As soon as Zhan Hui finished speaking, they knew in their hearts that even if there was a secretary of the Ministry of Industry, Yan Zhen was straightforward, and said: "The cabinet is a place to deal with the affairs of the imperial court, and the stakes are big, and they need to have a lot of experience, and they must not be sloppy."

Now that His Majesty is the Prime Minister of the military affairs, he has been working hard all night, and it is a great honor for those of us who are courtiers to share the worries of His Majesty. The Sixth Ministry has always been good at handling these complicated affairs, and now the selection of officials from the Six Ministries into the Cabinet Department is justified. ”

The polite words that Fu Youde, the Duke of Yingguo, said before, now have a role, which can be regarded as blocking some of the sarcastic words of the six Shangshu in disguise.

Yan Zhenzhi originally planned to directly say that the generals were not knowledgeable enough and their level was not good, but after the previous confrontation, Fu Youde had already stated it in advance, and now that he mentions it, that is, he reached out to hit the smiling person, which was unseemly.

Therefore, he changed his statement, since the six ministries are good at dealing with these, why can't they all be officials of the six ministries?

There is really nothing to dispute about such a legitimate thing, you generals should have resigned as soon as possible, what are you arguing about?

Although Yan Zhen's straightforward words were not difficult to hear, there was an inexplicable sense of superiority between the conversations, and Wang Bi, the Marquis of Dingyuan, answered the words and retorted: "According to Lord Yan's statement, the troubles in the southeast, the remnants of Hu Yuan in the north, and the demons in various places will all be caused by your six departments, why do we guys need to go into battle?" Isn't there a military department among the six departments, just do something like this, the officials of the military department roll up their sleeves and rush up, we are also behind, so let's take a look at the ability of your adults. ”

Shen Wei, the secretary of the military department, frowned and said: "Commanding the army has always been a matter under the jurisdiction of the Governor's Office of the Five Armies, when did it come under the jurisdiction of the Sixth Army?" Now that the discussion is about the cabinet, why should the Marquis of Dingyuan be involved in these? ”

"Since Lord Shen knows that the Governor's Mansion of the Five Armies also needs to participate in military and political affairs, why is there any personnel tossing here now? Could it be that you adults think that there are only civil ministers and no generals in the great tomorrow? Or is it that this military war can already be put down, and you don't have to worry about him anymore? ”

Wang Bi came out to talk about this matter, which has a lot to do with Zhu Yuanzhang's military and political institutions.

The Governor's Office of the Five Armies is independent of the Six Ministries, but it is closely related to the Ministry of War, and the relationship between the two is probably mutually reinforcing.

The military department has the power to appoint and dismiss generals, promote and train the army in the army, but it cannot command the army to fight wars.

Although the Governor's Office of the Five Armed Forces has the functions of commanding the troops, managing the tuntian, managing the military ranks, and electing generals, the Governor's Office of the Five Armed Forces does not have the power to dispatch troops.

In this way, Zhu Yuanzhang firmly controlled the military power in his own hands by controlling the military department.

At the same time, it also avoided the situation that the combat effectiveness of the army would decline because of the military commanders.

Just as Wang Bi said, as an independent institution, the Governor's Office of the Five Armed Forces has the right to participate in the discussion of military and political affairs.

He skillfully grasped the loopholes in his words and used the existing system to initiate death questioning, which even Zhan Hui found quite tricky.

Zhan Huiwan didn't expect that these reckless men also began to play tricks, which was really very different from their usual behavior, and he realized that it was impossible to prevent these guys from participating in the cabinet department.

If you really want to stop it, it is clearly provoking the political system created by Zhu Yuanzhang, this kind of death-defying behavior, even if they dare to do it, they don't dare to do it.

Therefore, Zhan Hui had no choice but to say: "We are not saying that we will not allow military generals to participate in the cabinet department, but in terms of the number of personnel, we must have a suitable charter, right?" ”

Liangguo Gong Lanyu found an opportunity and interjected: "It's not easy, five or five points, you can't have more of us than we have, it's not fair." ”

Shen Wei retorted: "If there is peace today, the people's minds are determined, and the war cannot be talked about lightly, and most of the things that the cabinet has to deal with are civil affairs and people's livelihood, which need to be done by special people." In "Han Feizi", "The Foreign Prince Says the Upper Left", and in "Warring States Policy", "Yibian Que Sees King Qin Wu", all illustrate this truth, the past does not forget the teacher of the future, and you can know the gains and losses by taking history as a mirror! ”

"The sage once said: I am not born to know, I am ancient, and I am keen to seek. When we followed His Majesty to fight in the south and the north, didn't we all know a lot of big characters, and we didn't even know how to arrange troops, and we didn't learn everything later?

I think that Your Majesty is willing to give us this opportunity, because he values us and wants us to learn how to govern the country with all of you. When people are old and their hearts are settled, they can learn more things, otherwise an old guy like me will really go into the coffin. ”

Under the banner of learning, Fu Youde first brought out the words of the sage, and then brought out the experience of his early years, which made Zhan Hui and others feel troubled.

This old guy talks about His Majesty's early years at every turn, and they have no excuse if they want to refute it, if they really want to say something disrespectful, isn't that slandering Your Majesty? Who is so bold?

Zhan Hui was depressed in his heart, originally thinking about this battle of tongues, their group of Wenchen still had a great advantage.

I didn't expect that the other side would bring out the saint at every turn, and talk about His Majesty at every turn, or directly take out the existing military and political system to talk about things.

Of these three, none of them can be refuted by Zhan Hui and the others, it is equivalent to the rhetoric on the other side, and they can only guard against it in embarrassment.

After such a quarrel, the ministers were rarely defeated, and the personnel of this cabinet department were decided like this, it was really as Lan Yu said, five or five points.

This result was beyond Zhu Gaochi's expectations, he thought that there could be a seven-three opening, all of which were extraordinarily played by the generals, but he didn't expect Ying Guogong to have such a skill, and he was surprised by the benefit of his tongue.

After everything was done, Zhu Gaochi took Zhu Yuanzhang to meet Zhu Yuanzhang, and after he nodded, he told everything that happened before.

He sat at Zhu Yuanzhang's feet, a little puzzled, and said, "Grandpa Huang, this time the ministers were actually deflated, which really surprised the grandson." ”

Zhu Yuanzhang put down the song and said with a smile: "Those old guys are smart, they will carry us out at every turn, Zhan Hui, do they dare to talk?" ”

"What does Grandpa Huang mean is that this discussion seems to be a battle between the generals and the ministers, but it is actually a battle between you and the ministers?"

Zhu Gaochi was thoughtful, his eyes lit up, and he said, "So, this is the credit of the imperial grandfather!" ”

"Gao Chi, don't underestimate these courtiers, all of them are ghosts and ghosts, if you don't have the ability, they will dare to bare their teeth at you. Fu Youde, the old guy, also knows this, so he frequently uses our name to press Zhan Hui and them, otherwise this matter will be noisy. ”

"I heard Ying Guogong also mention the ...... of the saint"

"The saint is useless, he has been dead for thousands of years, and he is just a tattered talisman to talk about things. These courtiers don't have a chance, if they really have a chance, they can't wait for the saint to be themselves.

Gao Chi, you have to understand that we are not relying on some bullshit saint to fight the world and sit in the world, but real swords and guns, which are fought out of blood and fire!

We are sitting in the world now, then this saint is our saint, if Chen Youliang is sitting in the world, it is the saint of his family.

You are very smart and kind, but you must not be pedantic, learn from your father, and have a thick face and a black heart. ”

Zhu Gaochi scratched his head when he heard this, smiled innocently, and said, "Grandson understands." ”

As he spoke, Zhu Gaochi remembered that the cabinet had not yet been officially named, so he asked: "Grandpa Huang, now that the constitution of the cabinet has come down, what do you think?" ”

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