Chapter 661: What Can You Do If Heaven Doesn't Help You?

Chen Kuan sent a wooden box over, and after opening the wooden box, there were many pieces of music stacked inside, all of which were the result of discussing Xie Qian's case at various yamen in Beijing.

Chen Kuan personally took it out and put it in front of the emperor.

Liu Jian and Li Dongyang glanced forward first, and probably knew that the emperor should have read it, and it was obvious that the emperor had a rough idea of the result.

"Criminal Department." Zhu Youzhu said.

Wang Shi, the secretary of the Criminal Department, got up and said, "The minister is here." ”

"No need to be polite." Zhu Youzhu originally wanted to signal for Wang Shi to sit down and say, but he felt that since it was a courtier, he had to show something, after all, he didn't sit down with Zhang Zhou to talk about things, so he didn't force it, "Tell me, what is the opinion of the Criminal Department on this." ”

Wang Shi said: "The criminal department discussed that when the troops were used in the northwest before, the cabinet department advocated to collect food and salaries for the northwest, and gave more orders to the household department, etc., and the cabinet department contributed to this. Xie Qian is a minister of the cabinet department, and he should take this credit and take it first. ”

"Hmm." Zhu Youzhu nodded, his expression was calm, "Before, when the court was discussing the use of troops in the northwest, the cabinet was indeed the main force to increase food and salaries for the northwest, etc., and his opinion was the same as mine, but this is not a meritorious service, but it is just what the courtiers should have suggested." ”

Wang Shi also said: "Xie Qian has a supportive attitude towards the use of troops in the northwest, and later privately discussed with the officials of the DPRK and the Central People's Republic of China to impeach the generals who used troops in the northwest. If you judge the crime by talking about the affairs of the court or the military and political affairs, I am afraid that this trend will only make everyone in the court and the center of the country feel like a cicada. In the eyes of the minister, even if Xie Qian did something wrong in this matter, he should be dealt with leniently and should not be punished with a penalty. ”

"Really?" This time, Zhu Youji's attitude has changed, and he is not very happy.

Wang Shi looked at this posture and hurriedly said: "The minister only expressed some superficial opinions, as for the case file, Xie Qian hindered the household department from transferring money and grain to the northwest, and hindered the transfer of troops, etc., it should be found that there is no evidence, if he really hinders the use of troops by the imperial court, he should be severely punished." ”

Zhu Youzhu said: "Yes, he didn't explicitly hinder the transfer of money and grain to the northwest, but even after the British sent troops, he couldn't even guarantee basic grain and grass, and he needed to go to one place to raise it." Even when the household ministry wanted to transfer money and grain, the cabinet did not approve it for a long time......"

Liu Jian hurriedly stood up and said, "Your Majesty, the old minister believes that the minister is also at fault in this matter. Because it involves the dispatch of money and grain after the autumn grain is put into storage, the minister may have been delayed in this matter, but there has been no delay. ”

Zhu Youzhu asked: "Then the cabinet is supportive of the transfer of troops, horses, money and food to the northwest, right?" ”

"Yes." Liu Jian replied.

Zhu Youzhu nodded and said, "Then why can't the soldiers and horses who went out to the northwest get money and food for a long time?" ”

"This ...... The situation is complicated, the transfer of troops from the Beijing Division, the need to transfer men and horses from all over the northwest, and the money and grain also need to move with the soldiers and horses, which is not something that the people in the Beijing Division can decide, and a lot depends on the situation in the northwest at that time. Liu Jian probably meant to remind the emperor.

Whether the northwest can transfer troops to Zhang Mao and provide supporting grain and grass is a matter in the northwest, and it is a bit excessive to say that our cabinet does not cooperate, and even has to punish Xie Qian.

Zhu Youzhu said coldly: "Then after Xinjian Bo dispatched troops and horses to the British Duke and allocated grain and grass, why did someone join forces with the officials to impeach him?" ”

Liu Jian didn't answer this time.

Wang Shi was waiting for Liu Jian to answer, but when he saw that Liu Jian, who was standing together, did not speak, he knew that Liu Jian had thrown the problem to him.

Wang Shi stubbornly said: "Back to Your Majesty, this may be because of the new uncle's mobilization of troops and horses, which is not in line with the laws of the imperial court." In the case of the generals who go out to the expedition to transfer troops, they should be recruited and transferred by themselves after the British government arrives at the localities, and the generals in the northwest should not be mobilized on their own, so as to prevent some people from transferring troops without authorization by military orders. ”

Zhu Youzhu said: "What do you mean, do you agree with the impeachment of this matter?" ”

"The minister didn't mean that." Wang Shi was so frightened that he quickly denied it.

He couldn't help but squint his eyes and glanced at Liu Jian, who was also standing.

This is the difficulty of being a courtier, on the one hand, you have to cater to the ministers, but you can't cater too much, lest the emperor think that you are the same heart as the traditional courtiers, and he himself is speechless for his mentality of surviving in the cracks.

Zhu Youzhu said coldly: "If I'm not mistaken, it's not just Xinjian Bo who participated in the impeachment, but also the chief soldier Ma Yi and others, right?" If the imperial court had adopted this opinion at the time, what would have been the result? ”

Wang Shi didn't answer at all.

That's where the hard part goes.

participated in the impeachment of Ma Yi, if Ma Yi was defeated, then people in the court and China would feel that Xie Qian was simply Kong Ming alive, and he had long expected that this move would bring evil consequences.

But it was Ma Yi who won, and the result was very uncooperative with Xie Qian, so Xie Qian was no longer an afterthought, but a criminal minister.

God doesn't help you, what can you do.

Cheng Minzheng came out at this time and said: "Your Majesty, the minister thinks that the merits and demerits of this matter are indeed not something that can be clearly explained in one or two sentences, if you want to dig deeper, it can only be...... Think long way. ”

It means that we should continue to drag on, boldly assume careful argumentation, and retry the case for a year and a half, maybe drag it out and forget about it, and then release the previous suspicions?

This will Liu Jian and Li Dongyang instinctively feel that this matter should not be delayed any longer.

Lu Wan walked out and said: "Your Majesty, Xie Qian's people, the crime is to talk about the military and the government, the party is the same and different, if the front-line soldiers have no merit in the war, they will be dismissed and questioned, and even asked for capital crimes. ”

Li Dongyang couldn't help glaring at Lu Wan.

He could see that Lu Wan seemed to be going to put Xie Qian to death in this matter.

But it's also a bit of a turnaround, after all, Lu Wan also said that after the death of the front-line soldiers, they can still be pardoned, from the past few decades of the Ming Dynasty to lead troops to fight generals, there are defeats or fruitless achievements, or slack, many people who have been sentenced to death have basically been pardoned to exile.

The most recent one is Zhu Hui, the prince of Baoguo.

Li Dongyang also understands that it is reasonable for the Upper Hearing Office and the Cabinet to have a dispute over the emperor's think tank, and it is reasonable for the Upper Hearing Office to make it clear that it is against the Cabinet.

The Emperor probably did not want the Upper Hearing Office to reach a settlement with the cabinet on the matter of Xie Qian.

The king wants to check and balance the minds of the courtiers, and the resourceful courtiers can also understand it, and even secretly promote this check and balance, so that the emperor can take it lightly.

Liu Jian said: "Your Majesty, this case has been delayed for two months, and it is really not appropriate to ...... Delay again. ”

Zhu Youzhu looked at Chen Kuan on the side and said: "It's the public party in Beijing, and they have all discussed this matter, and they have all submitted it here, right?" ”

"Yes." Chen Kuan replied.

Zhu Youzhu said: "I did say before that if most of the ministers in the court and the central government protect the elder of the pavilion, I will not blame the past, and I can let him return to his hometown to live in his old age, which can be regarded as a full of the feelings of the monarch and ministers." Did the military department send it? ”

Chen Kuan was stunned, then thought of something, and reminded: "Back to Your Majesty, Zhang Shangshu of the Ministry of War went out of Beijing and was not in the public office, so he did not participate in the discussion of this matter, and Zhang Shangshu said that he ...... I want to avoid suspicion in this matter, so I ......"

Zhu Youzhu said angrily: "I asked the Ministry of War, not Bingkuan." I never wanted Bingkuan to say anything about this. ”

Chen Kuan breathed a sigh of relief and replied: "The military department also made a discussion, and the result was...... Although there is a fault, it is not enough to be judged as a crime, and it should be punished with a small punishment and a big admonition, and the punishment can be sufficient. ”

"Punishment? Does that mean that he is still in court? Zhu Youzhu frowned.

Originally, Zhang Zhou was in the Ministry of War, and it stands to reason that the Ministry of War was the vanguard to deal with Xie Qian, but who knew that it seemed that the Ministry of War was very polite in this matter.

Chen Kuan said: "That's true. ”

Hearing this, Liu Jian and Li Dongyang were at least relieved, because judging from the various feedback they received, no matter what civil officials and yamen in Beijing, they were tolerant of Xie Qian, and even if they said that Xie Qian was wrong, they did not say that Xie Qian was punished with capital crimes like the Shangting Office.

If according to the rules set by the emperor before, as long as no one follows the opinion of the listening office, then the matter is revealed.

Xie Qian can still resign and return to his hometown, even better, and let him stay in the DPRK for a period of time, let him take the initiative to resign, and even complete the handover.

And the inheritance within the civil service can also be completed, especially the dispute between the cabinet and the upper hearing office, which will end in the victory of the cabinet, even if it is a pyro victory, it is enough for the traditional civil servants, and sacrificing Xie Qian's career is nothing to them.

Zhu Youzhu asked: "There is no public office, and the result of the negotiation is different from this?" ”

Chen Kuan said: "Not really. ”

Zhu Youzhu said: "But why do I feel that I seem to be missing someone's play? You come and have a look. ”

Chen Kuan was stunned.

The emperor is very dissatisfied.

The whole dynasty is on the side of Xie Qian, only the listening office is determined to kill Xie Qian, which is a bit of a disappointment to the emperor, the so-called checks and balances are just a one-man show in the listening office?

Chen Kuan hurriedly walked over and read each of them in detail, and even divided them into categories, carefully reading them from all the central yamen in the Beijing Division, including their opinions...... Then he said to the emperor with great certainty: "Your Majesty, the slave thinks that it is gone." ”

"Who said that?" Zhu Youzhu said, "Isn't there still a Yanwu Hall?" ”

"Huh?"

Not to mention Chen Kuan, even the remaining ministers present were surprised.

How can there be a matter of Yanwutang here?

Like the listening office, the Yanwutang is also a yamen that has just been established, but logically speaking, there are all military attachΓ©s, which are a bit similar to Guozijian, just a training of civil servants and a training of military generals.

Zhu Youzhu said: "Even the Beiyong sacrificial wine is on the opinion, isn't the Yanwutang not qualified?" In the Yanwu Hall, they are all pillars of the dynasty, so what is the problem with them participating in this matter? Who is the commander of the Yanwutang now? ”

Chen Kuan thought about it and admired the Martial Arts Hall...... This seems to be what Wenchen or Wuxun should do.

But after the winter, Yanwutang is still on vacation, because most of the generals in Yanwutang have been sent to various places in the northwest, some follow Zhang Mao, and some have been transferred to Liaodong...... After all, it was the plan of Zhang Zhou to go to the Jurchens immediately.

Even if you go to Yanwutang to arrest someone, you won't be able to catch anyone.

"No one?" Zhu Youzhu said.

"Slave maid...... Come to think of it, it seems to be ...... Zhang Shangshu? Chen Kuan thought about it, and it seemed that Shangshu of the Ministry of War was the direct boss of Yanwutang.

Lu Wan corrected: "At the beginning of His Majesty's establishment of the Yanwu Hall, the Yanwu Hall was not subordinate to any Yousi, and it was clearly stated that he could speak directly to His Majesty. ”

"Who?" Zhu Youzhu frowned, as if he hadn't thought of it himself.

"Back to Your Majesty, it's Liu Jin and Liu's father-in-law, and he is the official of the Imperial Horse Prison." Lu Wandao.

Zhu Youzhu said: "Is that Liu Jin from the East Palace?" ”

Chen Kuan said with an embarrassed face: "Back to Your Majesty, exactly." ”

"Where are the others?" Zhu Youzhu asked.

Chen Kuan thought about it, and he couldn't answer this question.

Lu Wan replied for him: "Gonggong Liu was previously transferred to the northwest to cooperate with the British Duke to send troops and other matters, and he was stranded in Yitouguan and other places, and after the end of the first battle in Guanshan, he has returned to Beijing, and is now waiting for the imperial court to dispatch in Beijing. ”

Zhu Youzhu nodded and said: "Yes, when I transferred him to the northwest, I didn't say that I took away his position as the commander of the Yanwu Hall, and now in the Yanwu Hall, he is indeed the presiding officer." Then it is up to him to find someone to discuss whether this matter should also be discussed by the DPRK and China. ”

When Li Dongyang heard this, he really couldn't listen to it, so he came out and argued: "Your Majesty, it is really not in accordance with the rules to discuss politics with martial artists. ”

Lu Wan said: "Elder Li Ge, I don't understand, what kind of government is this?" Previously, His Majesty had a purpose and did not allow the Governor's Mansion to participate in this matter, but Yanwutang was neither subordinate to the Governor's Mansion nor directly related to the Governor's Mansion. ”

"You!" Li Dongyang almost wanted to hit someone.

He also knew that Lu Wan was a person from Yanwutang, and Lu Wan had a great say in this matter.

The victory was already in hand, and if he had to let Yanwutang come out to agree on Xie Qian's culpability now, it was very likely that he would stand on the side of the Shangting Office.

Zhu Youzhu said: "I also want to adopt more opinions, besides, are all people in the army in this Yanwu Hall?" ”

Chen Kuan said: "Back to Your Majesty, it's not like that, there are both military ministers and civil ministers in the Yanwu Hall, Your Majesty, have you forgotten?" Nowadays, many people in the DPRK and China have served in it, such as Zhang Shangshu of the Ministry of War, Tang Shilang, and Lu Shilang, as well as Xinjian Bohe Wang Shilang for the trilateral general system......, etc.

"That's right." Zhu Youzhu said, "What's the reason for not letting Yanwutang also participate in the discussion?" This will send people, and within two hours, the results must be discussed in the Yanwu Hall. I don't have to ask anyone, I don't have to listen to anyone's advice, just let them discuss on their own, and just present the results to me, and I won't go anywhere, just wait here. ”

It's to be freshly baked.

No one listens, just listen to Liu Jin, of course, Liu Jin is not a person who decides, nominally he wants to discuss with the people in the Jingyan Wutang.

Li Dongyang even realized that there is still a fart in Beijing in Yanwutang now?

Who did Liu Jin talk to?

Just watch him sing a one-man show alone?