Chapter 179: Then this position will let you sit!
'Why do you have to get along with raw materials?' ’
In fact, Xiao Ya is not the only one who has this question, Chen Yue also has it, and Su Caiwei also has it.
In their opinion, this is the most upstream thing, and this kind of industry is actually a traditional production-oriented enterprise, which is related to the main business of Yanhuang Group, but it is not necessary.
Especially Chen Yue, she didn't say that it was better to buy than to build, but she felt that such an expansion would make the assets of the entire Yanhuang Group too heavy.
While the proportion of fixed assets is too high, it also brings an increase in the scale of personnel.
In addition, although raw materials are closely related to manufacturing, the high technical characteristics of semiconductors can be regarded as an expansion of diversification.
It's like real estate companies making steel and producing steel bars on their own.
According to the business philosophy instilled in her by Qingyun, this is definitely not the time to diversify and expand.
"The semiconductor industry is a systems project. The four major process modules, mask, core, packaging, final test and one design, we all have shortcomings and need to make up for them.
However, these are all shortcomings, and they are not strong.
And the material, we are not! ”
Xiao Ya was stunned when she heard this, "No? ”
She thought it was a joke.
Although she doesn't understand this aspect, what is used on the east wind and satellites?
It can't be imported!
Qingyun shrugged his shoulders, "I mean, there are no civilian-grade ones.
And the difference between military and civilian......
You can understand it this way, the error of one or two meters of the missile is not a matter at all.
However, if the error of the blood glucose meter exceeds two points, it is harmful.
Military products, an electric fan and a refrigerator can be used for decades without changing, naturally the above things, it can not talk about advanced processes, nor industrial standards, it only talks about durable, reliable and stable. ”
Xiao Ya immediately shut up when she heard this, and entered her professional blind spot.
Qingyun was actually a little helpless.
Because, the path he wants to take at this moment, even in his previous life, is not scored.
In the past, Huaguo's semiconductor industry really started after more than ten years, and then the development can be described as magnificent.
But......
This development is not without its drawbacks.
Or maybe it's not without flaws.
It is the optimal solution of the times, but not the optimal solution of industrial development.
Huaguo's semiconductor industry, due to various historical factors, has been interrupted several times, and it has been blank for too long, just like an unfinished building that has not been completed for a long time.
This leads to a situation.
It's that in many areas, if you want to say that it doesn't, you are wronging it.
For example, lithography machines.
Does Huaguo really not have a lithography machine?
No.
In the early 90s, the lithography machine developed by the team of Xu Duanyi of Huaqing University reached the world's advanced level.
Why didn't R&D continue?
It was because of the failure of market-oriented competition at that time.
Foreign capital is like this, you don't have it, I have a high price, you have it, and I will continue to sell at a high price after the price war kills you.
Therefore, if you look at the current situation of Huaguo's semiconductor industry from a global perspective, you will find a very disgusting fact.
Basically, there is everything, otherwise it would not be possible Even in 2003, China was the only seven countries in the world with a full set of semiconductor preparation capabilities.
In some places it was repaired, and the main structure was erected.
But the vast majority of places it is unfinished.
This determines the development of Huaguo's semiconductor industry, which has been developing in dislocation from beginning to end, and it is not the common progress of various sub-sectors going hand in hand.
This is especially true in the civilian market.
The design and the four process modules of 'mask, core, packaging, and final test' are the sequence of chip manufacturing.
However, the first development in China is the last link, the final test, and then the packaging, and then the core circle of Huaxin International's breakthrough at this moment.
This creates a developmental inversion.
In the next part, because the reticle was technically blocked by Europe and the United States, we jumped directly to the design.
In the process of historical development, we are chasers, we can follow the map and touch others to cross the river, this is no problem, it can be achieved.
In the wave of the global global village, we have always retreated because the investment in the mask is too high, and we are often hundreds of billions of dollars.
After all, it's cheaper to buy.
And it is really embarrassing for private enterprises to pay hundreds of billions of real money to get to this point.
However, semiconductor is a system engineering, and if one link is stuck, you will not be able to build it in the end, or the profits of the entire development chain will be eaten up by this link, and other links will be reduced to wage earners.
Intel's CPU is like this, a single chip that costs tens of dollars, it dares to sell for thousands of yuan, because you just can't build it.
It's good to be able to buy it, but others won't use it for you, which makes it uncomfortable.
It was not until Huaguo was stuck that it began to develop under the leadership of the state in this link, and concentrated on doing big things to solve the problem.
This is like embedding a module directly in an area above the unfinished building at a high price.
Functionally, there are no problems.
It's just that in terms of cost, it costs a lot of money.
It is like the second ring viaduct in Jincheng.
The main body of the Second Ring Viaduct in Jincheng was built outside the construction site through prefabricated models, section by section, and finally transported to the site to be built like building blocks.
This practice minimizes the impact of engineering construction on people's livelihood and travel.
But the cost is more expensive than repairing the subway.
Jincheng is located in the plain, and the construction cost of one kilometer of subway is 6-700 million, while the final account of the second ring viaduct is 1 billion yuan per kilometer.
If we restore this scene to the development process of Huaguo's semiconductor industry, we will find that because of the uncoordinated development, we have always spent a lot of money to do big things.
For example, EDA is known to be the mother of chips, which is very important, and chips cannot be designed without it.
But how did EDA come about?
Before the advent of EDA, designers had to manually complete the design and wiring of integrated circuits, because at that time, integrated circuits were far less complex than they are now.
When the tubes inside the chip are getting denser and denser, the manual can't be completed, and there is EDA.
So how much is the difference between the first generation of EDA and the last manual drawing?
How hard is it?
It's not hard at all.
It is the continuous iteration that has led to the rapid increase in this difficulty, and people will find it too difficult after 40 years.
What exactly is the difficulty?
The challenge was to redevelop an EDA that could meet the state-of-the-art process at this time.
If it is restored to the first generation of EDA in the 70s of the last century, it is the critical point of manual transformation to electronic automation.
It's not hard at all.
Now standing at this point in 2003, what Qingyun wants to do is to do big things with little money.
The development of Huaguo Semiconductor is a reverse inverted development, while Qingyun is ready to develop positively.
Not to mention the chips of the 70s of the last century, the chips of the 50s still have a wide space in the market.
In the era when it was not stuck, the development of positive obscenity was completely established.
Catching up means that you can cross the river by touching others.
Positive iterations can be done quickly because the path is there.
The chips made in the previous stage in this way must be costly and exceed the market price.
But it is only a loss of money, it can recover some or even most of the cost, and after calculating the big account, the money spent on economic thinking is definitely much less than the concentration of efforts to do big things under the administrative thinking of the previous life.
Restore to the raw materials and produce the raw materials by itself, Qingyun can solve a problem.
Experimental materials.
Semiconductors are always a technical job, whether it is industry or scientific research, they all need materials to practice.
To put it bluntly, you need to burn money.
500,000 US dollars a ton of materials and 60,000 yuan a ton of materials, the degree of distress when burned is different.
This price difference will make the difference between the technical personnel and scientific researchers engaged in the work also be orders of magnitude.
The prosperity of the industry is the coordinated progress of all aspects, not a headache, a headache for the doctor, today to solve the etching machine, tomorrow to solve the lithography machine the day after tomorrow to find that there is no photoresist to do photoresist.
The jewel in the crown of industry is certainly shining, but without the pedestal of the crown, it is only a castle in the sky.
Yanhuang Group should do it right, not make up for it.
After sorting out his thoughts in his heart, Qingyun looked at Qin Manman who was sitting on his lap, "That group of old men handed over to the school?" ”
Qin Manman nodded when he heard this, "The old principal picked them up in the airport VIP lounge and went to the school. Li Lao said that they should take a look at the school first, and then talk to you after finding out the truth. ”
But when she said this, she bit her lip and still looked at Qingyun and opened her mouth, "However, Li Lao still has great doubts about the cooperation between the two sides......
Well, especially Old Man Li, he is very opposed. ”
Qingyun was also helpless.
Li Lao was pitted by Ark Chip or Ark Technology, and he fell into self-doubt, he thought that there was a fundamental contradiction between chip independent manufacturing and company management.
In the middle of the ring, he patted his face and smiled, "It's okay, as long as you have something to talk about, you have a chance to convince him."
Inviting Li Lao to join, I actually just value his reputation, he is on our side, we have to do things smoothly.
If you can convince, it's best, if you can't convince, forget it.
It doesn't have to be him to make it happen. ”
That being said, but for Li Guangnan's joining, Qingyun is actually very sure.
Although it is rude to say this, Emperor Yun may be the person who knows Old Man Li in the world.
The old man has been deceived all his life, but he will still be fooled next time.
In later generations, he is more than 80 years old, and the old man who was fooled again is still standing on that stage with tears in his eyes and shouting loudly, only independent research and development of chips is the foundation of a strong country.
This is also the reason why Qingyun has always insisted on taking the path of the industry.
Backward supplement, there is a poor information.
If there is a lack of information, there will inevitably be countless people who expect to use the 'ark'-style contract foreman method to influence the government's resources, manpower, financial resources, and policies, to 'overtake in corners' and 'break the monopoly'.
is above board, everyone can see the progress, and foreigners can also see it, but you can't kill me, there is a kind of mushroom you throw directly.
Seeing this, Qin Manman could only nod and say no more.
That's right, you have to try it to know if it works.
Su Caiwei, who was on the other side, saw that the two of them had finished speaking, and her face instantly collapsed.
"Qin Manman, are you enough? What a system in the office! ”
Hearing this, Qin Manman turned his head, glanced at her playfully, and then got up.
The four girls next to her were stunned when they saw this.
Especially with his eyes wide open, he can put a small fist into his mouth.
With her understanding of this 'brother and sister', the empress is definitely the master of 'leading and not going backwards'.
The main thing is a 'cadre program dictatorship'.
How could he still give in to Su Daji's provocative words?
Qin Manman, who stood up, stretched lazily and smiled mockingly at the corner of Su Caiwei's mouth,
"Then this position will let you sit."
Su Caiwei, who had a cold little face, said at this time, "I'm not as ignorant as you." ”
Chen Yue, who was sitting next to her, swallowed a mouthful of saliva with difficulty when she heard this.
Why did the style of painting suddenly change?
The chair beneath her looked like nails had been planted, and she wondered if she should get up and get out of the fight.
She was afraid that when the East and West Second Palaces fought, she would hurt the pond fish.
……
(End of chapter)