For Wang Ye's statement, Sattler deeply agreed.

The time has come to noon, after Wang Ye and Sartler have lunch, Sartler went back to have a meeting with his entourage, because he will return to Yanjing tomorrow, and there will be about two days of meetings in the future, and finally they will leave for Saudi Arabia to end the visit.

At two o'clock in the afternoon, Sattaler and his team went to a meeting, and Wang Ye was in his office and met the two leaders who had just finished taking a nap.

"What's wrong? Are you a mysterious boy? ”

"Is there something big of a deal? Missile boats? Missile boats don't need this, right? ”

After sitting down, the old man Zhou Jinlie said with a smile, while the old man Wei Qingshan looked solemn and seemed to smell a different meaning.

Wang Ye's office, in the entire office building, belongs to the area with the highest degree of secrecy under normal circumstances, except for the duty office next door, diagonally up and down, left and right, those rooms are all kinds of data rooms, that is, there will be no one at all normally, and you need to make a report when you go in.

And these plans, to a certain extent, put an end to the possibility of overhearing voices in the rooms on the upper and lower floors, not to mention that just half an hour ago, Wang Ye ordered Bai Tingyu to start the process of supreme secrecy, and the entire office was strictly inspected by the young people with inch heads, and everyone was temporarily asked to leave.

Subsequently, Wang Ye personally made tea for the two leaders, then sat down and said:

"There are indeed two things that I want to report to the leader."

"These two things may have something to do with missile boats, but that's not the point."

Hearing Wang Ye say this, the expressions of the two leaders, Wei Qingshan and Zhou Jinlie, became serious, and then Wang Ye continued to explain:

"The first thing is about our military industrial system."

"Didn't we test our own 130 mm caliber tank guns some time ago? Originally, I didn't think that this project should have entered the testing process so quickly, for example, in terms of artillery shells, we still had some minor problems at that time, and it might take another month to solve them. ”

"How did you get it done so quickly?"

"This matter has to start from the end of December, we led the Luqi Province Provincial Industrial Chain Conference, which was mainly from various state-owned factories, and Director Liang of the Provincial Defense Office brought me seven special guests, who are the directors of other third-line factories in Luqi Province that are being converted from military to civilian."

"These factory directors, after getting the order to convert military to civilian, are more melancholy, hoping to come to me to learn from experience, and finally I gave them a lot of ideas, and at the same time we have reached a 'cooperative alliance', mainly referring to technology development and production coordination, in this process, our staff found that the technology of the ammunition factory can solve several problems in the production of our 130 shells."

"That's why our 130 tank gun was able to enter the testing process so quickly."

Wang Ye's voice echoed in the room, Wei Qingshan and Zhou Jinlie couldn't help frowning when they heard it, and finally Wang Ye sighed and said with emotion:

"In the end, because of this incident, the project committee members and I sighed that scientific research cannot be done behind closed doors."

"Although our consortium has money and people, and now it is indeed making a lot of money, but we must not be proud and complacent because of this, after all, how many research institutes and military factories do we have in China? God knows how many talents and valuable technology are inside! Maybe they have some kind of technology that we have invested a lot of money in and can't figure it out! ”

With Wang Ye's explanation, the two leaders present already understood what Wang Ye wanted to say.

"According to the case you cited, with my years of experience."

"In our other units, this situation should indeed exist!"

In the end, as the leader of the Fifth Machine Department and the department responsible for the entire military industry, the old man Zhou Jinlie couldn't help but sigh and said.

The old man Wei Qingshan next to him was even more serious, and said bluntly:

"Not existential, I'm guessing it's widespread!"

"After all, we used to play a game of chess, but how many people did we have in our ministry? There are so many military factory research institutes and research institutes below, how can the relevant technologies be coordinated foolproof? ”

"In addition to key projects, I am afraid that there are many technologies that have been ignored like this."

At that moment, the atmosphere at the scene was a little depressing, and Wang Ye smiled a little helplessly, and said again while adding tea to the two of them:

"If you just ignore it, it's fine."

"The point is, I'll give you an example! If we can't overcome a small technology point in a project, and finally for the orderly progress of the whole project, we have to decide to purchase relevant small technology points from abroad, or because foreign countries do not sell us technology, we decide to import related products. ”

"In the end, when our project was launched, it took a few years for us to know by chance that the military factory next door had overcome this small technology, how uncomfortable do you say it was? How disgusting? What a diaphragm! ”

"The key foreign exchange was spent, and the technology of the factory next door had no way, so I finally gave up."

"What are you talking about?"

"If you want me to say, this is an extreme waste of national resources!"

When they heard this, a stunned expression appeared on the faces of these two leaders, and finally they couldn't help but glance at each other and saw the wry smile on each other's faces!

Because they have to admit that the situation that Wang Ye said is very likely to happen!

Why? Because now that China has opened up, we have realized the gap with the international advanced level, and we are trying to make up for it, and the way to make up for it is independent scientific research on the one hand, and external purchase on the other!

The civilian field is buying foreign advanced technologies and products, such as the previous oil equipment, and the military field is actually also buying, such as the British L-7 rifled 105 mm tank gun technology introduced a few years ago, although this technology was not very advanced in the world at that time, but the domestic poor was more, and it was bought back at a great price!

Of course, tank guns are key projects, and the probability of such technical omissions is unlikely.

But not all military projects are key projects, and every big project is actually a combination of countless small projects, small technologies, and small parts.

Spending precious foreign exchange to buy back the technology you already have is simply an unjust act!

Finally, Wang Ye sighed and said:

"So after discovering this situation, I chatted with our committee members, and talked about everyone's past work in the research institute and research institute, and found that there may be many similar situations."

"A lot of technology came out, but I didn't know where to use it for a while, so I put it on hold."

"So I'm wondering, should our military industrial system, like our industrial system in Luqi Province, do this industrial chain conference according to the time cycle, everyone contact each other, chat, maybe in the process of communication, technology can check and fill in the gaps, and solve the problem just now."

"Even ministries and commissions can make an index, integrate everyone's technical reserves in the form of titles and synopses, so that everyone can query each other, such as what product we want to engage in, what technology is missing, we can go to this index to check it first, if there is, isn't everything fine?"

Hearing Wang Ye say this, a flash of joy suddenly appeared on the faces of the two leaders present, and Wang Ye continued to take care of himself:

"However, there is a problem with that."

"On the one hand, it is secrecy, although there is a big gap between our domestic technology and the world's advanced level, but the soldiers are also treacherous, don't they pay attention to the truth and the truth, so that the enemy can not figure out the situation? Therefore, even the title and synopsis need to be kept strictly confidential, and it is equivalent to summarizing all the technologies of the whole country, in fact, there are risks. ”

"On the other hand, there is the issue of the 'interests' of various research institutes and military factories."

"In the past, we were a game of chess, and in the future, we will still play a game of chess, but between the chess pieces and the chess pieces, I think there must be a 'sense of distance', what can't be yours is mine, mine is yours, similar to the rules of our export to earn foreign exchange, everyone can't copy each other or even ask for nothing, which is unreasonable."

"To give a simple example, if this conference is held and our consortium participates, and we see that the technology of this military factory is good, and the technology of that research institute is good, and then we all want to come over directly, this is also unreasonable, and it is not conducive to stimulating the subjective initiative of various units to engage in scientific research, and it is not conducive to entering a virtuous circle."

"I think that it can be done in this way, for example, if we can't produce a certain part and other military factories can, then we should spend money to find someone to do OEM, as long as the price is right, and the military factory takes our OEM money, there are corporate profits, and we can continue to invest in scientific research, which is a positive direction of the cycle."

"If a certain technology really needs to be introduced from the research institute, then it should be paid for, which I think is reasonable, or it can also be engaged in joint research and development, just like we and other third-tier factories in Luqi Province."

In essence, these contents mentioned by Wang Ye will begin to be implemented step by step in a few years with the transformation of the Fifth Machinery Department into the North Industries Corporation, as well as the enterprise system reform of various military factories across the country.

Just like you Shen Huoyi can't open your mouth to find someone Rong Luoma to ask for technology, you either pay for it, or exchange technology, unless the project is not good, it is a key project, the ministry and China Aviation Industry Co., Ltd. coordinate on it, then no one has a rut, this is called a game of chess, otherwise under normal circumstances, these two companies are each their own, each engages in its own products, each grabs its own military orders, and each thinks of its own export methods.

Just like the well-known twin-tailed scorpion drone forty years later, it is essentially a cooperative product of SF Express and Rongfei's subsidiary, can you copy it from other factories? Can someone ask for a technical replication? Definitely not.

But in this era, theoretically, in addition to the part of exporting foreign exchange, domestic technology is still shared in other aspects.

In Wang Ye's view, if this problem is not solved, the military industry conference will not be opened.

At that time, everyone can only mingle, after all, they didn't know in the past, but now that the conference opens, everyone knows, the result is that they go back to cry poor and cry miserably, find ministries and commissions to ask for the technology of other factories or research institutes, enrich their own strength, launch their own products, and then find a way to integrate and use them to earn foreign exchange.

"However, the specific issues have to be weighed by the leaders."

In the end, Wang Ye said so, but the old man Wei Qingshan didn't seem to care, nodded and said:

"That's the truth, in essence, this is our internal 'military patent'."

"On the one hand, it can stimulate the enthusiasm of various military factories and research institutes for scientific research, and on the other hand, it can also encourage everyone to dig deep into technology and become better and stronger, instead of blindly seeking perfection."

"The civil industry chain conference is very good, you have the ability to earn foreign exchange, then you will take the lead, and others will do the support."

"I look at the military industry, and this direction is not wrong."

Hearing the old man Wei Qingshan say this, the old man Zhou Jinlie next to him suddenly shook his head with a smile and said:

"It's a good suggestion, but how do I feel?"

"Your consortium is the biggest winner, huh?"

Regarding the old man Zhou Jinlie's statement, Wang Ye smiled and said:

"What you said, we are also making foreign exchange for the country!"

"How long does it take to get foreign exchange from Pakistan? Isn't Saudi Arabia here to send foreign exchange again? ”

As soon as Wang Ye's words fell, the two leaders couldn't help laughing, after all, as long as they mentioned foreign exchange now, the whole person was happy, it was really the foreign exchange sent by Saudi Arabia this time, too much!

"Look at you boy cow! Yes! ”

"Not to mention for the time being, this is indeed a good plan, even if it is for you, a big foreign exchange earner, our ministries and commissions will also do a good job of service for you!"

"Okay, that's it for the military industry chain conference, let's go back to the meeting, there should be no problem."

"Even if it's fast, maybe the first month of the new year will start to open!"

In the end, the old man Zhou Jinlie said with a smile, and after finishing speaking, he seemed to remember something, and said in a low voice:

"By the way, Pakistan's foreign exchange, the leaders above have specially approved."

"I made 500 million directly for you!"

"According to the leader, it is the value of the foreign exchange you spend, and the good money you spend, it will cost more money than other units that want foreign exchange, after all, Toshiba's machine tools, you can buy them back."

"The leader was very happy and said that he would give you an award."

Hearing the old man Zhou Jinlie say this, Wang Ye's eyes lit up suddenly, after all, no one will be too little in foreign exchange, although the consortium emphasizes self-research, but self-research is the act of making cars behind closed doors, and some things that should be bought still have to be bought, such as machine tools, these are all that require US dollars, and green coins are good!

"Leader, not many people know about this, right?"

In the next second, Wang Ye hurriedly asked, and the old man Zhou Jinlie shook his head and said:

"The stakes are high, who dares to publicize it?"

"Except for the two comrades of the leadership and the special department, just the two of us, there are no more than five people in total who know about it, you can rest assured in terms of secrecy, there is absolutely no problem with the leadership specifically emphasized and ordered."

"I heard some time ago that the first batch of machine tools has been delivered?"

Wang Ye nodded, and then a smile appeared on the old man Zhou Jinlie's face again and said:

"Good! All right! In any case, we must keep it a good job. ”

"There must be no room for error on this project!"

The old man Wei Qingshan next to him nodded quickly, expressing his approval of the old man Zhou Jinlie's words, after all, the application of four-axis and five-axis machine tools in the military is too important, and the manufacturing of turbine blades for aviation development, the propeller manufacturing of warships and submarines, these complex parts are all required to be carried out by multi-axis machine tools.

In the slightly excited expressions of the two leaders, Wang Ye smiled and continued:

"On the day of delivery, I met Megumi Mitsui."

"Do you two have any impressions? It's the one I met in Saudi Arabia, the lady from the Mitsui Group. ”

"Actually, the reason why I am mysterious today is mainly because I have a relationship with her, and when I met her, she was very cautious and talked to me about one thing."

Subsequently, Wang Ye described the situation of the meeting in 1510, and retold what Mitsui Hui said almost word for word, and finally explained some of his conjectures and worries in detail.

In this process, when the two leaders heard the plan proposed by Megumi Mitsui, they were directly dumbfounded, and then the two nearly seventy-year-old people, directly like children who got new toys, actually stood up, the excitement on their faces was beyond words, and they began to circle around Wang Ye's office, wanting to laugh but not daring to laugh, as if they were afraid of leaking secrets, and even their hands were trembling, and they couldn't light a cigarette, and finally Wang Ye lit it!

For their excitement, in fact, Wang Ye can understand.

Nowadays, although the country is open, it does not mean that the world is willing to accept you, but more is actually exclusion, not to mention the existence of eight cylinders, not to mention that there is not much foreign exchange in the country now, even if there is a lot of foreign exchange, waving the dollar, if you want to buy something, the probability of being able to buy it is also very small.

Just like the previous large-scale oil equipment, there are many countries and companies in this world that can manufacture, but except for small Japan, other countries just don't sell it to you, and even if it weren't for Wang Ye, it would be impossible for Saudi Arabia to be slaughtered, and in the end it could only be slaughtered by small Japan, because things are scarce and expensive, and they can't be bought from other channels!

In a sense, this is a kind of "monopoly".

But now, Mitsui has actually offered such a condition, as long as the dollar can afford it, you can sell whatever you want!

Not to mention, the two sides are still in the form of joint shares, which is different from simple purchases, it is a closer relationship of interests, and Mitsui will not be like the previous oil equipment, what price to slaughter fat sheep, from the price of the last set of oil equipment to Wang Ye's hands, it can be seen that if Mitsui directly opened this price at that time, it is estimated that the Ministry of Petroleum will be happy and happily buy it, where can I use it to Saudi Arabia?

"I understand your concern!"

"However, Wang Ye, you also mentioned that this is an opportunity given by the times, and we can't give up food because of choking!"

"Just like the five-axis machine tool this time, are we afraid to buy it because we are afraid of the retaliation of the eight cylinders after the news leaks in the future? Of course not! ”

"Besides, a few Japanese, why be afraid?"

"In front of the vast sea of people, everything will be swallowed up by the people!"

Finally, after Wang Ye finished speaking, the old man Zhou Jinlie took a sip of most of his cigarette and then said in a slightly trembling voice, while the old man Wei Qingshan nodded, and then said:

"Since they have their eye on you, then we will let them get what they want."

"Isn't it just shares? Anyway, there has been a debate about the shareholding reform, Wang Ye, aren't you now contracting the original big collective of the Red Star Machinery Factory? ”

"It's called the Red Star Manufactory now, right?"

"I think it's based on this factory, you hold 60% of the shares, and the original Red Star Consortium and Yuntai City Industrial Bureau each account for 20%, let them each give up half of it to Mitsui!"

"As for the site, I will go to your dismantling plant, which is deep in the mountains and old forests, which is convenient for secrecy, but there is a railway, and the transportation is very convenient, as for the troops, they will find a way to transfer some of them, and the rest will be transferred to security."

"In addition, there are manpower, we will find it for you from all over the country, not to mention 10,000, seven or eight thousand will definitely be no problem, as for the family members, they will settle next to Laiyang County, Wang Ye, you can find them some work to do."

"All in all, this is an opportunity that we must grasp!"

"But whether you can bring out all their skills depends on you, the factory director, Wang Ye! We've got you covered! ”

"If I look at this project, let's call it Project 831!"

"Old Zhou, what do you see?"

Hearing the words of the old man Wei Qingshan, Zhou Jinlie nodded with a smile and said:

"I don't have an opinion, but we don't count."

"I have to go back and report to the leader!"