Chapter 211: Super bold proposal, Cao Yang's tongue fights the group of Confucians
No single manufacturer is responsible for the production of all the parts of the engine.
There is a specialization in the art industry, and some small parts look simple, but the production process is very complicated.
For example, valve springs and spark plugs are not very valuable, but the production is quite complicated.
If you do it all yourself, it's obviously unrealistic.
As long as the overall layout of the engine is designed by itself, non-core parts can be purchased completely.
Whether it is a domestic manufacturer or an international parts giant, they are still willing to provide parts in this regard.
Of course, if you have to use parts from Bosch and Denso, the price will definitely be more expensive.
So in terms of large items, Cao Yang is ready to arrange Nanshan's own production.
"Mr. Liang is reasonable, we in Nanshan are willing to provide engines for F6 and go all out to promote the engine project in the next year."
As soon as Cao Yang said this, even if Ji Hua and Pan Jinxing had opinions, it was difficult to say anything.
You can't tear down the boss in front of the customer, right?
No matter how low the emotional intelligence is, it will not be so low.
"Mr. Cao, Nanshan has been able to produce the world's leading gearbox, and I believe that it will also be able to produce the world's leading engine."
"I can promise that in the future, the engine and transmission of the F6 model will always be purchased from Nanshan."
"Of course, after all, the price of our F6 cannot be compared with the Accord, so the cost is also supported by Nanshan."
Wang Fu was relieved to see that Cao Yang agreed to take the order.
However, he is also a very chicken thief limited to the cooperation of the F6 model.
Other models are not cooperative, and he doesn't want to commit to it now.
After all, if BYD wants to build a car, it will definitely produce its own engine in the future.
In terms of models, there will be no F6 alone.
Cao Yang didn't have much of an opinion on this.
But any car company that has a little pursuit cannot always buy engines from outside.
After all, in the era of traditional automobiles, the engine is the most important component of a car.
There is no one of them.
For example, Yangcheng Honda claims to buy an engine and send a car.
It fully illustrates the importance of the engine and the high level of the engine.
"Nanshan's products have always been competitive in terms of QCD, please rest assured that Mr. Wang is in this regard."
"However, you were working on the 2.4-liter inline-four-cylinder naturally aspirated engine used on the Accord, so I have some new ideas in this regard."
As soon as Cao Yang said this, Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing looked at him with great interest.
It's good to have an idea.
I'm afraid that Nanshan has no ideas.
"Mr. Cao, the turbocharged engine uses exhaust gas to push the pump wheel to high-speed autobiography, driving the coaxial turbine to rotate at high speed, because the turbine has a certain inertia, therefore, theoretically there is a certain hysteresis, of course, now the general use of small inertia turbo, this hysteresis phenomenon is not obvious, however, in terms of power response, it is still necessary to slow down half a beat, lightly pedal without heavy pedaling."
"There seems to be no solution to this problem."
"Will it become a point of complaint for consumers and competitors in the future?"
Although he was already moved, Liang Chuanqing was still a little worried.
"Mr. Liang's statement is actually that many people say that the acceleration curve of the naturally aspirated engine is linear, and the turbocharging is curved, so the turbo has a lag at low rpm."
"Actually, naturally aspirated engines are not linear. At high rpm, the self-aspirated engine has poor air intake effect, and the solution to the problem is to use variable valve timing and lift technology to increase the valve opening time at high rpm, and the lift is to increase the opening area to continue to increase the air intake. ”
"Such as Honda's VTEC, Nissan VVEL, etc.? In fact, when the engine speed is pulled to more than 5500 rpm and the lift is turned on, the feeling is abrupt and like a chicken blood, is this called linear and smooth? ”
"Turbocharged engines are less effective at low speeds, but self-priming engines are less effective at high speeds."
"When the time comes, everyone will be."
"A lot of times, turbo lag is due to the engine and transmission not being properly matched, and the slow start and frequent setbacks due to transmission problems."
"This aspect is Nanshan's advantage, after all, our gearbox is produced in-house."
"The concept of the evolution of the internal combustion engine is to be smaller, lower revs, lower displacement, less weight, and more power."
"I've heard that Volkswagen's next-generation model will use turbocharged engines on a large scale."
"GM is also preparing to introduce more turbocharged engines in the future."
"That is, the car companies of the Dongying system will move a little slower in this regard."
When Cao Yang said this, Liang Chuanqing did not refute it again.
After all, people stand at a higher height.
"Mr. Cao, since Nanshan is confident that he will do a good job in turbocharged engines, then our future F6 models will be turbocharged."
Wang Fu is also a very courageous person.
Cao Yang had already said it so thoroughly, there was no reason for him to insist on using a naturally aspirated engine.
Even he felt that it was too timely to come to Nanshan today.
In the future, the direction of the engine that BYD itself is researching will need to be changed.
"Mr. Cao, the 1.5T turbocharged engine can certainly meet the needs of F6, but now each model generally has two displacement engines for consumers to choose."
"This is also an important means to open up the price difference between different configurations."
"What do you think about this?"
Now that the general direction has been set, Liang Chuanqing naturally began to consider some more specific issues.
"This is also easy to do, we can launch a low-power version of the 1.5T engine and a high-power version of the 1.5T."
"This is the direction of the first step, and if there are other models that need to be launched in the future, we can consider reviewing the 2.0T and 1.0T versions."
"As long as there is a mature and reliable 1.5T engine, it will not be so difficult to study other displacements."
Liang Chuanqing's question, Cao Yang immediately gave an answer.
There are already so many solutions used by OEMs in later generations, and he has nothing to worry about.
Of course, we can review the hybrid version and the like in the future, so I won't rush to say it now.
After all, it was only 2003, and the hybrid market was far from exploding.
One step ahead is a genius, and two steps ahead may mean that people will think you are crazy.
"Mr. Wang, since we have talked about the next engine research project, I will also briefly share some of BYD's expectations for the engine."
Liang Chuanqing's words were quite polite.
After all, it is now my own side that takes the initiative to seek cooperation.
And Nanshan also agreed very strongly.
Naturally, they can't have the attitude of Party A's father.
"If Mr. Liang has any requirements, just mention them."
"I still say the same thing, as long as Nanshan can do it, we will fully cooperate."
"If Nanshan can't do it now, I will try my best to create conditions to do it."
The Nanshan engine project has just been launched, and there is a model equipped with it, which is also a good thing for Cao Yang.
After all, it takes time to develop an engine, and it takes time for the OEM to verify whether your engine is suitable for my model.
If you can't conduct a simultaneous review at the stage of a new model, it will take more time later.
Nanshan's current turnover has reached 10 billion, and if there is no large number of new parts, it will be difficult to increase rapidly to 20 billion at most.
However, once the engine project officially enters mass production at the end of this year, the power configuration of the engine + gearbox will definitely be favored by more independent brand car companies.
At that time, the turnover will not be 20 billion, and it is not impossible to double it.
After all, Cao Yang is confident that the engine + gearbox researched by Nanshan is better than any independent brand.
Even compared with international auto giants, there is a bit of a gap in quality stability.
The parameters on paper are definitely not bad.
If you take into account that the engines that the international auto giants are now investing in Huaxia are not their most advanced products, then it is not surprising that Nanshan is overtaking others.
"In fact, our requirements are very simple, that is, the output power of the Nanshan 1.5T turbocharged engine cannot be lower than the parameters of the current Accord 2.4L naturally aspirated engine."
"In terms of fuel consumption, it is better to have an advantage of more than 10%."
"Then in terms of cost, we don't compare it with the Accord, at least it can't be higher than the 2.4L naturally aspirated engine sold by Aerospace Mitsubishi."
"As for the quality, I also hope that Nanshan's engine can ensure that there are no obvious problems during the warranty period."
Liang Chuanqing's request is not particularly exaggerated.
In addition to the fuel consumption is additionally proposed today, the other is the original BYD's own internal engine project requirements.
After all, if none of these requirements can be met, then what's the point of researching the engine yourself?
"No problem!"
"These will be the inevitable goals of our engine project, and I will set up an engine research and development team to tackle tough problems in the form of special research."
Cao Yang's words made Ji Hua and Pan Jinxing feel a little surprised.
The big attack?
This is a statement that his boss has never made before.
It seems that the next focus of his boss's work is the research and development of the engine.
However, neither of them said much at this time.
There will definitely be another meeting in Nanshan later, and we can talk about it again at that meeting.
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"Mr. Wang, do you think Nanshan can successfully develop the engine we need?"
"Do you need to keep in touch with Aerospace Mitsubishi at that time, just in case?"
On the way back to the company, Liang Chuanqing and Wang Fu sat in the same car and continued to discuss today's events.
The engine is the most important component assembly in a car, and it cannot be overstated.
To put it mildly, if the engine is a failure, then BYD's F6 is a failure.
"Judging from Nanshan's past performances, they have never disappointed."
"Even the 6AT has such a high technical threshold, they can break through, there is no reason why they can't get the engine."
"Especially in the field of engines, they have successfully researched more than a dozen parts, including ECUs."
"Now it's just a further study of the entire engine assembly, not starting from scratch."
"Personally, I am still more optimistic about Nanshan, but we also have to make the preparations we should have."
"Aerospace Mitsubishi can not be equipped with production vehicles, but as a review plan in the process of promoting new models, it can be carried out."
Although we are strategic partners, it is obviously impossible for Wang Fu to pin all his hopes on Nanshan.
Even if he thinks that Nanshan has a relatively high probability of successful research.
"I also think it's safer to do this, after all, the launch at the end of this year is already the biggest postponement we can accept."
"If Nanshan can deliver the engine smoothly, it will naturally be the best."
"If it really doesn't work, it's not unacceptable to use the engine of Aerospace Mitsubishi to top it first."
Liang Chuanqing's statement, Wang Fu didn't say anything more, but said with emotion: "I didn't understand why Mr. Cao was able to take Nanshan to take off in a short period of time. ”
"Talking to him today, I found out that he is more powerful than everyone else."
Wang Fu came out of the system to start a business, and in less than ten years, he has achieved today's achievements, which is already very successful.
In a way, he is also a darling of the times.
But today, he is better than himself in some places in Caoyang.
"Mr. Wang, are you referring to the turbocharged engine?"
Liang Chuanqing is also a smart person.
It is natural to find the point from today's conversation.
"Yes, who is engaged in turbocharged engines among the domestic independent brands now?"
"Even those Dongying and Koryo companies are still working on the road of naturally aspirated engines, and they have not considered switching to turbocharging at all."
"In such an advanced situation, Mr. Cao was able to make a judgment that the market will change to turbocharging in the future based on the background of the rapid development of China's automobile industry and the situation of the entire oil import, which I admire very much."
"We didn't think about it before, and our first reaction was that it was impossible."
"From the analysis of his mouth, it feels very reasonable."
"It seems that he knows the development direction of China's automobile industry in the future."
"This kind of ability is definitely not possessed by ordinary people, the key is that he also has the ability to promote the development of the company in this area according to his own predictions."
"The future of Nanshan is very worth looking forward to."
When Wang Fu said this, Liang Chuanqing also had a deep understanding.
However, he immediately realized a problem and said: "Mr. Wang, now the engine and gearbox are purchased from Nanshan, and their strength in auto parts is stronger than ours." ”
"If they build their own cars in the future, wouldn't it be even better than what we built?"
"When the time comes, the supply of our engines and gearboxes will be a big problem, right?"
(End of chapter)