Soon the time came to noon, and Wang Ye and the two leaders ate the canteen of the Fifth Machine Department.

At twelve forty o'clock, the three of them returned to the office again, and chatted while sitting and smoking, and the topic was much more relaxed than in the morning.

After all, whether it is selling ammunition and firearms to the US market or setting up a farming company to farm land in Africa, this is not a problem that can be solved in a hurry; if nothing else, let's just say that the entire demobilization cycle of the one million soldiers in the army will last for at least five years or so, otherwise there will definitely be problems if so many people are removed at one time.

"By the way, Wang Ye, when are you and the Yankees' negotiation team going to leave?"

In the office, the old man Wei Qingshan was holding a cigarette, looked at Wang Ye and asked casually, Wang Ye said without thinking:

"When I get back, I'll organize it briefly and then have a meeting."

"It's estimated that we will be able to leave in early April."

Wei Qingshan nodded and said no more, while Zhou Jinlie frowned and said:

"However, Wang Ye, you just said that the ammunition agreed upon by your cooperation with the United States is copper-shelled, right?"

"We don't have much copper in China, and the price is not cheap, although you are making foreign exchange, even if you supply it according to the planned price, the price cannot be too cheap, and even the amount will not be particularly large, after all, copper is a thing, but it is a metal related to national defense and security, even if it is to earn dollars, it cannot be given to you."

"And the Americans hope that in the next year, they will be able to export at least 500 million worth of ammunition, the scale is too big!"

"Tsk! They're really rich, too! ”

"So what are you going to do? Looking for a way to import a part? Got an idea and a plan? ”

"No, I'll help you call Lao Pang of the Ministry of Geology and ask? Or contact someone on the import and export side? They should know more about this matter, and there may be some ways, after all, we have also imported some copper ore in the past. ”

Regarding Zhou Jinlie's statement, Wang Ye shook his head slightly and said:

"Not for now, I have a few plans."

Hearing Wang Ye say this, Wei Qingshan next to him raised his hand and asked with a little curiosity:

"Tell me?"

Under the gaze of the two leaders, Wang Ye extinguished the cigarette butt and said with a smile:

"Four plans, three main and one second."

"Of course, these plans are all imported copper ore, after all, we lack copper in China, this is an indisputable fact."

"The first plan, in fact, I want to contact the Soviet side."

Hearing Wang Ye say this, he saw that Wei Qingshan and Zhou Jinlie's expressions were instantly stunned, and after a short silence, Zhou Jinlie's gray eyebrows twitched, and he couldn't help but say with emotion:

"Wang Ye, you kid, you have a good hand of checks and balances!"

"Now that the United States and the Soviet Union are vying for hegemony, we can only fight left and right, and strive for development in the cracks."

"And because the enemy of our enemy is our friend, the United States has been very ambiguous in its relations with us in the past two years, and we have always hoped to get some good things from the United States."

"But just like Wang Ye said, the key to the left and right is the left and right, if you stand in line, there is no left and right, not to mention, the United States is friendly to us, this temporary situation caused by the international environment, in the long run, we are not all the way."

"So, you want to put some pressure on the United States?"

As soon as Zhou Jinlie's words came out, Wang Ye directly gave a thumbs up and said in a loud voice:

"Sure enough, the leader who knows me is also, that's how I think about it!"

"Some time ago, didn't the Americans reject the cooperation plan I proposed in Tanzania?"

"Even because of this cooperation problem, it indirectly led to Blake's death."

"In this case, although we have begun to cooperate with the Americans, we must also make our attitude clear, although we cooperate with you, it does not mean that we can only cooperate with you, or that we have any dependence on you, we can be friends with you, and we can also be friends with the Soviet Union."

"You don't want to make the USSR poor? Then we can make the USSR rich! ”

"You also said, there is no motivation without pressure!"

As soon as the words fell, there was a burst of laughter of three people in the office, and after the laughter ended, Wei Qingshan said in a slightly helpless voice:

"The plan is good, the USSR is actually not short of copper."

"People use steel-clad copper-clad bullets just to save costs, and we are purely because of a lack of copper."

"And this step can indeed make the United States sober and sober, Wang Ye, you are right, there is no pressure, there is no motivation, can he still be an American because of this copper, directly with us?"

"Hmph, if they had the courage and ability, they would have dominated the world a long time ago!"

Speaking of this, Wei Qingshan paused, then changed his words and continued:

"However, although in the last two years, we and the Soviet Union have also sent some friendly signals to each other, but that's all, and there is no further action."

"So Wang Ye, if you want to cooperate with the Soviet Union, you have to figure out how to contact the specific contact."

"However, I think this should be a good thing, because the times are different, and you are a people-to-people cooperation, maybe this can also be a breakthrough in our relations with the Soviet Union."

"Just like Wang Ye, you often say, there are no eternal friends, only eternal interests!"

After Wei Qingshan's emotion ended, Zhou Jinlie, who was sitting next to him, asked:

"What about the other options? Wang Ye. ”

"Don't you have a master, three subordinates, and four plans? That's the first one. ”

Then Wang Ye hurriedly said:

"The second option is to import from Chile."

"Chile has the highest copper reserves and production in the world, and importing copper ore from their country and then smelting it is cheaper than our domestic production."

"So Chile is the safest of all these options that I have, and there will be no problems."

"Just send a team and talk to the Chilean authorities about cooperation."

"The third option is Zambia."

"This country is very rich in copper reserves, and it used to have a good relationship with us, and they are trying to develop their economy and get out of the control of Western countries and conglomerates."

"Coupled with the fact that they are backed by Tanzania and some of the wars in their country, they are very dependent on getting some second-hand cheap weapons and even food from Tanzania."

"I think there's a lot of room for us to operate with."

What Wang Ye said is the fact that in the future of a few decades, the scale of domestic investment and cooperation in Zambia is very large, both at the official level and at the non-governmental level, and such investment and cooperation can bring a lot of profits and benefits to the country every year, and the level of diplomatic relations between the two sides is also very high.

As for Zambia's copper mines, there is nothing to say, once on the global copper reserves list, Chile is the first, the United States is the second, Zambia is the third, in the era of a few decades, a large number of copper ores in the country, are obtained from Zambia, because many copper mines in Zambia are operated by domestic related companies.

"Shh

"No good thing can escape your eyes! And your kid's appetite is too big? I went to Africa for a lap, and I fell in love with Zambia? ”

"However, if you want to cooperate with them, I'm afraid it will be a lot more difficult!"

Faced with Wei Qingshan's remarks, Wang Ye smiled and said:

"Of course, there must be difficulties, but as long as there is a glimmer of opportunity, we can't give up, I believe that we can definitely use our simple red heart to impress them!"

"In the end, a long-term, in-depth and large-scale cooperation plan will be reached."

Regarding Wang Ye's optimism, Zhou Jinlie gave a thumbs up and said:

"I just like your kid's attitude."

"Okay, then wait for your good news and see if your red heart works."

"The three main plans are finished, but what about the last one?"

Hearing Zhou Jinlie say this, Wang Ye scratched his head and said:

"The last plan is actually to buy from the United States."

"After all, the United States is also the world's largest copper producer and exporter, and if I want to buy copper ore from them, they will definitely be very happy."

"And we have already calculated, the price of copper ore in the United States is very suitable, and compared with buying from Chile, the shipping cost is much lower, so their ore is transported to us to be refined into copper ingots, and then the copper ingots are processed into bullet shells, and finally made into bullets and sold to them, so that the profits are actually good."

"The point is, I don't want Lao Mei to make this money easily."

"I hope that in the future, when the large-scale cooperation between our two sides is on the negotiating table, and when the negotiation progress is stuck, this trick can be used to mobilize their domestic mining-related companies and consortia to put pressure on the Black House."

As soon as Wang Ye's words fell, Zhou Jinlie and Wei Qingshan glanced at each other, and then couldn't help but laugh directly, Zhou Jinlie said while laughing:

"You kid, look at the thick eyebrows and big eyes, and you have a belly of heart! Hahaha! ”

"I like it, though! That's it! ”

"Damn, a few years ago, we negotiated with the United States to buy their fertilizer equipment, and they took advantage of the fire to rob and salvage a hand, and they wanted us to buy their grain, not to buy it!"

"Tell me, how despicable!"

"Hey! This time, we're disgusting with them too. ”

The small talk of the three continued, then, until four o'clock in the afternoon.

"Two leaders, if there is nothing else, then I will leave first!"

"I should visit the Japanese woman tomorrow morning, she is probably a little impatient, after meeting her, there is a high probability that I will return to Laiyang in the afternoon."

Hearing Wang Ye say this, Wei Qingshan and Zhou Jinlie glanced at each other, and Zhou Jinlie coughed lightly and said:

"Actually, there's really a thing."

"Since the end of the National Military Industry Exchange Conference, there are several relevant persons in charge of our military industry system schools, who have been hoping to meet you and want to talk to you."

"According to them, they want to cooperate with your Red Star Consortium and your Red Star Industrial Academy."

"On cooperation in scientific research."

As soon as these words came out, Wang Ye was stunned for a moment, and subconsciously asked:

"Which schools?"

Under Wang Ye's gaze, Wei Qingshan next to him said without thinking:

"Yenching University of Science and Technology, Harbin Ice University of Technology, Yenching Institute of Aeronautics, Jinling Aviation College, Rongcheng Telecommunications Engineering College, Northwestern Polytechnical University, Jinling University of Science and Technology."

"There are just a few of them, and they are basically schools directly under our military industrial system."

Accompanied by Wei Qingshan's voice, Wang Ye felt that his heart couldn't help but start to "knock knock", because these seven schools basically covered the seven sons of the old national defense and the seven sons of the new national defense!

In fact, Wang Ye has coveted these schools for a long time, and there are two main reasons why he didn't start.

The first reason is that Wang Ye did not think clearly about how the two sides should carry out cooperation activities.

Is it the Red Star Consortium that pays these universities? Should their researchers carry out certain scientific research projects in their own schools and in accordance with the requirements of the Red Star Consortium, or should they send researchers from these universities to the Red Star Consortium to carry out scientific research work in the Red Star Consortium?

But no matter which solution it is, there are actually problems.

If you give money, this money will be in the hands of the other school, but you will not listen to Wang Ye's command, and in the end, how much will be used for the cooperative project, in fact, Wang Ye can't control it at all, and even in the end, the project can't be completed as scheduled, or the other party directly defaults on the debt, and Wang Ye also lacks sufficient accountability ability.

The consortium has a little money, but it is not enough money to burn it, and universities are engaged in scientific research, which is definitely burning money, and in the absence of sufficient control, it is easy to lose all their money.

As for dignitaries, the problem is even greater.

As a simple example, if Wang Ye went directly to the door and said to the leader of Yenching University of Science and Technology, "Can we cooperate with each other?" Can you lend Professor XXX and his team to us? ”

Doesn't that sound like sheer prying?

Although everyone is a system, but each has its own unit, it can't be said that because your unit has money, you will rob all the people in our unit, there is no reason for this, even if it ends up in the ministry, the ministry will definitely not be able to solve this problem, and even the ministry will most likely not support the Red Star Consortium.

The reason is very simple, although the Red Star Consortium is a big foreign exchange earner, but you can't give all the outstanding scientists to your Red Star Consortium, and there is no reason for this!

Therefore, no matter what kind of cooperation is used, in the end, the vast majority of scientists and researchers cannot stay in the Red Star Consortium permanently.

This is completely different from the ministry passing the appointment order to transfer some scientific research personnel to the Red Star Consortium, which is oriented to the whole country, and each unit may have one or two people, which does not affect the overall situation of the original unit.

The second reason is that the scale and level of scientific research of the former Red Star Consortium are insufficient.

This scale and level can be divided into two aspects, on the one hand, the material base, and on the other hand, the personnel base.

According to Wang Ye's idea, the best way to cooperate is to pull the scientific researchers of these universities to the territory of the consortium to conduct research, then the consortium must have enough scientific research material base, otherwise there will be no equipment, no instruments, how to research?

As for the personnel base, it's even simpler, such awesome scientists and teams have been invited, and the scientific researchers on the side of the Red Star Consortium can't get involved because their level is too low, and they can't learn anything, isn't it a great waste? Isn't money spent in vain?

After all, in Wang Ye's view, although the products made in the cooperation are important, it is more important to cultivate a group of high-level scientists belonging to the consortium in the cooperation!

All in all.

The Red Star Consortium in the autumn and winter of last year, that is, a bronze and silver level, you took the initiative to find the strongest king like the Western University of Technology and Harbin Institute of Technology to form a team, which is not interesting.

But now it's different, after a few months of personnel transfer from the ministry and commission, the level of scientific research personnel in the consortium has obviously begun to rise, at least there must be a platinum diamond level, although there is still a gap with top universities like Western University of Technology, but it will not be incomprehensible, and there will be a problem of chickens and ducks talking about playing the piano against cows.

And it is conceivable that this improvement will continue, and the level will be higher and higher.

As for the material base of scientific research, this is not to mention.

A new round of large-scale expansion has begun, the crazy construction of various sites and laboratories, the crazy procurement of various equipment and instruments, and even independent research and production, the total scientific research capacity has begun to develop by leaps and bounds, and it can be expected that it will soon reach the level of the domestic first-line and complete the transcendence!

After all, it's easy to say anything if you have money!

"Shhh Is it? ”

"And how are they going to work together?"

Under the gaze of the two leaders, Wang Ye's expression remained unchanged, and he seemed to ask with a little curiosity.

As soon as these words came out, Zhou Jinlie and Wei Qingshan said almost at the same time:

"Listen to you!"

"You can do anything!"

At that moment, Wang Ye couldn't help but laugh!