At the wine table this time, Fang La and Pang He did not just talk about some household things and trivial matters like last time. Since the two have decided to make a big difference together, it is natural to have some exchanges about future cooperation. Lu Shaoli also participated in it, because his dream, at least his current dream, was to serve Fang La, become an important minister, and even a feudal official.

On the wine table, it was not as dull as last time, everyone said it, naturally, it was not so restrained. Lu Shaoli was very happy, and Pang He decided to stay, so he would have more opportunities to meet him. Over the years, although he has changed a lot, Duo Panghe's appreciation and admiration have not decreased at all, but have become more and more respectful. The overjoyed Lu Shaoli, as the master, spoke first: "Brother Pang, I'm very glad that you can stay and bring a better life to the people of Jiangnan with the sect leader." ”

Pang He said: "Shaoli, I decided to stay because of my personal grudges. As for the people, or maybe I bring harm instead of a happy life. ”

Fang La said: "This is wrong. I know what you mean, but I'm afraid that the imperial court will send troops to fight me. But have you ever thought about the change of dynasties and dynasties, which is not because of the tyranny or incompetence of the dynasty? Who wants to carry their head on the waistband of their pants and gamble on whether they will be alive or die tomorrow. That's something that can't be helped, just like our side, why do you want to revolt, it's not because of today's court, traitorous ministers are in charge, and the people are complaining. If I let it go and everyone is indifferent, what will become of the people's lives? Even the people know that if they don't fight for it, they will only die in poverty. People, living is nothing more than for that mouthful of food, if you can't even eat a mouthful of food, then how can you still live?"

Lu Shaoli said: "Yes, Brother Pang, don't you know, Huaiyin City at that time was oppressed by those dog officials so inhumanely, few people could eat, let alone others." They act as a prestige themselves, and when they are not happy, they fight and fight without regard to the lives of the people. ”

Pang He said: "What you said, I all know, Jiangnan is like this, is it good in the north? I'm just worried that Cai Jing will target me and bring disaster to Huaiyin in advance." ”

Fang La said: "I know your concerns, but these are also coming sooner or later, we have to face them, you are right, maybe it will be in advance, so what." I believe that as long as you are there, we will be better able to defeat them. I also believe that the people of Huaiyin will also be able to understand and understand, and will fight with us to resist the attack!"

Pang He said: "That being said, we also need to be prepared to a certain extent. Judging from the current Huaiyin City, the imperial court will not send troops to come for the time being, but it must not be guarded against. We can first consider making weapons, hoarding grain and grass, and when necessary, we can make some firearms, which will have unexpected effects. ”

Fang La agreed: "Yes, the lethality of firearms is huge, compared to bows and arrows, it is really a world of difference. For falling rocks and rolling logs, firearms are easy to carry, and they are very good weapons for defending the city. Unfortunately, I don't have a person who can make firearms, and I don't know if you can make firearms. ”

For the people of the future, Pang He, of course, until the firearm is nothing more than gunpowder production, the basic ingredients, are known, but if you really want to make it, you still need to experiment. Pang He said: "I know a thing or two about this, you can give it a try!"

Fang La said: "That's great, this matter will be handled by you, I believe that with firearms, if they want to attack Huaiyin City, it will definitely be difficult." ”

Pang He said: "That's right, Huaiyin also needs to develop, attract the surrounding people, arrange housing and fertile land for the people, and give them basic living conditions." In this way, we can make a fuss about the hearts of the people and achieve the goal of surrendering the army without a fight. ”

Fang La laughed: "The heroes see the same thing, as long as we win over the people's hearts, then their military morale will also be affected, and they are indeed soldiers who surrender without a fight." In your opinion, there is a good idea to speed up the introduction of the people of nearby towns to Huaiyin City. ”

Pang He said: "The people, they need a process of acceptance, this matter, we can't be in a hurry, we can do it quietly, so that the officials of the court will lose a large number of people unconsciously." If they don't pay attention to the army, we can also slowly co-opt the people in their army. ”

Fang La said: "Well, your idea, I agree. Then in your opinion, how should Huaiyin City develop in the future?"

Pang He said: "First of all, Huaiyin's geographical location is destined for him to face the army of the imperial court, that is, sooner or later we will have to fight against the imperial court here." Secondly, if we want to go north, we can't start from Huaiyin, whether it is supplies or the front, it is not suitable. It is better to rely on Jinling and take Xuzhou as the main strategic place, so that it will be easy to go north. However, if we want to go north, we still need to overcome many problems, both financially and tactically, which are not what we can consider at present. Also, there are many generals in the imperial court who can fight well, and it is unlikely that we want to bargain a lot from them. ”

Fang La said: "Natian Hu and Wang Qing, can we unite them and fight against the imperial court together." ”

Pang He shook his head and said, "These two people, who are completely a mountain king, if they want to unite with us, they will only work superficially at most. I think they can take advantage of it, but they can't get along. Compared to us, they are closer to Bianjing. If we want to stabilize the situation, we can let the imperial court eliminate the two of them first, so that we will have a great chance to breathe. ”

Fang La said: "These two people are indeed not gentlemen, but there are also many capable people and fierce generals under their command, and it is a pity that they cannot be used by me." ”

Pang He said: "In this world, there are many capable people, and they don't care about so few. There is a way that is different and does not conspire with each other, so don't dwell on these. ”

Fang La sighed and said, "I'm just a pity!"

Pang He said: "Cai Jing and Gao Yu are also talents, but it's a pity that their talents can't be used in the right place." In addition, if Song Jiang can figure it out and form a north-south connection with us, then the imperial court will have to suffer a lot. It's a pity that Song Jiang can't figure it out, and when the time comes, I'm afraid that he will die. ”

Fang La said: "Yes, I don't understand why Song Jiang did this, now that the imperial court is like this, he is still fantasizing about what the imperial court can bring him, and even attack his own brother." ”

Pang He also sighed: "Perhaps, it's just for his own simple ideal!"