Chapter 837 Doing everything you can, I almost got caught in the soft underbelly
"Restricting the export of equipment and restricting the export of materials have been used before against other subsidiaries of the Nanshan Group."
"At present, the effect is limited, and it is obvious that this trick cannot be used in Daystar Technology."
"It doesn't seem to be of much use not to let American companies connect with Daystar Technology, after all, Daystar Technology's products basically have nothing to do with the United States now."
John said with a little distress.
At the beginning, he also discussed with Boeing and other companies how to deal with some companies of Nanshan Group, but from the point of view of the results, it was not satisfactory.
"No, in fact, the last trick is very useful, but we didn't strictly enforce it before."
"This time, I'm going to push for a special agency under Congress to push for sanctions against competitors like Daystar Technology that endanger national security."
"You may think that our companies in the United States have very little cooperation with Daystar Technology, and that's because you have overlooked a very important area, and that is the software field."
"In the past, we sanctioned the subsidiaries of Nanshan Group, all of which were for some hardware sanctions, and never considered using software to sanction them."
"But there's a lot to be done in this area."
As soon as Gryfin said this, John immediately realized the importance of industrial software.
Especially in the aerospace sector, the importance of many industrial software is very high.
Not to mention the traditional CAD software that everyone is familiar with, CAE software alone, there are many that can be stuck in the neck of Daystar Technology.
For example, software such as ANSYS, Abaqus and Nastran is a must-use in the aerospace industry for structural analysis, hydrodynamic analysis, thermal analysis and electromagnetic analysis.
These software help engineers predict product performance and optimize design options.
Other PLM (Product Lifecycle Management) software, as well as simulation and simulation software, are also very important.
Although not all of these fields are monopolized by American companies, the United States is definitely the strongest in this area from a global perspective.
In Gryfin's view, Daystar Technology must also use some industrial software produced by American companies.
This time, as long as the relevant departments of the United States go all out to remove the neck of Daystar Technology in the field of industrial software, it will definitely have an unexpected effect.
Even the development of Daystar Technology's Starship and other products will be affected, and the rocket launch for the European Space Agency's Starlink project may also be greatly affected.
The United States is the birthplace of computers, and the software itself was developed based on English.
In this respect, China's strength is definitely much worse than that of the United States.
At least that's what Gryfin thinks.
"The piracy of software over there in Huaxia should be quite serious, if we sanction Daystar Technology in terms of industrial software, can they be cracked by using pirated software?"
John has witnessed many failed sanctions, so this time he also racked his brains to think of all kinds of possible flaws.
"Pirated software is not so easy to use, not to mention that our companies will sue them, just pirated software is easy to leak some information, which will make Daystar hesitate again and again."
"Besides, cracked pirated software may not be fully compatible with the operating system or other software, leading to various problems."
"In addition, the cracked version of the software inevitably lacks official support and updates, making the software vulnerable to emerging threats and security vulnerabilities."
Gryfin thinks that Daystar may use some pirated software in the short term, but that is certainly not a long-term solution.
As long as the United States firmly stuck the line of industrial software, it will definitely limit the development of Daystar Technology.
Even the next step can be launched for all the subsidiaries of Nanshan Group, so that the development of Nanshan Group has completely come to a standstill.
"Most industrial software, which is generally not unique in the world, may have alternative versions in Europe or other countries."
"If we sanction Daystar Technology in terms of industrial software, if they turn to other companies to buy similar software, will the effect of the sanctions be greatly reduced?"
John thought of another place that might have been exploited.
After all, although the United States of America is the strongest industrial software in the world, it is not the only one in the world.
At least most of the industrial software can find some alternatives, at most the level of these alternatives is not so high.
"It's not so easy to replace software, especially since some data is not fully compatible."
"Even if Daystar Technology wants to turn to other companies to buy industrial software, it's not so easy."
"Besides, this time I will also urge the relevant departments to push the companies in Europe to also impose sanctions on Daystar Technology."
As soon as Gryfin finished saying this, John couldn't help but say: "The European Space Agency has just cooperated with Daystar Technology, and Huaxia has just signed a series of cooperation projects with Europe. ”
Although Europe has always been the little brother of the United States, this little brother also has some ideas of his own.
There must be many people who are unhappy to sacrifice the interests of Europe for the sake of the United States.
"There are many types of industrial software, and we don't need to pursue every type of software to completely kill Daystar Technology, as long as we start on a few important software."
"When the time comes, it will definitely bring the development of Daystar Technology to a standstill."
Gryfin had thought it out before talking to John about it.
He has already thought through all aspects of the content in advance.
After chatting with Gryfin for more than an hour, John finally completely regained his confidence, and followed Gryfin to promote special sanctions against Daystar Technology.
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The United States is still moving quite fast.
[Daystar Technology manufactures reconnaissance satellites for North Korea and Persia, and provides technical advice for the development of ballistic missile technology, which seriously violates ......]
[All U.S. companies shall not have any business dealings with Daystar Technology, especially industrial software companies, and shall not provide software to Daystar Technology for use through any direct or indirect means.] 】
[The National Assembly will set up a special committee......
Just a week later, the relevant departments in the United States directly announced the sanctions against Daystar Technology.
Although the main focus is on industrial software, this is actually stronger than any previous one.
In the past, it was more often an indication of the attitude of the United States, but the actual implementation was not so strict.
But this time it's a different story.
Set up a special committee to oversee the implementation of this and be responsible for coordinating the affairs between various departments and enterprises.
This shows that the United States is serious this time.
I am afraid to be serious in everything.
Many people immediately realized the impact of the sanctions.
"Mr. Cao, we have taken a comprehensive inventory of the industrial software used by various departments of Daystar Technology, of which 8 software are developed by companies in the United States, and it is expected that there will be no way to use them normally in the future."
After Zhao Siyu learned the news, he immediately took stock and confirmed the internal situation of Daystar Technology.
Then I went to Cao Yang to report.
This matter has a great impact, but it will not immediately stop the production of Daystar Technology.
Of course, it will definitely have a huge impact on the development of new products of Daystar Technology.
For example, the development of a starship, whether it is part design, various simulations and various tests, all need to use a variety of software.
Some software is written directly by Daystar Technology, but more software is purchased through agents from various companies in Europe and the United States.
Among them, the proportion of American products is still relatively high.
After all, in the field of aerospace, the strength of the United States is still the first in the world.
"We were worried that the United States would take out the industrial software project and sanction us."
"I thought that this day would not come so soon, but I didn't expect the other party to be so eager to see us unlucky."
Nanshan Group acquired Yangcheng Zhongwang two years ago, recruited a large number of personnel from the Department of Mathematics, software engineering and other majors, and also recruited a group of technical personnel from various factories to develop industrial software.
After all, industrial software is more of an industrial product than an IT product.
Although personal computer skills are a must, it is more critical to understand the process and other aspects.
Otherwise, the product you develop will not be very easy to use.
This is also the reason why the threshold for industrial software has always been relatively high.
"The appearance of American people is getting more and more ugly, and as a private enterprise, it is normal for all customers to cooperate with us."
"What else is saying that we are helping North Korea and Persia to develop ballistic missiles is simply nothing."
Zhao Siyu is also more depressed about this sanction, because this time it will indeed have some impact on Daystar Technology.
Even if Yangcheng Zhongwang has developed some software, but in a hurry, Zhao Siyu is actually more worried about directly using all these software within Daystar Technology.
However, Cao Yang's mentality is different from Zhao Siyu's, he knows that the level of industrial software in Yangcheng Zhongwang has reached the point where it can be put into use.
Yangcheng Zhongwang itself has a certain foundation, and then in the past two years, a large number of personnel have been recruited to develop related products.
Coupled with Cao Yang's help from time to time, the progress of research and development is naturally very fast.
Even Du Yulin, the general manager of Yangcheng Zhongwang, could not imagine that the company's industrial software development progress could be so fast and smooth.
He can only attribute it to the fact that the level of technical personnel recruited from other companies in Nanshan Group is too high.
In just two years, some industrial software companies have been on the road for more than ten years, or even decades.
Of course, people have walked for more than ten years, and in fact, most of the time they are only slowly making some supplements, and they are not really constantly updating the software all the time.
Otherwise, no matter how hard you try to catch up, it will not be so easy to catch up.
"What if it's nothing?"
"What if you don't have to?"
"Ten years ago, people would be able to take a bag of laundry detergent and say it's a weapon of mass destruction, and then start a brazen war."
"It's normal for people to come against us now with some kind of evidence that they don't have."
Cao Yang has seen a lot of things that have no bottom line on the American side, so his acceptance ability is much higher.
Of course, being able to accept this fact does not mean that he will have to bear this sanction.
Since you are forcing Nanshan Group to use its own industrial software on a large scale, then start using it.
Looking at the middle of the Yangcheng, if you don't make a sound, it's just a blockbuster!
When the time comes, I will give you an unexpected surprise.
"That's just as well."
"Although this time it is only for Daystar Technology, I think it is likely that the next step will be for all Nanshan enterprises."
"I think companies such as Nanshan Semiconductor and Nanshan Equipment should start using Yangcheng Zhongwang's industrial software as soon as possible."
"Even now, it can be used synchronously with Daystar Technology, and more people can use it to better find some bugs and update and adjust them in time."
"We have a lot of experience and data, and we should be able to complete the industrial software soon."
"However, in the near future, we may have to consider sending a group of people from various companies to Yangcheng to seek support."
"Otherwise, the industrial software developed by them will be used on a large scale, and some of the software will be developed after a new project is established, which requires a lot of manpower."
Although Yangcheng Zhongwang began to enter the industrial software market on a large scale two years ago, after all, it only selected some major software for development, and it is impossible to develop all the industrial software that Nanshan needs to use.
In fact, to a certain extent, it is not necessary to develop all the software yourself.
As long as you get out a few key software, the people outside know that you have the ability to develop this kind of software by yourself, so they don't dare to use the means of getting stuck in the neck easily.
Otherwise, it is equivalent to forcing you to do it yourself, but you still have the strength to do it.
It's just that normally speaking, the cost of doing it yourself will not be lower, and there is no need to do everything yourself.
"There is no problem with this, whether it is Nanshan Automobile Group, Glory Technology Group, or Autohome, there are a large number of programmers who can cooperate with Yangcheng Zhongwang to do some technical development."
"At this stage, we focus on tackling key problems in the industrial software where the United States has the initiative, and the next step is to strive to develop more software that is easy to be stuck."
Regarding Zhao Siyu's proposal, Cao Yang naturally has no opinion.
Even after chatting with Zhao Siyu, they also went to Yangcheng Zhongwang together and communicated in detail with the general manager Du Yulin.
Then the enterprises of the entire Nanshan system began to promote the independence of industrial software.
"Mr. Cao, the United States is making trouble with industrial software, do you have any countermeasures?"
Qian Junfeng on the side of aerospace science and technology is also more worried about the situation on the side of Daystar Technology.
Although the emergence of Daystar Technology has made aerospace technology a little embarrassing on some occasions, more often, it has relieved some of the pressure on aerospace technology.
After all, the level of rockets and other rockets of Daystar Technology can lead the world, which also represents that Huaxia's technology in this area leads the world.
This is definitely a good thing for the development of the entire Chinese aerospace industry.
"Mr. Qian, since the Americans want to card us on industrial software, then we don't use their software."
"I was already worried about this a few years ago, and I started to make arrangements in this area."
"Now I'm just being forced by them to take out some software that was supposed to be promoted step by step and use it directly."
"Mr. Qian, is Aerospace Science and Technology interested in using the software developed by Yangcheng Zhongwang?"
"Although there may be some unaccustomation at the beginning, I guarantee that the final experience will not be worse than that of imported software."
"The most important thing is that after using Yangcheng Zhongwang's software, you don't have to worry about being stuck."
"As for the purchase cost of software, it can be reduced, not to mention the after-sales service experience."
With such a good sales opportunity, Cao Yang will definitely not miss it.
Aerospace Science and Technology Group has a large number of subsidiaries in China, as long as they start to use Yangcheng Zhongwang's software, they can definitely play a very good leading role in the industry.
However, Cao Yang's attitude confused Qian Junfeng.
FeelingsCao Yang is not worried at all that he will be stuck by the United States, and he is still in the mood to sell software to himself.
Is the other party's mentality too good, or can't you see through it yourself?
Qian Junfeng felt a little dizzy.
This situation is completely different from what he imagined.
He also thought about whether to use the resources of aerospace science and technology to help Daystar Technology and circumvent the sanctions this time through joint development and other methods.
Unless American software companies abandon the Chinese market entirely, a solution can always be found.
But he didn't expect Cao Yang to give such a reply.
"Mr. Cao, the threshold for industrial software is relatively high, and it is not something that a few programmers can develop by sitting down."
"If the software is not easy to use, it will lead to the scrapping of the mold of the parts, and even the situation that the parts cannot be assembled together after processing."
"If there is a problem with the results of the relevant thermodynamic analysis, hydrodynamic analysis, etc., it can even directly lead to the failure of our product development."
Qian Junfeng is a knowledgeable person.
Because of this, he is well aware of the importance of industrial software and the viciousness of America's approach.
It can be said that the United States directly does not give Daystar a way to live.
It's just that the other party probably didn't expect that Yangcheng Zhongwang had already prepared in advance.
I just don't know if this preparation is really as good as Cao Yang showed.
"It is indeed the same as what you said, industrial software is very important, so although Yangcheng Zhongwang has developed relevant industrial software before, it has only been in the small-scale trial and improvement of enterprises within the group, and has not been officially promoted."
"Now that the main industrial software has been almost done, it is time for everyone to know that the industrial software has also stood up."
Cao Yang's loud words touched Qian Junfeng a lot.
If someone else had told him about industrial software like this, he would have hung up the phone without wanting to listen.
Huaxia will be stuck in industrial software for so many years, do you really think that no one in China sees the importance of this piece?
That's because I know that industrial software is important, but I can't do it.
In other words, the industrial software is not easy to use, and the cost is much higher.
After all, this line of work is in the market-oriented operation of the industry, if there is no cost advantage, then why bother to do it yourself?
At least most companies have this in mind.
For example, I am a small workshop of dozens of people, producing a few small toys.
In this case, it is very difficult to use genuine software at home, and soon people will have to choose between imported software with low prices and domestic software with high prices, and you don't have to think about it to know how to choose.
Even if the price of domestic software is relatively low, people are reluctant to use it because of the poor experience at the beginning.
It can be said that in the industrial software market, sometimes it is really you who use it for free, and no one may be willing to use it.
The winner-takes-all phenomenon is very obvious in this industry.
"Since the enterprises in the Nanshan system are confident to use the industrial software of Yangcheng Zhongwang, our aerospace science and technology naturally have nothing to hesitate."
"When I go back, I will arrange for someone to connect with Yangcheng Zhongwang and buy a batch of their various software."
"As long as the final use effect can be close to the current software, our related industrial software will be purchased from Yangcheng Zhongwang in the future."
In public and private, Qian Junfeng wants to support super indentation.
So for Cao Yang's sales pitch, he chose to support it without too much entanglement.
After all, strictly speaking, this matter is also good for aerospace science and technology.
Who knows when the relevant departments on the American side are going to take action against the Aerospace Science and Technology Group.
At that time, if you think about Yangcheng Zhongwang, the situation will definitely be completely different.
Qian Junfeng can be regarded as having seen this more thoroughly.
"Thank you for your support!"
"I have personally participated in the use and testing of all kinds of software in Yangcheng Zhongwang, and I will not disappoint you."
Easily getting such a big customer, Cao Yang's mood is still relatively good.
Don't you, the United States, want to make a difference in this area?
Then I'll let you know that this trick doesn't work!
It will even make you steal chickens and rice, and completely lose the industrial software market in China.
(End of chapter)