When Cheng Yu said this, he couldn't help but recall the time when all of them miscalculated.

That's a rarity.

Guan yu.... This guy who had never been in his eyes really remembered this time.

Remember the kind that sticks to it!

I have to say admiration!

And Guo Jia also knows that there are many juniors here now, and some things just have to be explained.

"What happened at the beginning can actually be made clearer, or it needs to go on a little further...

Judging from the very beginning, the real problem is because Zhuge Kongming... You all know that this Zhuge Kongming has been working hard for Liu Xie for so many years like a fool.

Over the years, not to mention that he Liu Xie was moved by this guy, why haven't we been moved by the Zhuge Kongming beside Liu Xie?

This guy is too strong... From the barbarians in the south, to the government affairs of Yizhou, then to the re-establishment of Yongliang in the northwest, and finally to govern Sanqin and other places, and finally he even proposed Liu Xie to solve the northern part of the state.

In the past few years, he has not rested at all, and it is not enough to describe his hard work.

Even.... Even I thought about whether Zhuge Kongming would die directly on Liu Xie's court. ”

After Cheng Yu's words were finished, Guo Jia couldn't help but follow directly.

"But don't you see the problem here?

After Zhuge Liang left, is there any difference between the situation faced by Liu Xie and the current Liu Bei?

To put it simply, Liu Bei has now eaten a large piece of fatty meat, but this meat contains the most violent poison in the world.

I want to swallow this piece of meat without damage, and eat this piece of meat to become my own strength.

Then it will take a lot of time to digest this fatty piece of meat slowly.

But now it's obvious that Liu Bei doesn't have the strength, and he doesn't have the time, too... Liu Xie didn't have that time and power at the beginning.

Even if he immediately drew the soldiers and horses of the Western Regions and Yizhou, he couldn't do it!

Not at all!

But as a certain family just said, if Liu Bei has a problem at this time, then we can swallow Jingzhou by taking advantage of the situation.

Then he immediately united with Jiangdong to engulf Jiaozhou, cutting off one of his seemingly innocuous arms.

Immediately after, the two sides sent troops to Yizhou, which was already cleaning up the family and resetting order, and when the time came, Yizhou would not be safe....

At that time, even if Liu Xie reflected, he couldn't help it.

Don't doubt whether we can do it, Liu Xie at that time was like Liu Bei now, it was almost at my fingertips!

But.... Ay! ”

Guo Jia sighed helplessly in the end, and then his face became helpless.

At the beginning... Guo Jia, Xun You, and the Cheng Gong Zhongde in front of them, they have been discussing for a long time, and they feel that Liu Xie will definitely take action in this situation.

After the shot, then Liu Xie will be a strong move, and the rear will be eroded.

and then fought with them to lose both sides, and then whether Liu Bei went north or west, in fact, they didn't figure it out, which is also where they were entangled.

But there's nothing to worry about, because it doesn't matter what he Liu Xuande looks like.

They never saw what Liu Xuande had in mind.

Moreover, in Guo Jia's eyes, if Zhuge Kongming is to dominate all this, then it must be to go north, and then take Hongnong away from them!

By the way, he borrowed Hedong from Liu Xie, and then cooperated with his ability to become Liu Xie's shield.

This seems to be able to help Liu Xie resist the pressure given to him by the Cao family and help him complete the follow-up problems.

But in fact, Liu Bei reached the point where he ran through the north and south, and there was a strong enough city to protect his safety.

Huguan, Keiguan, Hangu Pass, the land of Sanya.... These passes were enough to keep him safe, and then he took advantage of the situation .... You can get enough horses from the state.

Get enough grain and grass in Jingzhou, and then unite and merge the state, you can go south to swallow Jiangdong....

This should be Zhuge Liang's calculation!

But this strategy is too dignified, and the problem is very big!

The follow-up mistake is the result of losing all the games, and it is understandable if Zhuge Liang really dares to do this, that is because he really has this qualification....

But then again, this qualification is easy to do, but there are many, many problems beyond this qualification.

Therefore, if it were Guo Jia and Pang Tong, they should choose to fight with Liu Xie and Cao.

Directly westward into those Yizhou, Shun Jiaozhou, and then swallow Yangzhou... Or force Liu Xie to cooperate with them "thoroughly".

This thorough cooperation, of course, is led by them and Liu Xie is the emperor.

Since then, they have become one, if one is lucky, maybe Liu Bei can complete a snake swallowing elephant.

Swallowing Liu Xie completely into his stomach, it was just... I can't imagine it!

"That's it, no matter what they thought at the beginning, what kind of plan they had." Guo Jia couldn't help but sigh directly, "This is all in the past."

Liu Xie did not send troops, we tossed in vain, at the critical moment.... That Guan Yu directly turned the tide..."

"But if you look at it the other way around, Guan Yu has managed to turn the tide in this situation, but what did Liu Bei get?

He got the land?

Probably Nanxiang and other places... He didn't even step into the Central Plains.

defeated Jiangdong and killed Zhou Yu, Lu Su, Lu Meng, Cheng Pu and so on Jiangdong celebrities.

But in exchange, it's just a few counties such as Haidu.

This is completely incomparable to his big victory.

If Liu Xie wins a big victory, he breaks through our army, and then changes hands to kill Zhou Yu, Lu Su and others.

Don't dare to say anything else, now the Central Plains, Hongnong County, and even half of Xuzhou and the entire Yangzhou don't want to be saved.

It was not difficult for him to easily take these places into his pocket.

But these... It's true that Liu Bei couldn't dream of something, he couldn't do it, and he couldn't do it..."

When Guo Jia said this, he couldn't help but laugh directly, and it could be seen that he really felt a little funny about this matter.

"There is not enough grain and straw, and there is no follow-up strength, even if the means are exhausted, but in the end, it still can't be defeated, and it still can't destroy Sun Zhongmou in Jiangdong.

Even because Lu Xun ruined our good deeds, they were so scared that they all went back directly...

It's funny enough.

This is Liu Bei's problem! ”

"Fengxiao, are you saying that Liu Bei has no hope now?" Cheng Yu also reacted at this time, and his eyes suddenly became a little weird.

He was also the old man beside Cao Mengde back then, the one who helped Cao Mengde get to the present day by foot.

Even the people who helped the Cao family get to where they are today.

What he Cheng Yu should know, he also knows!

Sure enough, after hearing Cheng Yu's words, Guo Jia nodded directly and admitted this point of view very neatly.

"That's it, and it's more serious...

It's not that he has no hope, it's that he and Liu Xie both know that Liu Bei has no hope!

Liu Xie was giving Liu Bei a chance before, maybe it was because Liu Bei was one of his uncles after all, or maybe it was because he rose back then, so Liu Bei paid a lot.

Many of Liu Bei's subordinates have a constant relationship with him and his subordinates.

These relationships, these pasts, make Liu Xie as unlikely to have any fights with Liu Bei as much as possible!

Similarly, Liu Bei also had his own fantasies before this, he always felt that he still had a chance, and the two strategists around Liu Bei always felt that they could go against the sky.

Until they lost Jiaozhou and Yizhou one after another, lost a large number of elites and fierce generals, and lost the power that had been accumulated for so many years.

After losing so much, Liu Bei should also understand what kind of status and Huai Jin he is in now.

He couldn't even seize such a good opportunity, so you can imagine how weak he is now.

You say.... Such a weak Liu Bei, a force without any future and no hope.

Even those under Liu Bei's command still stayed by his side because of benevolence and kindness.

But Liu Xie, an emperor who has been in charge of the court for many years... Why did he still have confidence in Liu Bei? ”

After hearing this, the ...... people understood the cause and effect.

Even if this opportunity arises, they haven't felt the excitement and passion... But they also know that the negotiations behind this must be intrigues, deceit, and deceit... I'm so nervous!

Thinking of this, this group of guys couldn't help but breathe a little faster.

"It's not easy.... It's really not easy..."

Cheng Yu also sighed directly at this time, and then showed a smile towards Guo Jia.

"I've heard, this time... Are you in charge? ”

"No, Gongda was the first to see the problem, and then put forward this idea..."

"Gongda?" Cheng Yu suddenly couldn't help but sneer at this time, "This kind of rough thing, he Xun Gongda doesn't have this ability."

If nothing else.... Wen Ruo, that old guy made a move, right? ”

"Cheng Gong... Gongda is much older than Wen Ruo..."

"So what does it matter!" Cheng Yu directly interrupted the other party's nonsense, and then continued to speak towards Guo Jia with a sneer.

"Now that everything has been made clear, this battle... As good as you can do, how good you can be! ”