Zhu Song continued: "There are a lot of forests and trees near the Songhua River that have become mature, and the minister once sent people to extend to the north to investigate, all the way to Nuergandusi, the whole large area is a very lush forest, and it is a primeval forest!" ”

"It is said that this large forest has been left in the Yaoshun period, and if you want to build a shipyard, this is an excellent location, the timber can be obtained locally, and it is close to the river, which can extend from the Songhua River to the east into the sea, and the built ships can go down the East China Sea to Jingshi."

Hearing this, Zhu Di looked at the Songhua River pointed by Zhu Song, which was not far from Nuergandusi.

"Although I have never been to this place, when I was in Beiping before, I once sent scouts to draw a map of Liaodong and some of the nearby grasslands, and the people who came back said that the trees there were dense and tall, and they were good timber."

"I can't have only one shipyard in a big country! Well, according to your method, first use the Longjiang Shipyard to build a batch of treasure ships, and then find a suitable place to open a shipyard near the Songhua River south of Nuergandusi. ”

"You have solved another big problem for me, and with your support, I can let the treasure ship of the Ming Dynasty travel all over the world!"

Zhu Song arched his hand and said: "It's just the duty of the minister!" ”

Zhu Song breathed a sigh of relief when he saw that Zhu Di had once again ignited his confidence in forming a treasure fleet, and Zheng He in history must not go to the West without it.

From Zhu Di's point of view, Zheng He went to the West to promote national prestige, and from Zhu Song's point of view, Zheng He went to the West to effectively carry out maritime trade.

As long as the Ming Dynasty carried out equal trade with so many countries, it was absolutely effective to effectively promote the commercial exchanges between the Ming Dynasty and these countries, and it could promote the germination and development of the commodity economy.

Not only that, Zhu Song, as a person who traveled to the Ming Dynasty in later generations, knew that the spread of culture was also useful and of far-reaching significance.

Zheng He's seven voyages to the West can make Confucian culture and ideas spread, and thought and civilization are the real powerful weapons.

However, in history, Zheng He's voyage to the West was not without shortcomings, but also had shortcomings.

For example, in the dignified Celestial Empire, the eight words of "great power" have imprisoned many people's minds.

Especially those civil and military ministers in the imperial court, if they want to let the Ming Dynasty and the surrounding countries carry out friendly and equal trade, they are absolutely unwilling, in their opinion, the Ming Dynasty is unique in the world, how can it be possible to trade with these small feudal countries on an equal footing, this is absolutely not good.

So what they can accept is that these small countries bow down, even if you bring some of the most worthless things in the local area, it doesn't matter, in order to show the material resources of my big country, the Ming Dynasty will give them very rich rewards, and even in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, there are many small countries around, Siam, Java, etc. will use this method to get a lot of wealth from the Ming Dynasty.

There is also the fact that Zheng He's seven trips to the West are all the money in the Ming treasury, which is actually very easy to understand and easy to solve, that is, to use private capital, and the Ming Dynasty can help those private capital merchants to trade overseas through Zheng He's voyage to the West.

In this way, not only can the goods of those private capital be sold and profited, but these private capital uses the ships of the imperial court, and they have to give money to the imperial court, so they will hand over a part of the benefits, and this part of the interests will accumulate into a sea of sand, which is enough to support the Ming Dynasty's voyages again and again.

It's really not good, even if the court is taking out some money decently, it won't use too much, it's better than trying hard to dig out the silver in the treasury, right?

And in this way, after the Ming Dynasty, even if the national strength is weakened, navigation can still be carried out, as long as there is maritime trade, as long as the national strength of the Ming Dynasty does not happen very important or even annihilated, there will be no large, cliff-jumping weakening.

Thinking of this, Zhu Song was about to talk to Zhu Di about his thoughts, but suddenly thought that Zhu Di was also the son of an honest emperor, and he was an absolute upper class, and the businessman was the last first-class school among the three religions and nine streams.

Maybe Zhu Di won't agree with Zhu Song's idea, but Zhu Song must also say it.

"The emperor just said that the court wants to do several major things, and the minister thinks that they are very necessary, but in fact, these major things do not necessarily require the court to take money."

Zhu Di asked puzzledly, "What do you mean?" Who will do these things for us if the court doesn't give us money? Do you have to rely on those rich businessmen in the people? Let them take the money, that is equivalent to killing them, this is not a good thing. ”

Zhu Song laughed: "Of course, the emperor is not so simple, it is understandable for businessmen to pursue profits, but if you want them to hand over the silver honestly, it is actually very simple, the role of the existence of the Daming treasure fleet can not only promote the prestige of my Ming Dynasty, but also spread the thoughts of my Ming Dynasty, as well as the culture of my Ming Dynasty. ”

"As for the second, it is the country's finances, the Ming Dynasty set up a treasure fleet, and the treasure fleet can also create maritime trade when it sails into the sea, just like the Silk Road back then, since it wants to open trade, then there must be trading, and the imperial court naturally wants to take the lion's share, but private merchants can also trade."

"Of course, the most important thing is the equal trade between private merchants and merchants from other countries, as well as the equal trade between my Ming Dynasty and other countries!"

When Zhu Di heard about any equal trade, he immediately waved his hand.

"I am equal to them, I am a big country, what do I want? Why is this still alive and going? They are going to come to Beijing to pay tribute to me, and I still have to negotiate equality with them? ”

Zhu Song explained unhurriedly: "Of course, there is no equality between countries, what is equal is the mutual trade between the two sides in exchange for goods, or in exchange for gold and silver. ”

"Your Majesty, why is Jiangnan rich? The land south of the Yangtze River is not fertile, and even taking Zhejiang as an example, the whole province of Zhejiang is seven points of mountains, two points of water, and one point of fields! The real attachment of Jiangnan lies not in farming, not in growing grain, but in business and trade. ”

"The sage thinks that merchants do not create commodities, but a series of things that can be bought and sold, such as grain, and that they are speculative and deceitful, which is not the case at all in the eyes of the minister."