But Ma Chao thought about it, Lu Zhi was a great talent in the late Eastern Han Dynasty, and the decision he made must be the most appropriate. Since I have joined forces with him, it is natural for us to trust and compromise with each other. Therefore, Ma Chao thought for a moment and said happily: "Okay! Just listen to Lu Gong's suggestion, we will take it as our responsibility to seize two-thirds of the family's total assets! ”

Among the people, Ma Chao has the heaviest military power, and Lu Zhi has the highest prestige. Therefore, after Ma Chao and Lu Zhi reached an agreement, everyone had no objections.

Liu Yu added: "In addition, our goals should also include destroying the dock walls of the powerful family, and prohibiting the powerful people from building too many dock walls in the form of a law. In this way, they lose the barrier they can defend, so that they do not dare to rebel easily. ”

Ma Chao and others said: "What you said is very true. ”

Cai Yong suddenly remembered what Bai Bojun Guo Tai said to him before, sympathized with his plight, and added: "You also said just now that the reason why millions of people have become moths and thieves is actually desperate and cornered. Since we are determined to save the people of the world, we cannot leave out the people who are thieves. ”

Ma Chao was very surprised, rebels have always been criticized as "thieves", and they have been scolded by history books and public opinion. I didn't expect Cai Yong, a member of the ruling class, to be able to understand the difficulties of those people and stand up for them to speak fairly, this kind of thing is really comparable to "a weasel greeting a chicken for the New Year", but Ma Chao knows that Cai Yong'an is of course kind.

Ma Chao knows that there are many great men in history, who are obviously members of the ruling class and have a very prosperous life, but they are willing to stand up for the ruled class. Lu Xun, Engels, Zhou Gong, Tolstoy, etc., are all the same. This is due to the needs of the times, and it is also due to the strong sense of morality and mission of these great men.

Liu Yu also said: "Yes, if it weren't for the end of the road and there was no choice, these millions of people would never join the Yellow Turban Thieves." I heard that the situation of these millions of moth thieves is also very difficult, and the black mountain thieves entrenched in Taihang Mountain have little food, so they have to go down the mountain many times to loot. When he succeeds in taking power, he must treat these millions of people with gentleness. ”

Ma Chao nodded approvingly, thinking that the history books recorded that Liu Yu was kind, and it was indeed true. Even Liu Yu used a gentle way to urge the rebellious Karasuma people to be happy and convinced of him. At this time, it is natural to sympathize with those Yellow Turban Army.

Ma Chao said: "What the two of you said, Chao also appreciates it very much. That being the case, if we are in power, we should actively persuade the moth thieves to surrender and settle them properly. As long as they return to recuperate, even if Zhang Jiao comes back from the dead, they will never rebel again. ”

Everyone nodded.

Huang Wan said: "Not only that, but our goal should also include the eradication of the Ten Permanent Servants!" ”

As soon as Huang Wan reminded him, everyone came back to his senses. Lu Zhi said with a cold face: "The ten permanent servants pretended to use the imperial power to bring disaster to the world, and their brothers, nephews, doormen, and henchmen are all over the world. If these cancers are not eradicated, there will be no peace in the world. ”

Lu Zhi set such a tone, and the rest of the scholars were also indignant.

Ma Chao thought of Jian Shuo, this was a big help for him, and he must not be injured by mistake. Ma Chao hurriedly said: "Chao, like the public, hates the eunuchs very much. But Chao believes that eunuchs are an important help to the Son of Heaven, and if we want to get rid of them, the Son of Heaven will not agree to the deal we make. ”

As soon as I heard what Ma Chao said, everyone understood it very well, and this is indeed a very real problem. If they killed all the eunuchs that Emperor Liu Hong relied on to control the court, then the emperor would have seriously suspected that they were going to rebel and would not agree to a deal with them at all; What's more, without the emperor's permission, even though Ma Chao has the Xiliang army, they are not very sure that they will be able to get rid of the eunuchs who have their own imperial power protection cover; Even if the emperor forcibly got rid of the ten permanent servants without the emperor's permission, then they would still be rebels and would not be supported by the people of the world.

Therefore, without the permission of the emperor, the ten permanent servants must not be killed. Otherwise, if the emperor did not agree to the deal, their plan would be stillborn.

But if you don't kill the ten permanent servants, not to mention that the ten permanent servants themselves are too harmful, or even no less powerful than the family; And the Ten Servants may also hinder their plans.

It is precisely because of the contradiction between killing and not killing that Lu Zhi, Liu Yu, Yang Biao and others all made difficulties.

Seeing that things froze again, Ma Chao immediately spoke: "You don't have to worry about it. First, we can be sure that the Ten Standing Servants will be killed after all, but how to kill them is debatable; Second, in order to kill the Ten Permanent Servants, you must try to get your Majesty's permission. I believe that there is no way in the world, and the road is made by people. As long as we carefully design, there is still a way to get His Majesty to agree to get rid of the Ten Permanent Servants.

Thirdly, not all eunuchs are our enemies, and some eunuchs can actually be used by us, and they are of great use. And to get rid of all the eunuchs, His Majesty will never agree. Therefore, we can only identify those evils from them and eradicate them; And leave those who are beneficial and harmless. ”

Lu Zhi said: "What the public says is very true. I think that at the beginning, His Majesty imprisoned the party members, and countless scholars suffered because of it. It is also thanks to the intercession of the Zhongchang attendant Lu Yi to persuade His Majesty to lift the party. It can be seen that there are also loyal and good people among the eunuchs, and they should indeed be distinguished so as not to be injured by mistake. ”

Ma Chao saw that it was almost dusk, and only then did he realize that he and these fourteen scholars had been talking in detail about the present from noon.

Ma Chao concluded: "All in all, our goal, first, is to attack and weaken the family and seize its Thai half assets; the second is to weaken the power of relatives and eunuchs; the third is to appease the displaced people and persuade the Yellow Turbans to surrender; The fourth is to reform the system and the law. Ladies and gentlemen, there is still a long way to go! ”

"Yes! There is a long way to go, and the future is even more difficult! When Huang Wan heard this, he couldn't help but feel this emotion.

Yang Biao said loudly: "Although there is a long way to go, the scholar cannot fail to Hongyi." Even if these plans are very difficult, the old man believes that as long as you and I work together, the chances of success will be multiplied! ”

Liu Yu also said with full spirit: "Yes! It's man-made, and we should encourage it! ”

Ma Chao had an idea, had a whim, and said excitedly to everyone: "Everyone, Chao has a suggestion, I don't know whether to talk about it or not." ”

Lu Zhilang said: "The public is a righteous man, what he says must be reasonable, please give advice!" ”

Ma Chao said: "I don't dare to teach you." Ladies and gentlemen, since ancient times, it has been difficult to find bosom friends and comrades. And we are interested in helping the community and saving the common people, and we have to gather here today to discuss the plan, this is really the meeting of the boya period! ”