Chapter 369: Project 83

"Of course you can!" Li Ming stood up: "Leaders, when our Northern Institute and the 112 Factory were in 86, they planned to overhaul the J-82 and strive to make this aircraft reach the level of the J-10, but later because of the cooperation with the Americans, we postponed the project. Now, we are determined to develop this J-8 2 overhaul model and make it our fighting machine! ”

"Well said!" The big leader nodded: "We just have to have this firm belief, we have suffered a loss in the 82 Project, we must find it back in the new project, we must let the foreigners see, without them, we can still develop advanced aircraft, for the country and the people to fight for the country!" ”

"Yes, let's go to the conference room now and report to the leaders!"

In the conference room, Li Ming opened the slides that had been prepared long ago and introduced them.

"Our Qiqi machine project, specifically on the basis of the J-8 2, has carried out two major changes, two adaptations, and eight improvements." Li Ming was full of interest: "First of all, I will introduce two major changes, the first one is to replace the turbojet 14 engine developed and produced by our Dawn Factory. With this engine, it will be possible to get first-class maneuverability ...... our J-8"

Qin Feng's brows furrowed involuntarily.

Turbojet-14, Kunlun engine, in later generations is like thunder, an ordinary military fan can tell: this is China's first to complete the whole process of self-design, trial production, testing, and flight test flight, is the most advanced medium-thrust turbojet engine in China.

However, if you take a closer look, you can't help but sigh: it's unreliable when you want to use it, and when it's reliable, there's no need to use it!

The development of aero engines in the West, starting from the first blade and the first wheel disc, slowly formed a combination of compressors and turbines, formed a core engine, and gradually formed a series of engines, and completed the whole process of research and development.

But Dongfang did not take this route, even if he wanted to, it was too late, the core maneuver needed to operate for more than ten years, who has the time and energy.

Then let's take it! Put all kinds of parts together, and you can put them on the bench for test runs in a year or two!

After the turbofan was dismounted six times, the R&D personnel had nothing to do, and the team might disperse, so the turbojet 14 project was established, and the J-7 and J-8 at that time needed advanced engines, which were just for these aircraft.

Specifically, it is to take the three-stage low-pressure compressor of turbojet 13, and then reduce the first 7-stage high-pressure compressor of Spey MK202, and put the compressor together, as for the combustion chamber, turbine, afterburner, etc., the design of turbofan 6 is directly adopted.

The first deficiency of the matching engine in this way is the mismatch between high and low pressure, and the engine can not run stably at all, until the summer of 88, the third stage compressor was redesigned, and the fourth stage compressor was added, and the high and low pressure can finally get together and turn together.

"At the end of March, our turbojet-14 achieved 12-second acceleration from slow to intermediate for the first time, and is currently planning to carry out a full acceleration test from slow to full afterburner, and when this experiment is successful, our turbojet-14 engine will be completely mature." Li Ming is full of confidence.

Is it ripe? Of course not! In fact, it was completely solved in 92, and then it was installed on the plane for testing, and all kinds of problems appeared, even if it was barely put into the ass of the J-8, the Air Force did not dare to use it, and it was easy to fly parts after the engine went into the sky, who could stand it.

The turbojet-14 was finally officially finalized in 2002, but at that time, the J-10 had already come out, and there was no need for the J-7 and J-8 to continue to develop, so the turbojet-14 engine, nicknamed Kunlun, was not matched by any model in the end.

There are follow-up development plans for Kunlun 2 and Kunlun 3, but the era of turbojet has long ended! The world's most powerful turbojet engine could only come to an abrupt end.

In fact, if you can speed up the progress and mature this kind of engine, in fact, the performance is still very strong, especially the Kunlun 2 engine, with a maximum thrust of 5.8 tons, which has caught up with the turbojet 7 engine thrust currently equipped with the J-82 fighter!

The Kunlun 2 engine can make the eighth master fly to Mach 2 without afterburner, and this supersonic cruise capability is unmatched, even if it can't even be compared with F22! The eighth master also has the strength to face F22!

If the Kunlun 2 engine turns on the afterburner, it is 8.3 tons of thrust, which is enough for the eighth master to fly to the index of double three, provided that the weak aluminum alloy body can withstand the high temperature of air friction.

However, that's all about the Year of the Monkey!

If Qin Feng is reborn as an aero engine expert in the 606 Institute, he must get Kunlun and Taihang out in advance and solve countless regrets, but unfortunately he is not!

Thinking of this, Qin Feng shook his head helplessly.

"Mr. Qin, are you not optimistic about our plan?" A voice rang out.

Qin Feng was a little dumbfounded, he didn't have it! He raised his head and looked at Li Ming, who was asking: "It's okay, you continue, continue!" ”

"Mr. Qin, I obviously saw that you just shook your head, if you have any opinions, you can say it now, let's accept it with an open mind."

Li Ming is still holding back the anger in his belly! I couldn't find anyone before, but now that Qin Feng is here, he has been yin and yang, after the first overhaul project is finished, the second overhaul project needs his cooperation from the Pacific Group, he has to give Qin Feng a disappointment now, let Qin Feng know that now there are so many leaders on the scene, Qin Feng definitely doesn't dare to talk nonsense, the second project, Qin Feng also has to admit it!

Qin Feng thought about it for a while, since he had come to this era, since he had also participated in these activities, he had to give full play to his ability.

So, Qin Feng didn't refuse.

"I don't think it's appropriate to install a Turbojet-14."

"Why?"

"Our country's aviation industry, and did not go through the process of aero engine development in a down-to-earth manner, of course, our industrial foundation is thin, and the research and development task of aero engines is very important, if you don't put the engine on the bench for a year or two, then the superiors will definitely be dissatisfied, so, in this case, we use surveying and mapping, we will patchwork together and integrate different types of engine parts, which is understandable."

The faces of everyone present were difficult to look at.

"This method has little investment, short time and quick results, but for sophisticated and complex aero engines, this kind of development method that does not know why it is natural is destined to have all kinds of defects, even if it is reluctantly loaded on the aircraft, it may lead to concentrated problems and eventually cause irreparable losses."

This is a total negation of the Turbojet-14!

"Mr. Qin, are you optimistic about our turbojet-14? Is there a better solution? ”

"There are also plans, but ......"

"Oh? Then tell us about it, let our experts here listen, although your Pacific Group is a private enterprise, but in the eyes of our Air Force, it is fragrant. ”

Lin Lao's brows furrowed, this Li Ming spoke like this in front of so many leaders, it was a bit excessive.

"The most suitable solution is to use the RD33 engine."

rd33?

The people present were all insiders, and they immediately reacted: "The engine of the MiG-29? ”

"That's right, we can get this kind of engine back, and after surveying and imitating, it will be used to reequip the J-7 and J-8, not only for our own use, but also for export models." Qin Feng spoke.

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Turbofan Ten and the third aunt belong to the big push, and at the same time, the thrust is too thick to fit into the ass of the J7 and J 8, but the RD33 is different in the middle thrust.

The export facelift of the J-7 is the Super Seven, which was originally intended to be equipped with F404, but finally changed to RD33, and the double-hair large version of the J-8, in the nineties, also studied the technical problems of installing the RD33 with the people of the Mikoyan Design Bureau, but it was not changed later.

Later, the domestic surveying and mapping copied RD33, and the model of turbofan-13 was hammered out, and it is said that a few units were not produced, but since there is already a turbofan-13, when Lao Maozi sells RD33, he will definitely not dare to ask for a high price.

What's more, the fourth-generation stealth aircraft that the north made in later generations also used this kind of engine, and now Qin Feng proposed it, which can be regarded as paving the way for them in advance.

"Mr. Qin, your project of surveying and mapping imitation AL-31F engine has been approved, and now, you propose to survey and map imitation RD33, so that our domestic aero engines will continue to be built on the basis of surveying and mapping imitation, so when will our self-developed engine break through?" Li Ming's face was serious: "You just said that our aviation industry department did not finish in a down-to-earth manner, and now, you want to completely prevent us from developing our own engines, even if you don't even need to assemble them, right?" ”

"Whatever you think, I'm just proposing the best solution." Qin Feng said: "Actually, if you agree, I can get a batch of RD33 engines now and let you modify them, since you are so resistant, forget it!" ”

Li Ming was instantly dumbfounded.

What did Mr. Qin just say? As long as you agree with yourself, you can get a batch of RD33 engines right away?

If there is such an engine, then what else is there to say, install it and try it! After all, this is a turbofan engine! If you load it, you can save half the fuel and double the range of the aircraft! The thrust is also large enough, and the high-altitude and high-speed performance will not be reduced!

The F404 engine, which also belongs to the middle thrust, has advanced performance, but it still has the defect of weakness at high altitude, but RD33 does not, and it is still very powerful at high altitude, which will not reduce the high-altitude and high-speed performance of the J-82 fighter, and will also increase the range and speed without afterburner.

What happened to me just now? How can you keep scolding Mr. Qin? How does it end now?

"Mr. Qin, I remember that you got a MiG-29 machine last time, and since you can get the whole machine, this engine must be no problem." Lin Lao said: "I just don't know what the price is? ”

"The price is not too expensive, at most one or two million dollars, and it can also be exchanged for our agricultural products and light industrial products." Qin Feng replied: "However, since the Northern Institute is not interested, then forget it, after all, our Pacific Group mainly produces civilian products, and we don't understand aircraft, artillery and tanks, and the Northern Institute is a professional, so they still use their own turbojet-14!" ”

Li Ming's face was red and white for a while, he could hear it, this Qin was always taking revenge on him! Since he wants to reject Mr. Qin's proposal, then of course Mr. Qin must let him know how to write the word regret.

601 and 606 are in the same city, the engineers are looking up and not looking down, the other party has a few catties and a few taels, the door is clear, the Jianba this gas machine project is going to be replaced with turbojet-14, how much uncertainty there is, of course he Li Ming knows, but this is also a helpless thing, if there is a better engine, who will choose self-developed, and the American-made F404 is not allowed to be used.

Moreover, we have to take care of the brother units, as long as the gas machine project can be launched, we can win a large amount of research and development funds for the brother units.

Now, Li Ming regrets it.

At this moment, Gu Lao spoke.

"Mr. Qin, this plan is also good, we have been considering matching our own engines, you have provided us with a new choice, if it is convenient, can you get us two RD33s, let us study and study?"

"I don't have a problem personally, as long as you pay for it, I can help get it, but ...... Didn't this Li Gong look down on it just now! ”

Everyone's eyes fell on Li Ming's face again, and even the big leaders cast meaningful expressions, Li Ming hurriedly changed his words: "Gu is always the main designer of Jianba, since he agreed, of course I have no opinion." ”

"In other words, you changed your mind because of Gu Lao's opinion? Forget it, forget it, after all, Gu Lao has taken a back seat, now you are the main designer of Jian-8, if you have complaints in your heart, then this package is not good, I don't want to spend a long time, and in the end it will not be good. ”

Li Ming's face was even more ugly, and at this time, in front of so many leaders, he could only make a modest look: "Mr. Qin, I was a little impulsive just now, I didn't think it through, I apologize to you, I, like Mr. Gu, also think that RD33 is a suitable modification plan, as long as you can provide us with an engine, we will definitely take it seriously and match it as soon as possible!" ”

"There's no need to apologize, as long as you promise to get the engine, you can make full use of it, and don't let me become a donkey's liver and lungs with good intentions, that's fine."

"No, no." How embarrassed Li Ming is at this time.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I have already introduced the first major reform to you." Li Ming hurriedly changed the topic: "In order to make the aircraft have a high enough performance, we decided to use the domestic turbojet-14 and the imported RD33 to match, and choose the best among them. ”

"However, the Americans no longer plan to continue to fulfill the contract, and we are afraid that we will not be able to get spare parts from them!" Lin * Chang opened his mouth with a complicated expression.

"Thanks to Mr. Qin, last year, I had already bought 60 sets of the same accessories from Grumman." Li Ming said: "Therefore, we can still modify 60 aircraft according to the original plan." ”

What?

This kind of procurement, the relevant departments don't know yet, it belongs to Lin Lao and Qin Feng together in private, and now that I heard it, countless people are excited.

The big leader's eyes were full of approval, and he looked at Qin Feng: "Mr. Qin, this is a rainy day!" ”

"Ahem, leaders, this was also to cover for J-11." Qin Feng said: "I didn't expect that the Americans would be so untrustworthy. ”

"Mr. Qin, I heard that you spent 500 million US dollars on the purchase of this batch of spare parts, which is exactly the same as the price of our 82 project, and now, for the ...... of our 83 project" Li Ming's mind was thinking quickly, in this situation, it is impossible to let Qin Feng contribute that batch of spare parts for free, just provided the engine, it is clear that they will give them money now, anyway, in front of the big leader, this money can still be allocated by the superiors.

"Yes, at the beginning, our Pacific Group's funds were very tight, but in order to prevent the Americans from finding our stubble, we still gritted our teeth and spent our own money to buy it back, last year was too special, if we used this money to purchase the most urgently needed production raw materials, such as steel and flour, we could save at least half of the money."

"yes, inflation was too bad last year!" Lin Lao also sighed: "The price of many things has doubled, although these spare parts were bought back for 500 million US dollars, but now, they are worth one billion US dollars!" ”

Li Ming's eyes widened again, Old Lin, where are you?

The more expensive the parts we procure, the more expensive the price of the aircraft your Air Force will be, why don't you help us speak, but instead help Mr. Qin?

The big leader sighed: "Yes, we took a big step last year, but fortunately, in the end, it landed smoothly and did not cause serious economic problems." The spare parts that you Pacific Group bought have indeed appreciated in value. ”

"In fact, our Pacific Group makes money, but also to develop our motherland, the development of our industry, if the brother unit needs, we suffer a little loss, it is nothing, even if it is sold to the brother unit at the original price, the problem is ......"

"What's wrong? Mr. Qin, if there are any difficulties, you can just say it. ”

"A few months ago, Song Lao had already taken two sets of spare parts and installed them on their project." Qin Feng was a little embarrassed: "Song Lao's project, I heard that it is more important, after all, Jian-8 has been seen through by the Americans, and Song Lao's project is still confidential, so is this batch of hard-won accessories more suitable for Song Lao's project?" ”

Every sentence is heart-wrenching! Li Ming almost slapped the table!

If you don't want to give, say no, what are you doing with so many turns! One moment he said that he suffered a loss, and another time he said that it didn't matter if he suffered a loss, all good words describe you, and in the end, you still don't give it!

"Our Air Force also thinks that that batch of accessories is more suitable for the No. 10 project." Lin Lao spoke: "After all, we already have J-11 at hand, no matter how J-8 is changed, it is not as good as J-11, long-range interception with J-11 is enough, the performance of J-10 fighters is secret, and it can be used as a killer weapon." ”

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