"Master Zhao, have you heard of it?" Shenhai Second Polytechnic University, who had just graduated from the company and not long after coming to the company, said to Master Zhao.

As a local state-owned enterprise in Shenhai, Huahong's 8-inch production line can be said to be one of the most advanced production lines in Huahong and even Huaguo, even so, front-line engineers can only recruit from Shenhai Second Polytechnic University.

Huahong's front-line manufacturing department also wants to recruit people from Fudan, Jiaotong University, Tongji and other places, no matter how bad it is, it has to be Shenhai University. The result is that Huahong can indeed recruit people from these places, but as long as it is said that they want to come to the front-line manufacturing department, these university graduates are not willing to come.

In the current era when academic qualifications have not been depreciated, graduates of Fudan Jiaotong University's counterpart majors can go to the offices of foreign semiconductor companies in China. Inferior college graduates can also stay in Huahong's headquarters, even if they do chip design, it is better than going to the first-line manufacturing department.

Therefore, only Shenhai Second Polytechnic University is at the level of Shenhai Second Polytechnic University in the first-line manufacturing department of Huahong. In the 80s of the last century, Shenhai Second Polytechnic University had a department of electronic and electrical engineering, which was a counterpart major in integrated circuits. Although those things taught in school are not so relevant.

Master Zhao is about ten years older than Xiao Zhang, and is a college student who graduated from the School of Electronic Information and Electrical Engineering of Jiaotong University.

When Master Zhao first graduated, he worked in Huajing Group, and the Huajing Group at that time was equivalent to the current Huahong. In 78 years, Huaguo spent 265 million yuan to establish a bipolar integrated circuit production line in Wuxi that was the largest in the country and the most complete industrial chain node.

Master Zhao heard the excitement in Xiao Zhang's tone, he is nominally the technical director of the entire 8-inch production line, and technically manages the entire front-line engineers, but to put it bluntly, he is the highest-level engineer. Because of his kindness and easy-goingness, Xiao Zhang became familiar with Master Zhao not long after.

"Be quiet, afraid that others won't hear you? Later, when we have lunch at noon, we will find a remote place, and you can tell me what is going on. ”

After finishing speaking, Master Zhao looked at his nose, nose, mouth, mouth, and heart, pretending not to hear anything, and continued to do the work at hand.

This is also what Xiao Zhang admires about Master Zhao, because compared to last year, they don't have so much work this year.

In the current environment, when the machine starts, it is a chip to lose a chip, and there is no profit at all.

The bursting of the bubble in the semiconductor industry caused by the Internet bubble is far from over, and the black swan event of Ameriken can be said to be profitable as soon as next year.

And Master Zhao can pretend to be very busy when he has no work to do, and when the leader asks, he can split a job in his hand into 10 to report.

After finishing the morning's foreign work, Master Zhao and Xiao Zhang sat in a remote corner of Huahong Canteen, and then Master Zhao asked, "Say, what did you hear when you went to the group this time?" Be quiet, you kid! ”

Because Xiao Zhang has just graduated and is a new college student, he often sends Xiao Zhang to report to the headquarters for some transactional handover work. If you say it well, it's a report, and if you don't say it well, it's an errand.

Xiao Zhang lowered his voice and said: "I heard the chairman of Huahong NEC calling when I was in the toilet today, and I don't know who he was talking to, which mentioned whether the group wants to cooperate with Xinxin Technology."

Xinxin Technology has chip design and lithography machines, and our previous cooperation with Xinxin Technology has stayed on lithography machines, and we have been helping Xinxin Technology test their lithography machines for a long time.

This was also cooperation before, if the group wants to cooperate with Xinxin, it will most likely be cooperation in other fields, do you say that Xinxin Technology wants to give us some orders?

Huahong NEC can't do it, and then it's our turn? ”

Master Zhao asked, "How do you know it's Xia Zhongrui?" ”

Xia Zhongrui is the chairman of Huahong NEC, and was previously the director of the Shenhai Integrated Circuit Office, and was sent to Silicon Valley to inspect before the establishment of Huahong NEC, and did some work to attract investment, and introduced Silicon Valley's chip design companies to Zhangjiang Hi-Tech Park.

He is now also a rubber stamp in Huahong NEC, and the management power is all in the hands of Kei Shimakura, vice chairman and general manager.

Xiao Zhang said: "After I graduated and joined Huahong last year, he came to give us a lecture during the training of new employees, and his voice was more recognizable, so I heard it as soon as I heard it. ”

Master Zhao thought for a while and then said: "It's possible that Xinxin Semiconductor, a subsidiary of Xinxin Technology, focuses on chip design.

You know that Ameriken is selling very well the Mphone, and Apple's recently launched iPod, and the chips on these devices are all designed by Xinxin Semiconductor.

At the end of last year, Jiaotong University approached the Ministry of Science and Technology to make a breakthrough in deep submicron integrated circuit design technology, have you heard of it?

Xinxin Technology has already achieved a technological breakthrough, and the designed 0.13 micron chip has been commercialized on a large scale. I really don't know what Jiaotong University has to brag about, and I specially held a celebration banquet. ”

Deep submicron integrated circuits are usually called submicron level of 0.35-0.8 microns and below, 0.25 microns and below are called deep submicrons, and 0.05 microns and below are called nanometers.

In 2000, Shenhai Jiaotong University broke through the difficulty of 0.35 micron integrated circuit design technology, and conquered 0.25 micron integrated circuit design technology.

Later, Chen Jin returned to the Hanxin, which is a 0.18-micron semiconductor chip, which is considered close to the international advanced technology and is touted.

Until now, Xinxin Technology has come up with a large-scale commercial 0.13 micron chip, although because the positioning of Xinxin is relatively vague, so the Chinese official has not hyped it.

To be more precise, I can't find an angle to blow, Huaguo has been engaged in more than ten years to break through the 0.25 micron chip design, and others directly launch it is 0.13 microns, or a large-scale commercial version, the gap between them is too big, and there is no way to find a mountain in China.

Therefore, the technological breakthrough achieved by Xinxin Technology is not as influential as the technological breakthrough caused by Hanxin, and it is only mentioned in the news.

Xiao Zhang said: "It's not easy for Jiaotong University to get the chip design of deep submicrons, Master Zhao, you are good at everything, but sometimes you are too cynical, and you can't look down on that." ”

Master Zhao retorted: "It's not that I don't look down on anything, I think Xinxin Technology is very good, others can design chips that amaze Neon and Korean people."

The chip itself is okay, and the laboratory products of Koryo and Neon can also achieve a frequency of 0.13 microns and 500MHz, but it is too difficult to achieve large-scale commercialization.

Including the new core lithography machine is also very powerful, it can understand Nikon's technology thoroughly, and even be better than Nikon in some aspects, which is really difficult.

Engineer Hayashi is the most technically skilled I've ever met, and he's even more powerful than the best engineer I've ever seen when I went to study at Toshiba. ”

Xiao Zhang opened his mouth slightly: "How powerful is that?" ”

Master Zhao can be regarded as witnessing the process of semiconductor companies invested at the national level from Huajing to Huahong.

When he first entered Huajing, he was sent to Neon to study because of his high enough education. He was the youngest of a group of engineers who went to study at Neon at the time.

At that time, they went to Toshiba, and during the days of studying at Toshiba, they could only read but not remember, they could not take any notes, they could only rely on their brains to remember.

It is precisely because of this that the opportunity to study in Neon will be Master Zhao's turn: he is highly educated and young, and his memory is at its peak.

Master Zhao said: "I don't know, anyway, it's much better than me, and I think that the technical level is not much different from the engineer who taught me back then." But I still can't see how high Engineer Lin's level is, I just know that it is very high. ”

Xiao Zhang said: "That's not it, almost all of the experienced engineers of Xinxin Technology are from Silicon Valley, and they have very high requirements for recruiting people from China, and the school recruitment is relatively better.

I have high school classmates in Xinxin, Huaguo engineers are doing edge projects, and the chip designs you just mentioned are all done by engineers in Silicon Valley. Chip design is inherently a weakness in China, and it is not easy for Jiaotong University to achieve this level. ”

Xiao Zhang is a native of Shenhai, although he is in the Second Polytechnic University, there is no shortage of classmates from Jiaotong University and Fudan.

Master Zhao originally wanted to refute two sentences, as if he remembered something, and changed the topic with a smile: "It is indeed possible to design a chip and then hand it over to Huahong to OEM, after all, we are currently the only chip manufacturing enterprise in China that can undertake large-scale production capacity."

But if you don't add Huahong NEC, just us, the production capacity is only 10,000 pieces per month. For the volume of Xinxin Semiconductor, it is far from enough. ”

Xiao Zhang said: "It would be good if Xinxin Technology could buy us. ”

Master Zhao seemed to have been hit by something, "Don't say it, it's really possible."

With Zhou Xin's strategic vision and character, he now only lacks chip manufacturing in the upstream and downstream of the entire industrial chain.

Other companies will not try IDM vertical manufacturing, but it does not mean that Zhouxin will not, and it does not mean that Xinxin Technology will not.

If Xinxin Technology wants to acquire the chip production line, then one is us, and the other is Huahong NEC.

Compared with Huahong NEC, we are obviously the best choice without historical problems. ”

Xiao Zhang showed an excited expression: "Is it true?" Xinxin's salary is at least three times higher than ours.

Please, Boss Zhou hurried to buy us. ”

Master Zhao made a silent gesture: "Be quiet."

Afraid that others don't know? That's all just speculation at the moment.

Moreover, the salary of Xinxinkai is high, and the requirements are also high. Moreover, state-owned enterprises become private enterprises, and private enterprises don't care so much, they will fire you.

Young people still take advantage of their youth to learn more skills, so that even if Xinxin Technology wants to acquire our production line, you also have the ability to gain a foothold. ”

Xiao Zhang hurriedly flattered: "I have to rely on Master Zhao, you usually take me more." ”

The matter of cooperating with Huahong is complicated and complicated, and it is simple to say that it is simple, and the progress is very fast after the above words.

After ventilation at the end of 2001, the contract was signed in March 2002.

Hua Hong has built the latest 8-inch production line and the 8-inch production line under construction to package and put into the newly established Xinxin (Huahong) chip manufacturing company.

Huahong only has the right to dividends and supervision, and has no decision-making power and control.

The cooperation between Huahong and Xinxin Technology has been hyped as a model for the reform of technology-based state-owned enterprises.

"Master Lin, I didn't expect us to be colleagues." After the establishment of Xinxin (Huahong), Lin Benjian ran more diligently.

He knows that since Xinxin Technology has started to do chip manufacturing business, the manufacturing business of Xinxin Technology will definitely use a large number of Xinxin lithography machines.

There wasn't much time left for him to adjust to the test-question questions.

Lin Benjian and Master Zhao are very familiar: "Yes, the follow-up development of Xinxin Technology still needs our joint efforts."

I still feel that our lithography machine is not stable enough, and there will still be some problems in the process of throughput.

When I asked you before, you always said no problem, no problem.

Now that we're a family, you can say something real.

I know you've been using Nikon's lithography machines all along, and the new chip lithography machine is also Nikon's I Line lithography technology.

What is the difference between our lithography machine and Nikon's? ”

Master Zhao thought for a while and then said, "Master Lin, you are stronger than me in technology, and the lithography machine also belongs to your field, and I am just a front-line worker."

I'm going to talk about my opinion from my point of view, but I've always thought that Nikon was on the wrong track.

So if you buy Nikon's technology and try to follow Nikon's path, you're making a mistake on top of a mistake.

It's just my personal opinion, and it's a feeling that Nikon is the number one player in the field of lithography machines, and when I say that, it seems like I'm a little overwhelmed.

I've always thought so.

Including you just asked me, I didn't want to talk about it, but I still want to give you a little inspiration.

Whether it is Nikon or Xinxin's lithography machine, the most critical problem is that the yield rate is too much pursued.

The yield rate is very important, but it is only one of the indicators, and it is enough to achieve a yield rate of more than 95%, and there is no need to pursue the limit.

Nikon's technical route is to insist on pursuing a 100% yield rate of mature processes, which is unrealistic, and even if it does, it will cause problems in many places."

Master Zhao's words made Lin Benjian think of why Neon pursues a 100% yield rate, because Neon is a conservative country, and Japanese-style enterprise management pays attention to quality first.

The corporate culture determines that they must constantly pursue the yield rate.

Chip technologySometimes technical advantages are more important than quality.

In the early years, Neon's Nikon and Canon were able to beat America's GCA and occupy the top two positions in the field of lithography machines, because the technology was not as difficult as it is now.

I can take care of both ends, both and both, both technological breakthroughs and quality management, and the pursuit of yield.

With the development of technology, technology research and development is becoming more and more difficult, and for enterprises, especially technologies like lithography machines, it is impossible to do both and at the same time.

If you want to iterate quickly, you will have to give up the yield rate.

(End of chapter)