Chapter 386: MiG-33 is not our thing

The questions raised by Mr. Qin are the most critical!

The Super Seven project was proposed by Lao Ba, so from the very beginning, it was planned to choose engines from the West, F404, PW1120, etc., and I didn't consider RD33 at all.

This is also the first time Tu Lao and the others have come to inspect RD33, and now they have seen the real thing for the first time, and yesterday, Qin Feng had already raised the question of this casing!

"This receiver is so big, and it's still on it, it's not for us." Tu Lao couldn't help but shake his head.

"This receiver was built in the seventies." "That's the only way it could be done, and so far we don't have any plans to improve it," Stalov explains. ”

"By the way, what about Mr. Qin?" Beryakov asked.

"Mr. Qin said that he didn't understand the engine either, and he couldn't see anything when he came to the factory today, so he went out for a stroll." Tu Lao replied.

Don't understand?

A layman who doesn't understand the engine and raises the most acute questions?

Beryakov didn't believe it, he thought of yesterday, Qin Feng said so much data, was he afraid of being investigated by the KGB, and then sneaked away?

The day was spent on the expedition.

"Everyone, we have seen our engine today, and tomorrow, we will have a meeting to discuss the specific cooperation?" Beryakov said with a smile: "Your Super Seven project can be handed over to us to be the general contractor, don't worry, we will definitely be able to solve the problem of engine matching, and the case box problem is not a big deal." ”

Lao Maozi never considered the maintainability of the field battlefield, so, in their eyes, the receiver is placed on it, and there is no big problem if it is inconvenient to maintain, and if the MiG-21 wants to maintain the engine, then the rear half of the fuselage must be removed, and no one complains.

"Well, this ......"

At this moment, a person walked in from outside: "I'm back, Tu Lao, how did you discuss?" ”

"Mr. Qin?" Beryakov looked at Qin Feng curiously: "How are you doing in Leningrad?" ”

"Well, okay, I've looked around, it's a beautiful city, by the way, did our friend decide to change the location of the receiver?"

Old Tu smiled bitterly and shook his head.

"Oh, if we don't change it, we won't be able to use it, so forget it, let's get out of here tomorrow."

What?

Orientals are leaving?

Won't there be formal negotiations tomorrow? How many engines they want to buy, what is the cost of technical support for the Mikoyan Design Bureau, they will talk formally tomorrow, it is estimated that there will be a lot of verbal discussion, but Belyakov is confident that this contract will come over, and the Mikoyan Design Bureau should also make a lot of extra money, even if the Orientals exchange goods for them, it would be good to let them Mikoyan Design Bureau as a welfare.

Now, they're actually leaving?

"Mr. Qin, the location of the receiver is not in the way, and we are confident that it will be designed." Beryakov said.

"yes, we've always designed it that way, and we haven't seen a single ground crew complain." Starov also hastened to echo.

Qin Feng shook his head firmly: "The engine casing of the single-engine fighter must be placed below, only in this way can the ground crew stand on the ground and maintain, not only our super seven, and in the future, you can also change the aircraft to other countries, such as the Mirage 3, you can use this kind of engine, if you change it, not only can you sell it to us, but also sell it to other countries, it is definitely a lot of money, but you don't want to, we can't help it, our customers will never tolerate climbing ladders, Even remove the vertical tail to maintain the engine. ”

After speaking, he looked at Tu Lao and the others: "Let's go, I have already arranged a special plane, let's leave tomorrow!" Farewell, everyone! ”

Mr. Qin just left?

Belyakov and Starov froze in place, and quickly reacted: "Quick, investigate immediately, what route did Eritrean Kunpeng Airlines apply for?" ”

It was just a phone call away, and soon they got the answer: London, England!

"How is this possible, haven't they already fallen out with the West?" Beryakov frowned: "Why did you still go to the West to purchase engines?" ”

"Strange to say, although there was a breakup, it seemed to have eased again, and their peace model project was successfully solved, and Grumman is said to have gone to their side to work together on some project." The assistant who ran to inquire about the news introduced: "The reason why this super seven project came to us is probably not because of Grumman's picking, but because Lao Ba couldn't get the F404 engine for free from the United States." ”

This is thanks to Lao Maozi, because Lao Maozi went south and entered the imperial cemetery, and the Americans needed to use Lao Ba as a springboard to support the guerrillas in the Pamir Plateau, so the United States had to vigorously support Lao Ba.

Lao Ba's F-16 was obtained during this period, and at the same time, Lao Ba also had a lot of military aid, and the avionics and engines used to improve the Super Seven were all directly provided by the United States.

Therefore, Lao Ba asked Grumman to be the general contractor, also because the money was made by the Americans, and in the end it must be spent on the Americans, although Factory 132 can also get benefits, but it is impossible to take too much.

"That is, they came to us only because our engines were cheaper?" Staroff recalled.

"Yes, it's just because we're cheap, so let's take a look, in addition to us, there are also European engines, Rolls-Royce has RB199, and even EJ200, which can be used by them, anyway, the end user is Lao Ba, and they have a way to bypass all kinds of bans."

RB199 is an engine developed for the Tornado fighter-bomber, unique in the military aircraft, the first to use the three-rotor structure, and even the reverse thrust structure, the thrust-to-weight ratio has also reached 8, belonging to the advanced thrust, the later development of the MK106 model, the afterburner thrust has also reached 80 kN, and RD33 is a level, but the life, fuel consumption is much higher than the RD33, of course, there are some problems, such as price, quite touching.

As for the EJ200, it is even more awesome, it belongs to the advanced medium push under development, which is being tested on the bench, the engine is small in size, the weight is only 980 kg, but the thrust has reached 90 kN, and the thrust-to-weight ratio is more than 9! It is precisely by relying on this kind of engine that the Typhoon fighter will be proud of the world.

"Comrade Chief, I just heard the news of the KGB personnel in charge of the eavesdropping, and the Easterners returned to the room and are talking about European engines, including RB199 and EJ200!"

Lao Maozi has the largest intelligence organization in the world, and of course he has to monitor visitors from the east in all aspects, and Qin Feng also knows that he is making use of it.

In the guest room, Qin Feng gushed endlessly.

"I was really tired after a night of running last night, arriving in Western Europe this morning, and coming back in the evening, but I also managed to get in touch with them."

"What did Rolls-Royce say?"

"They provided us with the RB199 engine, there was no problem, and recommended us to use the MK106 model, afterburner thrust 80 kN, and RD33 a level, but the weight is light, the thrust-to-weight ratio is high, the diameter is small, very suitable for us to use, the only drawback is expensive, however, the price problem, that is the old Ba to discuss, and we have nothing to do."

"yes, this kind of engine is not bad, let's go over tomorrow to have a look, and I don't know if we can see the EJ200 they are testing on the bench."

"Of course, this is no problem, I said it over there, and I will also introduce us to the EJ200, after all, this engine has been developed from 85 years to the present, and a large amount of money has been burned into it, and Rolls-Royce has no money on its side, and I am very much looking forward to selling it to make money."

"Really? If we can use this kind of engine, the performance of our aircraft will be even better! ”

"That's nature! The maximum thrust of this engine is 90 kN, the thrust exceeds RD33 by a large section, the weight is light, the volume is still small, the length is less than four meters, the diameter is smaller, stuffed into our body, and it can also reduce the windward area, I estimate that our super seven may fly supersonic speed without even afterburner! ”

"Yes, it should work!"

"The only problem, though, is that it's expensive, if not more expensive! The problem of this money, let's let Lao Ba worry about it. Qin Feng said: "The specific details, let's talk about it tomorrow, now let's listen to music first, rest and rest, I'm tired." ”

Wait until the music turns on and the whole room goes silent.

Elder Tu asked softly in Qin Feng's ear, "Mr. Qin, can they win the scheme?" ”

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"I guess it's okay, if they don't get it, we'll think of something else."

"When you say that, I'm really interested in those engines."

"Yes, I like it too, but the technical level is too high, and our domestic industrial base is too low to be imitated."

It is impossible for the East to import engines all the time, as long as a few are imported, and the rest rely on imitation, so as to develop in the long run, if you want to imitate, it is easier to imitate the old Maozi engine of five or three thick, and the RD33 engine is actually still the technology of the sixties and seventies, and the black smoke is because of the old annular combustion chamber.

Therefore, their main target is RD33, RB199 three rotors, but not the East can be processed, EJ200 turbine temperature as high as 1750K, their own ten or eight years can not get this material, a simple double-layer plasma deposition thermal barrier coating technology, you have to let yourself ponder for a long time.

Or Lao Maozi's engine is good, the process is simple, five big and three coarse, even if there are technical problems that can't be solved now, in another year or two, what can't be bought, who can't dig it?

Old Maozi didn't know Qin Feng's true intentions, and at this time, they were a little worried.

"No, we can't let the Orientals go, and if they go, then we will lose a good opportunity to make money!" Starov was the first to get anxious.

The Red Empire has come to an end, the country is short of supplies, people have to queue for a long time every day to buy bread, and some privileged classes can use the power in their hands to make a lot of money, and every factory and design office needs to find a way to make money.

If they take this train from the East, then their Klimov Design Bureau will be able to live better, they cannot give up this opportunity!

The Mikoyan Design Bureau also did not want to give up this opportunity, although they could sell the MiG-29, but those were sold by the state, and they themselves could not get any benefits, they just produced aircraft according to the state's plan, and wanted to make extra money, and now this opportunity is not easy to come by.

"Notify the relevant departments and refuse their route applications, so that they can't fly." Beryakov said.

"But you can't keep refusing."

"As long as tomorrow they can't fly, and then, we will continue to talk tomorrow, and we will take out project 33, and the Orientals will definitely be tempted."

The Mikoyan Design Bureau not only designed the MiG-29, they also paid attention to the fact that the MiG-21 fighters in many countries around the world would be phased out in the future, but the customer did not have the funds to purchase the more expensive MiG-29, so the customer needed a single-engine light fighter.

In this line of thinking, the Mikoyan Design Bureau came up with Project 33, which is also called the MiG-33, which is easy to be confused with the later MiG-29M, because this product was also renamed MiG-33.

This project uses an RD33 engine with a maximum take-off weight of 12 tons, which looks very similar to the Super 7 project of the East, and is a replacement for the MiG-21.

In short, the Mikoyan Design Bureau is going to be the general contractor, they want to make a lot of money from the hands of the Orientals, and moreover, in this way, the Orientals can sell in the future, and they can also sell this kind of aircraft, which is equivalent to using the hands of the Orientals to build one more aircraft, why not?

A new day came, and in the room, Qin Feng was furious.

"What's going on, why don't you approve our routes? It's too much, it's too much! Hmph, even if we don't fly, we can take other flights, and in the worst case, we can go by boat or car! ”

Knock knock!

"Who?"

"I, Mr. Qin, can we talk again today?"

"Then let's talk here, I don't have time to go to your side, we're still in a hurry...... Travel to go too! ”

"Okay, let's talk about it here. There is a conference room in this hotel, and we go to the conference room to negotiate. ”

"Okay."

In the conference room, Beryakov smiled and walked up to the slide projector and put a slide on it.

"Guys, allow me to introduce you to our top-secret project, code name 33."

"Wait, are we qualified to access this top-secret project? Wait, won't any blue hats come to talk to us? ”

"Of course not. Ladies and gentlemen, this project is the best choice for you. ”

The slide projector lit up, and a special plane appeared in front of everyone's eyes.

On the whole, the aircraft is very similar to the F-16, with edge wings starting from the cockpit and extending to the sharpened main wing, a single engine and a single hanging tail, and an abdominal air intake, the only difference is that the air intake is rectangular, and it is not distinguishable from this alone, some of which are like the Ye-8 technology demonstrator they engaged in on the MiG-21.

"This is a single-engine light fighter, using the RD33 engine, we don't plan to change any attachments to the engine, it can be installed perfectly, and the belly intake has a very good high angle of attack flight ability......"

If Beryakov wants to introduce, he has to listen carefully, although this aircraft is not in service, but it is still the brainchild of the old Maozi designers, since they have done this, then they must have their reasons, and they should be regarded as learning.

Qin Feng didn't bother, he squinted and rested on the side, Tu Lao and they listened carefully, and for a while, the atmosphere was harmonious.

Belyakov spoke for two full hours, explaining the design principles of the entire aircraft in great detail, and they all listened carefully and took a lot of notes.

When he finished speaking, Beryakov looked at everyone: "How do you feel?" As long as you invest, let us get this project 33 out, and we will naturally be able to meet your needs. ”

"Well...... "Mr. Sun looked at Tu Lao, and Tu Lao looked at Qin Feng again.

"Xiao Feng, Xiao Feng, wake up!"

Qin Feng rubbed his eyes: "Finished talking?" ”

"Mr. Qin, you ......" Belyakov was a little dissatisfied, when Yue Moupeng said cross talk, he saw that someone was sleeping in the audience, and he had to wake him up, I said that you sleep with such a nice cross talk, doesn't this affect me?

"Oh, I'm sorry, I was so tired yesterday." Qin Feng's face was full of apologies.

This is not wrong, Belyakov also knows what Qin Feng did yesterday, and he is indeed quite tired.

"It's okay, Mr. Qin, have you just listened to my design plan? If not...... "No, I can't say it again!"

"Chief Master Belyakov, you just spoke very well, very professionally, and very ...... Good, but ......"

Qin Feng paused: "You seem to have misunderstood what we mean, we are here to buy engines, not to fund your Mikoyan Design Bureau to engage in scientific research, we do not have this obligation, let alone this financial resources, Chief Engineer Belyakov, we are poor!" We just want to upgrade the J-7 fighter at the lowest cost. ”

Mr. Sun and Tu Lao both reacted, yes, they were almost bypassed, the other party introduced it for so long, they wanted to let their own side pay for them Mikoyan Design Bureau to build this kind of light aircraft, after it came out, the intellectual property rights are still their Mikoyan Design Bureau, what are we here for?

"We've spent a couple of years and a lot of money on the Super Seven project, and now that the shape is complete, what we need is the engine, and if you're really sincere, change the receiver of the RD33 engine and sell it to us, not sell your aircraft here. This plane must still be on the drawing board, right? It will take hundreds of millions to make it, let alone a few hundred million, we ...... No money! ”

Beryakov was dumbfounded.

Having never engaged in a market economy and having been working under a planned economy, it is difficult for people to have a sense of the market, and Belyakov originally thought that the Oriental would be interested, but he did not expect that it was just his wishful thinking.

"Moreover, this aircraft also has a lot of problems, such as belly air intake, although the performance of the high angle of attack is very good, but can it be suitable for the field airfield of our brothers in Asia, Africa and Latin America? Your MiG-29 has an auxiliary air intake, do you have such an aircraft? ”

"The fuselage is so small, if it is left to you to design, with your avionics level, what extent can the radar installed on the nose of this fuselage reach? Does the whole machine have a 1553B data bus? Can it be used by digital telex? Can the cockpit be leveled three times? ”

Beryakov suddenly found that he himself was powerless to refute!

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