Chapter 683 - A Research Group Is Really Needed
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Chapter 684: A research group is really needed
If we want to cooperate in development, even if the technology is shared by both parties, it will definitely not be pushed to the numerical computing business department and finished.
Of course, in most cases, the same people must be the last to do the work, but in terms of reception specifications, it must be more important.
You can't just send a salesman away.
But on the other hand, technical cooperation in the sharing of rights also means the sharing of responsibilities, and even considering the gap between the research and development capabilities of the two companies, I am afraid that it is still greater on the side of the Torch Group.
Therefore, it is not like the numerical calculation business, where you can get a list of requirements and start work.
In general, it is necessary to know a little bit about the actual situation.
This is true even if the other party is an enterprise under the system of the Commission of Science and Technology.
Therefore, after thinking about it again, Chang Haonan still decided to take a delaying strategy first:
"Manager Cai, you should also know that our company has not had an in-depth understanding of the shipbuilding industry in the past, if it is just to take on some ordinary business, but the two companies have a great impact on technical cooperation, and they must not be arbitrarily decided, so I will write down this matter for the time being, and then I will send comrades from the office and technical departments to have in-depth contact with you, how about it?"
Cai Honggui originally found out that the French GTT was completely indifferent to the Gas-Transport system, thinking that the dead horse was a live horse doctor, and came to the Torch Group to see if there was a way to break the situation, and naturally knew that the other party, as a second-level state-owned enterprise at the same level as the Hudong Factory, could not sign the contract in a few words.
Although the four major military industrial corporations have completed the reform of de-administration (the aviation industry is still delayed for another year because of the operation of the general manager), the de-administration is not de-organization, and it still has to be subject to the jurisdiction and supervision of the higher authorities.
In other words, doing business between state-owned enterprises is often more troublesome than between private enterprises.
This time, I was able to meet Chang Haonan himself, and I also explained the ins and outs of the whole thing clearly, which was already beyond expectations.
At the moment, he immediately nodded in agreement:
"What Mr. Chang said is reasonable, and the matter of technical cooperation really needs to be cautious."
"After I go back this time, I will sort out the technical information related to the Gas-Transport system and LNG ship manufacturing, and then let someone send it over, in addition, if Mr. Chang wants to further investigate the situation of our factory, you are also welcome to visit and guide at any time......
Compared with aviation manufacturing, shipbuilding is relatively less sensitive except for some special products, such as nuclear submarines or surface nuclear power plants.
Therefore, in the area of technology patents, it is indeed "protection for disclosure" to a certain extent.
Even if the relevant information of the Gas-Transport system is not given by the Hudong plant, Chang Haonan wants to check it here, and it takes a little effort to find it.
It's just that if you don't buy a license, you can't use it for profit.
Cai Honggui wants to give it now, but it is not a leak of trade secrets.
Of course, that's what you say, but LNG ships are such complex system engineering, and the words "relevant technical data" are easy to say, in fact, if they are converted into physical form, they are afraid that they will be loaded by trucks, and they must be the first four and eight back.
Now that the two sides are only in initial contact, others have made such a statement, and it can indeed be seen that they are very sincere.
After all, even public content has unique value after being systematically organized.
Otherwise, there would be no such thing as open source cyber intelligence.
"You and I are at the same level in terms of organizational relationships, and we are not in the same system, so we can't talk about visiting and guiding."
Chang Haonan has now passed the stage of being embarrassed or fluttering about this kind of blowing and patting, and immediately waved his hand and replied:
"In addition, my personal schedule in the last month or two is relatively tight, and I may let the following technical backbones do early contact, but these will be decided in detail when the time comes......"
"Anyway, I would like to thank Mr. Chang in advance and wish our cooperation a smooth ......"
"You're welcome......
Although he only received Chang Haonan's verbal promise, when Cai Honggui left, the spirit of the whole person became different.
Outside the Torch Group, a young man with a windbreaker in his hand saw Cai Honggui coming out, and hurriedly took two steps forward and draped his clothes on the latter.
"Master, ...... you are?"
When he just came out of the conference room, he saw that Cai Honggui was as old as twenty years old, but only half an hour or so had passed, and he seemed to be young again......
"I just talked to Mr. Chang of the Torch Group."
With the help of his apprentice, Cai Honggui tucked his arms into his sleeves and then adjusted the neckline of his coat.
He was born as a welder in his early years, and because he worked in a high-salt, high-humidity and low-temperature environment for a long time, his arthritis was quite serious, especially in winter, and it was difficult to wear a coat.
After completing this series of actions, he took out his gloves from his pocket and put them on, as he continued:
"Mr. Chang said that after a while, he will send technicians to our factory to check the situation, and if there is no problem, you can consider working with us to continue to promote the development of Gas-Transport system LNG ships!"
"Really?"
The apprentice next to him was overjoyed when he heard the news, but he only lasted for a moment, and soon returned to his worried appearance:
"But...... Even if the Gas-Transport system is successful, it still seems difficult to compete with others compared to the Technigaz system, which requires a larger and heavier ship to load the same volume of LNG......
Cai Honggui almost rolled his eyes when he heard this, and he raised his hand to knock on the apprentice's head:
"If it weren't for the quality problems of that group of Japanese companies last year, we wouldn't even have a chance to enter the game now."
"Now being able to stand on the same track as others is something that those of us who didn't dare to think about in the past, why are you still dissatisfied?"
“……”
After all, the apprentice is young and reacts quickly, and Cai Honggui doesn't really intend to fight, so he easily dodges it with just a horizontal jump, and then covers his head and says to his master:
"I mean, can we also consider building ships with Technigaz systems?"
Cai Honggui's face froze, and after bowing his head and hesitating for a moment, he shook his head:
"GTT itself is not involved in the production of ships, so it is not difficult to buy the patent for the Technigaz system, as long as it costs money."
"However, the technical route of the cargo tank system is closely related to the structure, power and safety design of the whole ship, and the Koreans came into contact with the Technigaz system several years before us, and now they have obtained a lot of patents in these fields, and if we change the technical route to pursue it now, we will definitely be limited in this area......
When it came to this, the apprentice naturally understood-
GTT will sell the patent of the cargo tank to Hudong Shipyard, because everyone is in different positions in the industrial chain, and it is a difference between making money together, which is nothing more than making big and making small money.
But between Samsung Shipbuilding and Hudong Shipbuilding, it is a naked niche, not to say that you live or die, at least it is a competitive relationship.
It is simply impossible to license key patents in one's possession to major competitors.
Therefore, the road of the Technigaz system is basically impassable for Huaxia, which has not taken the lead.
"That'...... Can we only count on the Torch Group to cooperate with us? ”
"In a short period of time, we can only do this, in all fairness, we used to be technology catch-ups, and in the core technology research and development, the level is indeed not as good as others......"
"But...... There's nothing to be done about the torch side, after all, they don't seem to have been exposed to shipbuilding before......"
"Hmm...... That being said, I heard from my colleagues in Hangzhou Tooth Factory that Mr. Chang had never been in contact with the machinery manufacturing industry before, but the first time he shot was to be in charge of Jiangzhong's 70,000-ton forging press, and it seems that the progress is going quite smoothly......"
“……”
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On the other side, after Chang Haonan sent Cai Honggui out of the door, he picked up the phone and contacted Liu Hongbo.
"Professor Liu, do we have any spare manpower in our numerical computing business department? I have a shipbuilding business cooperation that we haven't been in contact with in the past, and I need a few people to understand the situation......"
He got straight to the point.
This question was directly asked to the other side of the question, and after a long period of silence, Liu Hongbo's bitter voice came from the other end of the phone:
"My junior leader, now the orders of the numerical calculation business department have been scheduled for March next year, we can't wait for one person to be used for three, how can there be idle manpower?"
"And since it's a business that I haven't been in contact with before, it should be handed over to the R&D department first, right, our business department is only in charge of the application level in principle......
"Hiss......"
Chang Haonan thought about it carefully and felt that it seemed to make sense.
He did ask Liu Hongbo to be in charge of the helicopter design business before, but that relied on Professor Liu's personal ability.
However, the main business of the Torch Group is program update and maintenance after all, and the so-called R&D department is actually the "State Key Laboratory of Numerical Simulation and Data Analysis" at the beginning, which has not even changed its name until now.
At present, the official version of the TORCH Multiphysics software has just been released, and the office there is lit 24 hours a day, and he doesn't even need to make a phone call, so he knows that he is probably busy......
“……”
Chang Haonan suddenly felt that he might really need a research group of his own......
(End of chapter)