Li Xuan did not refuse, nor did he agree, but said: "The true hero has never been controversial in later generations, and the false hero has not set up a memorial arch is not firm." Because every man has a scale in his heart. The self-proclaimed pillars of the temple always underestimate the people's opinions, but they don't know that the people's judgment of morality and right and wrong is far deeper and simpler than that of the temples. ”

Yan Feiqing did not rush to ask Li Xuandu's answer, but followed his words and said, "I would like to hear it in detail." ”

Li Xuandu raised his hand and said: "I have traveled all the way, from Luzhou to Jingzhou, whether it is the people of Wulin and Jianghu, or the people in the market, they all miss the time when the four ministers were alive. In today's temple, the lord is suspicious, and the queen mother and the king of Jin are in the dynasty to train the government. The King of Jin promoted several examples, and the celebrities were overflowing, and he killed and humiliated his subordinates with suspicion and slander. The Queen Mother Le Xiyuan does not oppose the palace, and extravagantly builds civil engineering. There are many discords between the two, because of the struggle for power, resulting in the discipline of the day, the officials are greedy and weak, the people are not happy, when the flood is drought, the thieves are hot, the enslavement is normal, and the room is like a county. The people have been suffering for a long time, and this is what can be used by the human heart. ”

Yan Feiqing's face became solemn, and he asked, "What does Brother Zifu mean? Could it be that Brother Zifu belongs to the 'pseudo-Zhou' in the northwest?"

Li Xuandu shook his head and said, "Those who know the Great Wei Imperial Court went to Xijing." Those who understand the Great Zhou and stay in the imperial capital. If you know both, you will be hidden in the rivers and lakes, mountains and wilderness, why not? As for those who don't understand either, then they can only be confused in the troubled times, and life and death are fate. Sometimes, who a person admires depends on what he wants to express. Of course, there are such people who believe that the Great Zhou can change the sun and the moon into a new sky, and that the Great Zhou can overthrow the Great Wei court, which has already collapsed. But in reality, most people don't even know who the 'Holy Monarch' is, let alone anyone else. To put it bluntly, because they oppose the current Great Wei court, and they dare not really resist the imperial court, so they respect the Great Zhou, which is opposed to the imperial court. ”

Yan Feiqing stroked his palm and said: "Brother Zifu whips into the inside, so in this way, isn't Zifu a person who respects the Great Zhou?"

"Of course not. Li Xuandu said in an accentuated tone: "The Great Zhou is just a reckless crowd, most of them are ill-intentioned people and ill-minded people, how many of them are for the common people? And how many of them are for the common people in the world? But for their own selfish desires, what is the difference between them and today's Great Wei? Could it be that millions of people died just to become the second Great Wei? There is no such reason. ”

Yan Feiqing's eyes were bright, and his tone was a little more close, "Since the Great Zhou is not enough to save the people of Li, it can only fall into the Great Wei Imperial Court, so according to the Purple Mansion, who in the Great Wei Imperial Court can take on such a great responsibility now?"

Li Xuandu shook his head and said: "I'm not in the temple, and I don't know who can take on such a big responsibility, but I can make it clear that the King of Jin and the Queen Mother will not be the ones who support the Great Wei court, although they are now in power, but without them, there are still people who can replace them, and the Great Wei is still the Great Wei, I say this, can Yan Zhangjiao understand?"

Yan Feiqing nodded, and sighed for a long time: "In the final analysis, we people are also riding donkeys to find horses, and temporarily supporting the King of Jin is just an expedient measure, lest the Queen Mother completely grasp the power of the court, that is an uncontrollable thing." ”

Li Xuandu was silent again.

It would be nonsense to say that he and Yan Feiqing were different from each other, but if they were completely like-minded, it was not necessarily true, there were still many small directions under the general direction of saving the world, these small directions, which seem small now, but after a few hundred years, they will become very large, which makes Li Xuandu inevitably have a lot of worries, and he is unwilling to easily agree to what Yan Feiqing wants.

Yan Feiqing naturally understood this, but still did not rush to ask Li Xuandu, and instead said: "Temples and rivers and lakes are two different things, since the second year of Tianbao, the last thing that Poor Dao wants to talk about is the court, and today I won't talk about temples, only rivers and lakes." ”

Li Xuan didn't speak.

Yan Feiqing said: "If the great trouble of the imperial court is the Northwest Rebellion and the Golden Horde, then what is the big trouble of the rivers and lakes?"

Before Li Xuan could answer, he had already asked himself and answered: "It is the Ten Sects of Evil Dao." It is true that there are indeed people in temperament in the ten sects of the evil path, and there are also despicable people in the twelve sects of the righteous path, but both of them are only a minority, and they cannot be generalized. ”

Li Xuandu nodded.

In all fairness, although Yan Feiqing is the head of the Zhengyi Sect, but this remark about the distinction between good and evil is very pertinent, the so-called righteous and evil way, not to say that he is right and evil, but to be recognized by countless people, as Li Xuandu said, the true hero has never been controversial in later generations, and the false hero has not been firm in setting up the archway, because people have a scale in their hearts. From this point of view, what Yan Feiqing said is good.

Seeing Li Xuandu's approval, Yan Feiqing continued: "The dispute between good and evil has lasted for thousands of years, and there are countless blood feuds among them, and there is no way to resolve them, and only when one party completely dies can it be stopped. Now the five sects in the northwest have risen in Qinzhou, Liangzhou, Shuzhou and other places, and the five sects of Liaodong have left the three states of Liaodong and entered the area of Dijing and Jiangbei, and the original pattern of rivers and lakes no longer exists. ”

Li Xuandu sighed, "The wind rises at the end of Qingping, saying that it is not about temples, but the rivers and lakes are not affected by temples everywhere. A gust of wind blows on the temple, ripples on the rivers and lakes, a cloud accumulates on the temple, the sky is cloudy on the rivers and lakes, a burst of rain falls on the temple, the rivers and lakes are thousands of ripples immediately, and the current chaos in the rivers and lakes is still due to the chaos of the temples in the final analysis. ”

Yan Feiqing looked at Li Xuandu and said word by word: "Brother Zifu's words are correct. The sage said that if you cook a small meal and have clouds to govern a big country, it is not a good look, but it is a good doctor, which shows that the big doctor heals the country, and the small doctor heals the people. But if the headache doctor treats the head and feet with pain and feet, it is to treat the symptoms but not the root cause, and if you want to cure the root cause, you must find the root cause. ”

Li Xuandu raised his head suddenly, his eyes full of surprise, because he thought of two words.

That's what Zhang Suqing wanted to do but couldn't do.

"It seems that Brother Zifu and Poor Dao are in the same way. Yan Feiqing suddenly sensed Li Xuandu's mood, and a heartfelt smile appeared on his face, "If you want to level the world, you want to level the temples first, and if you want to level the temples, you want to level the rivers and lakes first." ”

Li Limit shook his head and said, "It's difficult." ”

Yan Feiqing did not deny it.

The water of the rivers and lakes is bottomless, among which the fish and dragons are mixed, at a glance, it seems that there are only some fish and shrimp wandering, but in the depths of the water, there are dragons entrenched. Throughout the ages, how many heroes and heroes have been heroic, and who does not want to dominate the rivers and lakes? But there are very few things that can really be done, and the simple words "first leveling the rivers and lakes" are easy to say but difficult to do.

Yan Feiqing glanced at Li Xuandu deeply and said, "Today's words, I will only talk about Brother Zifu, and I hope that Brother Zifu will not spread half a sentence." ”

Li Xuandu also had a little more solemn expression and nodded slowly.

Yan Feiqing said slowly: "Now if you want to gather the power of the rivers and lakes, you must first change the rules. Take the Confucian lineage as an analogy, some people say that the rules set by the sage cannot be changed, this is not true, the so-called sage principle moves with the world, in fact, the sage's truth has been changing, after the sage there is a sub-sage, after the sub-sage there is the science of the previous dynasty, and then there is the mind of the current dynasty, they are a supplement to the way of the sage. Since the rules of the saints have been changed, how can we not change the rules of the rivers and lakes?"

Li Xuandu looked at Yan Feiqing in surprise.

He almost thought he had misheard, and he couldn't believe that these words were coming from the mouth of a dignified sect leader.

Yan Feiqing smiled helplessly, "Brother Zifu don't want to look at me like this, with me alone, I would never dare to say such a transgressive word, this is actually what the family teacher said, I just told the truth." ”

Li Xuandu was silent for a long time when he heard this, and sighed: "The Heavenly Master is worthy of the name of the Heavenly Master. ”