Duan Hongyu said: "I didn't expect Mr. Shangguan to be so superstitious about force!"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "It's not that I'm superstitious about force, but force is the most effective way to solve problems, and if force can't solve the problem, it is impossible to use any other method to work." Pen @ fun @ pavilion wWw. ｂｉｑUｇE。 ｉｎｆｏ”

Duan Hongyu said: "Yuan Chonghuan also established a powerful Guanning army, but in the end it failed. ”

Shangguan Jinpeng shook his head and said: "Yuan Chonghuan's construction of Guan Ningjun is just a headache and a foot pain, and Daming has not raised this matter to the height of the national policy, and it will not last long after all." The martial arts we preach are not only a means to an end, but also an end in itself, or even a belief. It is certain that even if the current Guanning army can defeat the Qing army, it will still collapse within 50 years. This army can only make the Ming Dynasty survive for a few more years, and it will be difficult to save the fate of destruction after all. Only by building the country with the military can we finally solve the problem of the abolition of China's martial arts. In addition, Yuan Chonghuan is loyal and commendable, but he is not really handsome! Without him, the Ming Dynasty will only die faster!"

Duan Hongyu asked, "How can you see it?"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "Yuan Chonghuan is a general, not a handsome talent. If he fights a skirmish, few of his opponents will be his opponents, but once it rises to the national level of Armageddon, he will not be able to control his own destiny. Take the Battle of Ningyuan as an example, that battlefield can be said to belong to Yuan Chonghuan, not to mention Nurhachi, even Genghis Khan came, and he had to be defeated at his hands, this is his ability and value, but once he leaves Ningyuan City, let him guard the entire Liaodong, and even the safety of the entire country, it will be a huge disaster!"

Duan Hongyu said: "Yuan Chonghuan can defeat Nurhachi and defend Gucheng, he is indeed a generation of famous generals!"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "Of course, he is a generation of famous generals, and he can also be said to be one of the most outstanding generals of my Ming Dynasty, at least so far no one can compare with him." However, the use of this person must be controlled, otherwise, it is this person who makes meritorious deeds, and it is also this person who does bad things. Yuan Chonghuan's biggest mistake was to build the Ningjin defense line, which consumed a large amount of silver in the empire! In fact, it was enough for China to have a defense line on the Great Wall, and there was no need to spend such huge manpower and material resources outside the Great Wall to build another defense line. Just imagine, if this line of defense can block the Qing army, Shanhaiguan will definitely be able to block it, and it is useless to repair it. If it can't stop the Qing army at all, it's even more useless to repair it. Whether it can block the Qing army or not, it is a redundant line of defense. If the imperial court feels that Shanhaiguan is not safe, it can strengthen Shanhaiguan, or build a defense line behind Shanhaiguan, and build a defense line in front of Shanhaiguan, which is really self-defeating!"

Duan Hongyu said: "From today's point of view, this line of defense definitely has not played any role!"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "Yes! After a series of defeats outside the pass, the Ming army no longer has the strength to compete with the Qing army, but Yuan Chonghuan does not know the current affairs, and he still fights the Qing army outside the pass. He himself once said that he would 'defend the Qing army' against him, but his measures to build the Ningjin defense line were not defensive warfare, but offensive warfare. The Shanhaiguan and Ningjin defense lines cannot simply be regarded as two lines of defense, but represent two military strategies. If Yuan Chonghuan runs Shanhaiguan wholeheartedly, he will adopt a strategy of active defense. Using the manpower and material resources to build the Ningjin defense line to build a field army, within 20 years, the Ming Dynasty can regain its strength. But he blindly attacked, raised the striker to the front line of Jinzhou, and finally suffered a big defeat. ”

Duan Hongyu said: "The Ningjin defense line has dragged down the Qing army, but it has also played a certain role!"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "Despite this, the Ming Dynasty's already weak military strength was scattered in several isolated strongholds such as Jinzhou, Ningyuan, and Shanhaiguan, and in fact, it has made a major mistake of dispersing troops. Back then, the Battle of Salhu was defeated because of Yang Hao's dispersion of troops, but he didn't expect Yuan Chonghuan to make the same mistake. Just imagine, a few small isolated cities can block the Qing army, if the heavy troops are stationed at Shanhaiguan, the Qing army will never be able to bargain!"

Duan Hongyu said: "Yuan Chonghuan has also extended the territory of the empire by doing this!"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "The western Liaoning region has been war-torn for a long time, and what is gained is not enough to consume, so it is of little value in our country. The confrontation between the two countries is not about the gains and losses of one city or one pool, but about the transformation of the military strength of the two countries. China's military strength is inferior to that of the Qing army, and it is necessary to adopt a defensive strategy, and it is imperative to use the limited time to work hard to change the gap in military strength between the two sides. As long as our military strength grows faster than that of the Qing army, one day we will regain the upper hand, and then we will launch a counteroffensive again, and the lost territory will return to our feet!"

Duan Hongyu said: "Isn't building a strong city a way to change the military strength of both sides?"

Shangguan Jinpeng said: "It's okay, but this kind of power is only a passive force, if you want to really defeat the Qing army, you must rely on attack, and the attack requires a strong field army, and sadly, we have never established such a military force, and throw all the silver on the wall that is insignificant to the enemy." The most terrible thing about this kind of fortification outside the pass is that it is easy to be besieged by the enemy. In the Battle of Songjin, Hong Chengchou led 130,000 elites to be wiped out by Huang Taiji in Songshan, which can be said to be the result of this disaster defense line. Just imagine, if the Ming army stationed all its military forces in the mountains, seas and mountains, and could attack and retreat, the Qing army would have no chance to encircle it at all, and could only attack by force. Shanhaiguan and Jingshi are close at hand, even if the Qing army bypasses Shanhaiguan, the Ming army can calmly come back to the rescue and fight a decisive battle with the Qing army in the pass. It can be said with certainty that the Ming army was at an all-round disadvantage in a decisive battle with the Qing army outside the Guan, regardless of the time, location, or people, while in the decisive battle inside the Guan, all kinds of favorable conditions were on our side. If there is a 30% chance of winning a decisive battle outside the Guan, there is a 50% chance of winning the decisive battle inside the Guan. It is a pity that it was because of the Ningjin defense line that the Ming army had to take a huge risk to get out of the pass and start a life-and-death decisive battle with the Qing army, and finally suffered a great defeat. ”

Duan Hongyu said: "Fighting inside and outside the pass, the morale of the army is completely different. Fighting outside the pass, because there is still a way to retreat, because the soldiers lack the courage to fight to the death, they all want to run back to Shanhaiguan, as long as they encounter a slight setback, they will incur a great defeat. In the Guannai, it is different, the Beijing division is behind him, and our army has no way to retreat, only to sacrifice his life to fight. During the reign of Emperor Yingzong of the Ming Dynasty, the Ming army went out of the Great Wall to fight the Mongols, and as a result, they lost more than 500,000 elite troops. But under the city of Beijing, Yu Qian repelled the powerful Mongol iron cavalry with only a few remnants, which is the best proof!"