Chapter 260: Knowing that there are tigers in the mountains, I prefer to go to the tiger mountains

Advice against the ear is good for action!

The words of the ancestors are absolutely true.

Although Cao Yang, a student, is more just on Xiang Changle's side, he actually didn't come over to take a few classes.

However, in both public and private, Xiang Changle hopes that Nanshan Group can develop better and avoid more pits.

Now Cao Yangming knows that the vehicle-grade chip is a huge pit, but he still wants to continue to jump into the pit.

What Xiang Changle can do is to provide him with some suggestions to avoid pitfalls to the greatest extent.

Don't go it alone to bear the pressure, find a few more partners, that's one of his suggestions.

"Teacher, do you have any specific partner recommendations?"

Now it is not a good business to make money by engaging in chips.

Cao Yang naturally doesn't mind finding a few partners to do it together.

Of course, the premise is that this partner must be reliable, not a pig teammate.

Although Xiang Changle is not an expert in chip design, he can be regarded as half an industry insider, and he obviously knows more about the situation than Cao Yang in this regard.

"When it comes to specific partners, it's really crucial."

"I've heard a lot about Warwick in Shencheng before, and they have cooperated closely with our school in recent years, and they should have accumulated a lot of experience in semiconductors."

"But they were all doing it themselves before, and it's hard to say whether they are willing to cooperate with you."

Xiang Changle immediately said a name that Cao Yang was familiar with.

Warwick.

People are really serious about semiconductors.

Although more than ten years later, they will be targeted because they are too strong.

But in the last decade, it has been a very good partner.

And people have been engaged in semiconductors for many years, and Nanshan used to take a lead, which was a good choice.

"I immediately arranged for someone to contact the people of Warwick Company, and when I went to participate in the National Science and Technology Progress Award before, I had a brief intersection with the people on the other side."

Cao Yang didn't hesitate much, and accepted Xiang Changle's suggestion.

You can "come up" some powerful semiconductor-related technologies, but if you don't have a suitable platform, it is very difficult to implement those technologies.

Warwick's semiconductor division is obviously a very good platform.

It seems that their HiSilicon was founded this year?

If the communication is good, it is possible to become one of HiSilicon's shareholders now.

"In addition, I heard a piece of news, but I don't know if it's reliable or not."

Xiang Changle thought for a while, and said: "It is said that BYD also intends to engage in semiconductors, and they are also Nanshan's partners. ”

"If you do it together, you can also reduce each other's risks."

"I think you can have a good chat with their Mr. Wang."

Xiang Changle reminded him of this, and Cao Yang's heart suddenly brightened.

In later generations, BYD's semiconductor department was also relatively powerful.

More high-end things like IGBT can already be made by yourself.

However, I didn't seem to have heard that BYD also has a semiconductor division before.

It seems that the other party should have started to plan to enter the semiconductor business in the past two years.

"Teacher, your reminder is too timely, BYD is indeed a very good partner."

"They are interested in producing electric vehicles and hybrid models, which require the use of a lot of inverters and other control parts, involving a lot of chips."

"If you want to master these core components and occupy a dominant position in the industry, it is a good choice to engage in semiconductors by yourself."

"I'll go to BYD tomorrow to visit their president Wang and have a good chat with him."

Seeing that Cao Yang completely listened to his suggestions, Xiang Changle was also in a good mood, and said: "There are some teachers in our college who are studying this area, and I will also see if any of them are interested in Nanshan's semiconductor project, whether it is cooperation, or recruiting their graduate students, or asking them to help recommend talents, it should be able to play some role." ”

"That's all I can help you as a teacher."

Xiang Changle naturally hopes that Nanshan Group can get automotive-grade chips.

This is a great thing for him and for Lingnan University of Technology.

……

It's not the first time Cao Yang has gone to BYD.

However, the purpose of this visit is very different from the previous one.

Therefore, when the other party got the topic of discussion that Nanshan Group came to visit, an internal meeting was immediately held.

"Mr. Wang, the other party wants to come over and report to us about the switch of chips used in engines and gearboxes and other parts from Infineon to NXP or Texas Instruments, which is expected, nothing special."

"But in the second theme, it is a bit strange to talk about working with us on semiconductor research and development."

After Zhong Qiang received Nanshan's contact, he reported to Wang Fu as soon as possible.

Although Cao Yang and Wang Fu can also communicate directly, many times if you always skip the people below when you do things, it is actually easy to cause dissatisfaction among the people below.

So for this visit, Cao Yang asked Zeng Tingting to contact Zhong Qiang and coordinate the schedules of the bosses through the ministers of both sides.

"No, it's not strange at all!"

"It's strange how the other party knew so quickly that we wanted to engage in semiconductors."

Wang Fu's answer made Zhong Qiang stunned for a moment, and said: "Mr. Wang, do we BYD also want to develop our own chips?" ”

Obviously, until now, Zhong Qiang didn't know that the company had such an idea.

For the establishment of the semiconductor division, it is still in the communication between Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing, vice president of R&D, and most of the people in the company still don't know.

Whether or not to engage in semiconductors has not yet been officially determined.

In this case, Nanshan smelled the smell and touched it, so Wang Fucai felt a little strange.

"The company is now considering launching electric and hybrid vehicles, which will have a much higher number of semiconductor components such as chips than the current F6."

"So I was discussing with Mr. Liang whether to set up a semiconductor division and produce control parts including components by myself in the future."

"So far, very few people know about it, and they don't know where Nanshan heard about it."

"He wants to discuss cooperation in this area, and I haven't made up my mind yet, so it doesn't hurt to talk about it."

Wang Fu naturally knows very well how difficult it is for him to engage in chips and other things.

So whether to do it or not, he is also a little entangled.

It seems like a good idea to have Nanshan help to share the R&D costs together.

"Nanshan was cheated by Infineon this time, although several other chip manufacturers seem to be willing to sell chips to them, but it must also make Mr. Cao very annoyed."

"Otherwise, the idea of researching chips on my own wouldn't have popped up."

Combined with the information he grasped, Zhong Qiang quickly gave a judgment.

Basically, that's a fact.

"Infineon's cut off the supply of chips to Nanshan can be regarded as a wake-up call for us."

"For the kind of parts that need to be imported completely and cannot find any substitutes in China, we still need to consider developing them ourselves."

"Otherwise, if the company grows and grows in the future, it will be too much of a loss."

Wang Fu was also quite emotional in his heart.

The case of Nanshan Group can be regarded as a warning to everyone.

"Then we will normally agree to their chip switching plan?"

"According to the information learned so far, the chips of NXP and Texas Instruments can meet the requirements, and it is said that the other party's agents are also very active in obtaining orders from Nanshan, and there should be no more supply problems."

Taking this opportunity, Zhong Qiang confirmed with Wang Fu about switching chips for engine, gearbox and other parts.

After all, this is a relatively big change point for BYD.

"I can only agree!"

"In this case, if we don't agree, we will fall into the trap, and it will not be beneficial to anyone at that time."

Wang Fu was very clear and agreed without any hesitation.

Of course, the premise must be that those tests in Nanshan are all fine.

"Then tomorrow Mr. Cao and his entourage will come to visit, and I will call Mr. Liang and them?"

"Call them all!"

"Let's see how Mr. Cao wants to cooperate with us in the semiconductor business!"

"I'm really looking forward to it!"

Thinking of the rapid development of Nanshan Group in recent years, Wang Fu hopes that Cao Yang can bring surprises to himself.

……

"Mr. Cao, it is very expensive and risky to engage in chips, are you sure that Nanshan wants to jump into this pit?"

In a conference room at BYD, Cao Yang brought a group of Nanshan executives to a closed-door meeting with BYD executives.

The little things ahead, naturally, there are no problems.

Everyone communicated smoothly.

Now that we have entered the cooperation of semiconductor projects, the teams on both sides have become much more energetic.

Wang Fu didn't ask Cao Yang how he knew that BYD was going to engage in semiconductors, and it didn't make much sense to ask.

Cao Yang must have his own channels to learn some information.

Although BYD's semiconductor business has not yet been officially launched, it is in progress to communicate with some scientific research institutions.

It's not surprising that Nanshan was able to get some news.

"Mr. Wang, chips, especially vehicle-grade chips, are indeed a big pit, and if you jump in, you may not be able to get up."

"But if no one jumps, the pit will get bigger and bigger, to the point that you won't know how to fill it in the future."

"At present, automotive chips have not received sufficient attention from various giants, and the manufacturing process is not advanced, and many chip giants have set their sights on the chips used in consumer electronics such as computer CPUs."

"We are slowly engaged in some car-gauge chips that are not so difficult, and step by step to improve the localization rate of chips, although the risk is also very high, but it is not impossible to succeed."

"Nanshan now invests 10% of its sales revenue in R&D every year, and half of these R&D expenses will be invested in chip-related research in the future."

"The key equipment of the chip, we are ready to develop it ourselves."

"We are also ready to cooperate with various universities and enterprises to achieve 100% localization of some materials for chips."

"In the initial stage, as long as the chip design work is carried out first, the whole industry chain will be involved within ten years, and finally the production of all automotive-grade chips will be mastered."

"The road is definitely hard, but there is hope."

In the face of Wang Fu's question, Cao Yang gave a very positive answer.

There are many chips used in cars, and it is actually impossible for Nanshan to make all the chips by itself.

Whether it is to cooperate with BYD or Warwick, they all want to get some of these chips.

The remaining key chips are researched by Nanshan himself.

Finally solve the problem that Nanshan's chip is stuck in the neck.

and even finally solved the problem of chips being stuck in the neck of Huaxia's automobile industry.

"I was still a little struggling with whether to set up a semiconductor division."

"After listening to what Mr. Cao said, I don't think I need to worry about it anymore."

"But I just don't know how Mr. Cao, you want to cooperate?"

"There are many types of automotive-grade chips, which ones do you plan to focus on?"

Wang Fu obviously already has the intention of cooperating with Nanshan.

Now the difference in size between the two sides is not very large, and they can be regarded as equal partners.

The key is the strength of Nanshan to develop new technologies, which BYD has seen.

In particular, Nanshan's strength in terms of equipment is unmatched by few domestic companies.

Wang Fu has a deep understanding of this.

"The two parties can jointly set up a semiconductor research company to study the design of the chip first."

"At the beginning, you can start with some simple chips used in audio and meters, or even from PCB boards, and slowly improve, study some main control chips, and then build your own chip factory."

Cao Yang came to talk about cooperation today, and he was very sincere.

Naturally, it doesn't go around in circles at this time.

So I just said my thoughts.

There are a lot of auto-gauge chips, and we will cooperate with BYD to make a batch, cooperate with Huawei to make a batch, and Nanshan will make a batch by itself.

In the end, Cao Yang was confident to solve the problem of the chip's stuck neck.

When the time comes, the demand for chips will rise sharply in the era of new energy vehicles.

The advantages of Nanshan can be further reflected.

Especially when there is a shortage of chips, this advantage is even more critical.

"How much money does Mr. Cao plan to invest first?"

Wang Fu is also a happy person.

After feeling Cao Yang's sincerity, he directly entered the next stage.

"Semiconductor research is a very money-burning industry, and in order to make the employees of the new company more confident, I think the initial investment should be more impactful."

"The company's initial investment is 10 billion, and BYD and Nanshan each take out 500 million, each accounting for half of the shares."

"What do you think of this arrangement?"

When Cao Yang said this, Wang Fu was completely relieved.

It seems that Nanshan really wants to enter the semiconductor industry.

Otherwise, it wouldn't be 500 million as soon as it was shot.

This is 500 million in 2004, and the lethality is still very small.

"Cao is always a cheerful person, so I won't ink anymore!"

"The new company will invest according to this ratio, and both sides will arrange a group of personnel to start forming the company."

"But do you have any suggestions for the company's name?"

Wang Fu seems to have given the right to name it to Cao Yang.

In fact, it wants BYD to occupy an advantageous position.

After all, nine times out of ten, these companies are BYD Nanshan or Nanshan BYD and the like.

If Cao Yang is asked to propose, it is not suitable for him to say "Nanshan BYD", right?

Sure enough, after Cao Yang listened to Wang Fu's words, he didn't hesitate and said, "It's called BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute." ”

"Focus on the function of a research, after all, there will be no direct results in a short period of time, don't put too much pressure on the company's employees."

"Of course, if there are no results in three or five years, we will have to consider a big change."

Seeing Cao Yang so bright, Wang Fu had a lot of smiles on his face, and said: "No problem, I will arrange for Mr. Liang Chuanqing to be in charge of the preparatory work of the BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute, and Mr. Cao from Nanshan will also implement the personnel arrangements as soon as possible." ”

As soon as the company finalized the direction of cooperation, Wang Fu couldn't wait to start the practical work.

"No problem."

"The person in charge of semiconductor research in Nanshan, if there are no accidents, it will be determined the day after tomorrow."

Since Cao Yang wants to engage in semiconductors, he naturally needs to recruit a group of experts to help.

Otherwise, it is really suspicious that he acts as an "expert" every time.

Tool people always want it.

……

Warwick's integrated circuit design center has been around since 1991.

In 1993, the first digital ASIC was successfully developed.

In 1998, the first digital-analog hybrid ASIC was successfully developed

In 2002, the first COT chip was successfully developed.

At the end of 2003, the first 10 million gate ASIC was successfully developed.

It can be said that people have many years of experience in the field of chips.

While the main focus is on ASICs that need to be used a lot on their own, there are a few things that have a common logic.

If the other party is willing to cooperate with him, then Nanshan can still learn a lot.

"Lianbu, you can arrange it, the day after tomorrow, Mr. Wang and his party from Nanshan Group will come over, probably to talk to us about technical cooperation."

Xu Jun is the head of the integrated circuit design center and the deputy general manager of the company.

For the Nanshan Group in Yangcheng, he has naturally heard of it for a long time.

When he went to receive the award, Cao Yang received three awards in one go.

He was very impressed.

In the past two years, although Nanshan's performance has not been so fierce, he has won the third prize of the National Science and Technology Progress Award twice.

That's pretty remarkable.

So he still attaches great importance to Cao Yang taking the initiative to call himself and come over to visit.

"Mr. Xu, Nanshan Group is mainly engaged in auto parts and related equipment, and it doesn't seem to have much intersection with us?"

Even Zhitian has naturally heard of Nanshan Group.

After all, as the leader of private enterprises in Yangcheng, Nanshan Group's turnover exceeded 30 billion yuan in 2003.

It almost surpassed Warwick's 31.7 billion yuan.

And he heard that Nanshan will reach 50 billion in 2004, but this goal is even higher than Warwick.

If it is really achieved, then Nanshan Group will be the largest private enterprise in the entire Lingnan Province.

"I also think it's a little strange, it stands to reason that there is not much intersection between the two of us, and I usually don't pay special attention to the affairs of Nanshan Group, but occasionally I will see some news about them when I go online."

"But their business is so big, maybe it has something to do with us, so let's talk about it first."

Cao Yang did not directly tell Xu Jun on the phone that he wanted to cooperate with Huawei on chips.

After all, Huawei has been engaged in chips for more than ten years, unlike BYD and Nanshan, which only started this year.

When it comes to cooperation rashly, it is estimated that it will be cool directly.

……

"Mr. Cao, are you saying that after I went to Nanshan, I directly served as the deputy general manager of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute, and concurrently served as the director of the semiconductor division of Nanshan Research Institute?"

Lingnan University of Science and Technology, Cao Yang, accompanied by Xiang Changle, came to the office of Zhang Jing, a microelectronics major.

Xiang Changle had already introduced Zhang Jing's situation to Cao Yang before, and the other party also knew the purpose of Cao Yang's visit.

Although some things are not completely finalized, the fact that both parties can meet shows that they are both interesting.

"That's right, yesterday I went to BYD and confirmed with them Mr. Wang about the establishment of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute."

"At that time, the two shareholders' meetings of BYD and Nanshan will each contribute 500 million yuan as the first start-up capital of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute......"

Cao Yang introduced the company's situation to Zhang Jing very seriously.

Although domestic chip products are not very popular, it does not mean that there is no talent in this area.

For example, Zhang Jing in front of him, after graduating from the University of Science and Technology of China, went to the University of California, Berkeley to study for a doctorate, and after graduation, he also worked at AMD for two years, and then came to Lingnan University of Technology under the attraction of the domestic talent introduction plan.

Today, he is the youngest professor in microelectronics.

Xiang Changle has some intersections with him in his work, and he has some understanding of Zhang Jing's situation.

Although Lingnan University of Technology is a top university in Lingnan Province, it is obviously very difficult to achieve much in the field of semiconductors.

After returning to China for a few years, Zhang Jing seemed a little tired of that kind of life.

Especially when I visited the University of California, Berkeley some time ago, it was rumored that the other party had the intention of poaching him to become a lifelong professor.

Therefore, Xiang Changle vigorously recommended it to Cao Yang, and at the same time did a lot of work for Zhang Jing alone.

"The funds needed by the semiconductor industry are very huge, 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Zhang Jing was a little moved.

If Cao Yang is seriously engaged in semiconductors, then the opportunity now is indeed very rare.

"Professor Zhang, 1000000000000000 is just a start-up capital, and it will be re-injected every year in the future!"

"My goal is that one day all the chips on the vehicle can be localized."

"Whether it is produced in BYD Nanshan, or in the semiconductor division of Nanshan Research Institute, or produced by other domestic manufacturers, it is acceptable."

"In addition, the 1 billion yuan is the investment of the joint venture company, and Nanshan itself will invest at least the same amount of money in the semiconductor division every year."

As soon as Cao Yang said this, Xiang Changle next to him couldn't help it a little, and said: "Mr. Cao, that is equivalent to an investment of 10 billion yuan a year, is it too radical?" ”

Although the cowhide blown out can be irresponsible, it is too hurtful.

Xiang Changle obviously didn't want Cao Yang to do such a thing that hurt his character.

"Teacher, Nanshan's turnover this year can hit 500 billion, and the net profit of a year is at least 50 billion."

"If it's just 10000000000000000000000000000000000

"Tomorrow I will go to Warwick to visit the person in charge of their semiconductor division, maybe in addition to BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute and Nanshan Research Institute Semiconductor Division, we will also set up a semiconductor cooperation project with Huawei."

Cao Yang threw a bombshell again.

10 billion a year is not enough?

Is this going to be 1.5 billion?

It's not like this when you have money, right?

"Mr. Cao, Nanshan Group has laid such a big semiconductor business all at once, and I will definitely not be able to rely on it alone."

Zhang Jing was obviously moved.

He felt that if he missed this opportunity, he would regret it for the rest of his life.

Although his skills are very good, in the world, he is better than him, not to mention grabbing a handful, but his hands and feet are absolutely uncountable.

In this case, Cao Yang trusts him so much, and it is also a great opportunity for him.

"This is nature!"

"We have already found a dedicated headhunter, approached researchers from TSMC and Samsung, and are also considering contacting some people from SMIC."

"My idea is that the joint venture company and Nanshan's own semiconductor division should have a research team of more than 100 people at least this year to officially roll out the chip research work!"

As soon as Cao Yang said this, Zhang Jing did not hesitate any longer.

"Mr. Cao, thank you for your trust, I am willing to follow Nanshan Group to witness the development of Huaxia's semiconductor industry."

"I also had some classmates and colleagues in chip companies such as AMD in the United States, and I will also contact them when the time comes, to see if anyone is willing to return to Yangcheng for development."

Zhang Jing soon began to enter the role.

He regards the semiconductor business of the Nanshan Group as his own business.

As long as he can get this business started, he can definitely gain fame and fortune.

"Then it's hard Professor Zhang!"

"In terms of treatment, as long as it is a talent, everything is negotiable!"

Since it has been decided to burn money to engage in chips, the money that should be spent must naturally be willing to be spent.

With the current financial report of Nanshan Group, it is simply a healthy excess.

Various banks are looking for Nanshan and want to ask them to borrow more.

Even the little secretary Mi Ying was forced to be a lobbyist a few times.

However, the current Nanshan is really not bad for money.

Whether it's a gearbox or an engine, the profit margins are not bad.

The inconspicuous Nanshan special steel is a cash cow.

It has only been put into operation for one year, and the production capacity has been 100% utilized.

Don't look at the recession of the entire steel industry, but in terms of high-end special steel products, the annual production capacity of 300,000 tons is nothing at all.

Without exporting, the country can digest it.

Even Lingnan Province consumed six or seven percent.

The cash on the books of Nanshan Group has now exceeded 5 billion for more than ten consecutive months!

(End of chapter)