Yi looked at each other, Jiang Xinghuo wants to do this, then he really brought the grain back, don't you care if it's rice produced by Daming or rice produced by Japan and Champa, don't they all eat the same?

"Food is the foundation of the country, how can it rely on overseas trade? If there is a regular trade deficit, what if the grain is not exported to the Ming Dynasty in the year of the catastrophe? ”

Zhu Gaoxu suddenly said coldly: "Da Ming earns so much surplus, is it all piled up in the treasury?" What does the sailor of the Ming Dynasty do? Where merchant ships can reach for overseas trade, warships can't reach them? ”

Huang Fu: "."

Jian Yi: "."

But Shangshu is Shangshu after all, and he quickly reacted.

Jian Yi said: "Then what if it is a year of great calamity, and there is no food in foreign countries? What should I do if I can't grab it with coercion and intimidation or send troops to rob it? And the people of the Ming Dynasty in China, like the Song Dynasty, generally engaged in commerce, the number of farmers decreased, and the grain output decreased. ”

That's the bar for the sake of the bar.

However, since it is a policy deduction, it is natural to take into account all possible future scenarios, and there is nothing wrong with the leverage.

At this time, you can't mention the reserve grain, because Jiang Xinghuo saw this thing in Changzhou Mansion, Taiping is not reliable for a long time, Zhu Yuanzhang didn't think of this kind of thing, but Chang Ping has not been stolen?

And if the grain reserves are pulled, then we will fall into the question of "how many years if a catastrophe lasts?"

You said that if there were disasters year after year, no maritime trade and foreign trade would be carried out, and no one would be engaged in industry and commerce, the country would not be able to withstand it.

Then he will say, how do you know that if the vast majority of the population is engaged in agriculture, it will not be able to withstand it at that time?

This involves a problem, in the era of agriculture, there is no large-scale popularization of chemical fertilizers, herbicides, harvesters and other products, the output per unit of land is indeed related to the amount of labor input, the more intensive cultivation, the higher the yield per mu, you don't care about the waste of manpower, you just say is not the case, right?

This is a fact, and Jiang Xinghuo cannot deny it.

Therefore, from the very beginning, it is necessary to bypass the fork in the road of "grain reserves" and find another way.

"Fang just said that the trade surplus is settled with grain, in fact, in order to ensure that the population transfer due to overseas trade does not affect the total amount of grain in the Ming Dynasty in the short term, but in fact, the problem of food, the Ming Dynasty does not need to worry about it within three hundred years, and how about it after three hundred years. Emperor Taizu Gao's system has not been in place for more than 30 years, so why should you worry? ”

As soon as Jiang Xinghuo's words came out, it was like a stone thrown into the lake, and there was an uproar in the Fengtian Palace.

"Don't need to worry about food? How is this possible? ”

"Above the court debate, the national teacher must not speak falsely."

"Could it be that the national teacher is talking about chemical fertilizers? But even chemical fertilizers can't do that. ”

But Zhu Di seemed to think of something.

When Zheng He reported to him, he once said that when Jiang Xinghuo talked to him alone, he seemed to mention that there were miraculous high-yield crops on the distant continent.

It was not in a state of lecture, but a private conversation between the two, so the specific content, Zheng He was vague, and Zhu Di had no way of knowing.

But at the moment, it seems that only this thing mentioned by the scaly claw in the past meets the condition of "making the Ming Dynasty not worry about food for the next three hundred years".

"Is this true?"

Jiang Xinghuo nodded and said, "Naturally, take it seriously!" Ladies and gentlemen, please listen to me in detail. ”

Jiang Xinghuo spoke eloquently, and everyone present listened attentively to his words.

As Jiang Xinghuo pointed to the old books on the bookshelves placed on both sides of the hall, he only listened to him speak: "My Chinese civilization was born for thousands of years, although it has gone through more than a dozen dynastic changes, but it still stands on this land, and has never been completely occupied by any barbarians, in addition to the efforts and struggles of the ancestors and the martial arts, there is also a very important point, that is, the people are industrious and simple, willing to farm, every person is the best farmer, every person is worthy of respect." ”

"But." Jiang Xinghuo's words changed, "Have you ever thought about why there is always an invisible upper limit in the population of Huaxia?" Obviously, it stands to reason that with the exploration of mountains, rivers and lakes, the area of cultivated land is getting larger and larger. ”

"When the population was small, such as the Chu and Han dynasties, the Three Kingdoms, the end of the Sui Dynasty, and the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, they were basically around 14 million people; When the population was large, such as Emperor Yuan of the Han Dynasty, Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty, and Emperor Xuanzong of the Tang Dynasty, the population was as high as 60 million. ”

This is Zhu Gaochi frowned and said: "But during the Northern Song Dynasty, the population obviously exceeded 100 million. ”

"That's right, the Southern Song Dynasty is not a national regime, let's just say the Northern Song Dynasty, why is the Northern Song Dynasty alone more than 100 million people?" Jiang Xinghuo asked again.

The princes present didn't think about this question, but it was difficult for them, and they quickly found out the answer.

"—Champa Rice!"

"Yes, it's Champa rice."

Jiang Xinghuo saw the dagger: "And what overseas trade can bring back is not only the so-called spices, furs, carpets and other things, but also high-yield crops whose yield is two levels higher than that of Champa rice!" ”

Jiang Xinghuo said to Zhu Di: "Please also ask Your Majesty to take out the globe." ”

is different from the version shown to Zheng He in the edict, this large globe was specially made for Zhu Di by Jiang Xinghuo after he was released from prison, in order to open his eyes and think about beating the Mongols on the grassland every day, the world is very big, not that if the Mongols are eliminated, they will dominate the world.

"On the globe." Zhu Di waved his hand.

Zhu Gaosui personally went to invite the baby out.

As I have said before, the ministers read history, and the fact that "the world is a sphere" is clearly remembered in the "Yuan History", so when I saw this ball covered by black cloth at this time, although some people were surprised, no one directly came to the level to say.

But when the black cloth was revealed, when the true and complete picture of the land and sea of this world appeared in front of the ministers' eyes, a deep shock still rose from their hearts.

What I want to say here is that in view of Jiang Xinghuo's extraordinary abilities, although it was the first time for the ministers to see the globe, they instinctively chose to believe rather than question it, maybe this is also some kind of recognition of Jiang Xinghuo, although the temple concept may be different, but in the hall, they still have no doubts about Jiang Xinghuo's character, ability, and knowledge.

"This ...... How come?! Zheng Ci, the secretary of the Criminal Department, couldn't help but lose his voice.

"Bang dang."

The elephant wat (hu four sounds) in the hands of the loyal uncle and the military department Shangshu Ruyu fell to the ground.

The others turned their eyes to Ru Yu, but the latter was a little sluggish, obviously not recovering from the shock just now.

"Could it be that the world is really a sphere? Is this what it looks like? ”

"The sky is round and the earth is round, but there is nothing strange about it, the earth is like a chicken, but these countries and landforms on other lands are rare."

Yes, the landform.

In order to facilitate understanding, Jiang Xinghuo also specially invited the skilled craftsmen of the War Bureau and the Weapons Bureau to make mountain peaks with clay, fixed them with fine sand, and made a desert, while the ocean was painted with blue paint, and the plains were painted with green paint, which can be described as very intuitive.

Daming is located in the eastern part of the continent, which can be judged at a glance, and the next simple map judgment is actually not difficult, after all, all the people present are big people and well-informed.

"These countries can correspond to those recorded in the notes left by the Mongol expedition to the west."

Soon, the countries and regions within the Eurasian continent were basically confirmed and accepted by the ministers.

The Mongols left quite sufficient notes and materials on their expedition to the west, and the map may be abstract after all, but there is still detailed information on how many miles a certain place is far from a certain place, what a certain place is called, and what the terrain characteristics are.

Jian Yi asked: "What is the high-yield crop that the national teacher said has a yield that is two levels higher than that of Champa rice?" And where? ”

"Named potatoes, corn, sweet potatoes."

Yes, the Traveler trio is finally officially in action.

Compared with other traversers, Jiang Xinghuo has neither been able to carry modern varieties with him, nor has he been able to buy them from Fanbang merchants, and he is still in the PPT stage, which can be described as a shame for traversers.

But PPT, as long as you have credibility and as long as others believe in you, then everyone can naturally suffocate for their dreams.

The effect of the three-piece set of potatoes, corn, and sweet potatoes on population growth in the agricultural era, it is useless to say that everything else is messy, just say a set of figures, when the "I Qing Dynasty" completed the complete unification, the total population has fallen to 40 million, and just a hundred years later, what is the total number of people? Three hundred million!

In 100 years, the total population has almost doubled every 30 years, and this is the power of the potato, corn and sweet potato trio.

You don't care if Jiang Xinghuo lived a miserable life at that time, you are not this productive, right? The terraced fields in the mountains, with little water and less fertile soil, produce higher yields than the traditional crops grown in the ripe fields of the plains of the Yongle era.

"The place where these three crops are located is this continent."

Jiang Xinghuo turned the globe and pointed to the American continent.

Looking at the vast ocean, the ministers were not only a little amazed.

"So far?"

"Rest assured, as long as the imperial court supports it, within ten years, the ocean-going fleet of the Ming Dynasty will definitely be able to bring these three things back."

This is not bragging, Columbus's broken ships can do something, for the Ming Dynasty, as long as the ships and sails suitable for the ocean are improved, and the positioning method given by Jiang Xinghuo, step by step, first familiar with the traditional maritime Silk Road of the Ming Dynasty and West Asia, and then establish several bases in Africa and the Middle East, and finally bypass the Cape of Good Hope, cross the Atlantic Ocean into South America, it is not a difficult task.

As for why you didn't choose to go north from Japan and then take the Bering Strait to enter North America, the reason is also very simple, the trade direction with the Ming Dynasty is not good, and there is a lack of supply points along the way.

When Jiang Xinghuo told the ministers about the strong adaptability, yield per mu, and the number of people who could support the three-piece suit, the Fengtian Hall fell into a short suffocation.

No one doubts the ability of the national teacher.

And everything along the way, whether it is true or false, seems to be confirmed.

After all, it's difficult to explore by yourself, but the detailed map is given to you, which is equivalent to directly sweeping away the fog of war and automatically finding your way, what's so difficult about it?

If the national teacher is making up blindly in order to deceive everyone to promote the change of the law, then there is no need to go to the new continent at all, and only need to make any major entry and exit along the way to falsify it, and it will not be committed.

"So."

Huang Fu, who was suffocated by his dreams, had a slight tremor in his voice at this moment, and even he didn't realize it.

"Far from affecting the total amount of grain in the Ming Dynasty, overseas trade will increase the total amount of grain and the population that can be fed?"

"Not bad."

Jiang Xinghuo put on a magic stick at the right time, raised his finger to the sky, and put his finger to his lips.

Seeing this, the ministers seemed to understand something.

This is the "secret that cannot be said".

- There are people in heaven.

Xia Yuanji sighed: "I personally went to the south of the Yangtze River, and now I am in the prosperous stage of the four seas and the prosperity of the country and the people, but due to the shortage of food, many people even have problems eating, if this situation can really go forever, how good would it be?" ”

"Ugh."

At this time, the loyal Bo Ruyu also sighed, paused for a moment, and then shook his head and said: "Over the years, I don't know how many people have broken their families in order to fill their stomachs and beg for a bite to eat."

"As important ministers of the country, we should have eliminated such a tragedy, but unfortunately, it backfired!"

There was a long sigh, followed by a long silence.

Seeing that all the officials were dull, Zhu Di suddenly spoke.

"That's it! We have to look forward! ”

With a deep sigh, the hall fell silent in an instant.

Zhu Di glanced at everyone and said slowly: "I know that you have great doubts about the globe displayed today, I can tell you, I also have doubts, but this is one of the top secrets of my Ming Dynasty, no matter what, you have great doubts in your hearts, you must keep it a secret!" ”

After a pause, Zhu Di continued: "In any case, in the maritime trade, the Ming Dynasty has an absolute advantage over overseas countries, since it can increase the total economic volume, even if the high-yield crops on the new continent cannot be obtained in a short time, the Ming Dynasty can still obtain food through the overseas trade surplus, and there is no need to worry about the food crisis after some people engage in business, so why not carry out overseas trade?" ”

In a short period of time, Daming has the buff of population reduction after the Jingjing, and the buff of increasing the production of chemical fertilizers, so there is no need to worry about less people and more food.

Huang Fu and others also discussed the medium-term issue after the economic policy shift, and since there is a "trade surplus to earn grain" to cope with the medium-term, and a "three-piece set of potatoes, corn, and sweet potatoes" to deal with the long-term, then from the perspective of the long, medium, and short stages, the reason for opposing overseas trade because of the actual situation of the empire is not valid.

And at this time, the good thing is that after experiencing the debate ring and Xiaoling's refutation of Wang Jing, no one has anything to say about things like "etiquette" and "the law of the ancestors".

How good is this, put the facts and reason, the facts and the truth can work, then it will work.

Zhu Di said in a deep voice: "I have made up my mind to abolish the sea ban, not only Zheng He and other royal clan fleets can conduct overseas trade, but also merchants who have obtained special trade permits, and the unarmed free trade zone between the Ming Dynasty and Japan is the first batch of pilots." ”

This is part of the debate for the court to conclude the conclusion, Huang Fu and the others naturally have nothing to say.

The next topic shifted to domestic trade.

Jiang Xinghuo continued: "As I said, the first priority of the imperial court's economic policy is to develop production and expand the total economy through economic value-added; The second priority is to obtain economic income through market mining, that is, to fully activate the domestic market. ”

"Wang Anshi's so-called 'green seedling law' and 'market law' are actually in this direction, of course, although Wang Anshi's direction is right, although it is still a dynamic financial management technique, but when formulating and implementing policies, it is inevitable to take the old road of Sang Hongyang, that is, through the power of the state, to intervene in the market by administrative means, but it has been proved that this does not work, is not right."

The essence of the "Seedlings Law" and the "Market Change Law" is that the government intervenes in private credit in order to seek profits from the private sector.

The so-called "green seedling law" is to lend the money and grain in the government treasury to the peasants at an interest rate lower than that of the private loan sharks, which can theoretically help the peasants to survive the period of scarcity, and the government can effectively use idle resources, but in practice. Not to mention that it backfired, it can also be said to be the opposite.

And the "market law" is a commercial loan, that is, the government lends money to businessmen, or loans to government-run firms, to buy goods that cannot be sold, it seems to be good, right? However, this directly led to forced borrowing in the style of cutting leeks, and the power of government-run firms to buy the goods of competitors at low prices through the power of "buying goods that cannot be sold", and finally formed a monopoly and earned a large amount of interest margins.

"So how do you think the national teacher should fully activate the domestic market?" The eldest prince Zhu Gaochi was also interested at this time, and he had some thoughts about this issue before.

Jiang Xinghuo pondered for a moment and replied decisively.

"The basis of property rights, central banks, commercial banks, and corporations."

(End of chapter)