Chapter 161 The god of heaven uses it as a tool
The Wind Gentleman's divine thoughts are obviously aggressive - Guoguo is no longer a plant or tree, if you still use her as a plant and tree, then even if you become an immortal in the future, you will still treat you as a human being. 【】Guoguo is now the same as us, and the subjects are all "people". If people only take things and hurt each other, they must also forcibly use harmless people, and even animals are not as good as harming them! It is self-destruction in a broad sense.
Fruit can be injured because of its material use, which is a condition that occurs in the human world, but practitioners cannot do this. It's true that someone is in hell, but you can't think that someone else is hell. Otherwise, what kind of cultivation are you talking about? It is better to go to the secular jungle and fend for oneself and perish for eternity, and reincarnate forever! Finally, Feng Junzi expressed his understanding of the relevant objects and the Tao -- the appearance of today's fruit is the Yue that you and I will look for tomorrow.
The Wind Gentleman's reply message came with the divine thoughts, of course, not as rude as I had relayed, but from the message he expressed, everyone felt anger. Fortunately, the means of communication are special, otherwise it would have really become a confrontation between the two. Everyone can see that these two people are indeed the masters of the world. Because they are not philosophers and practitioners, the problems they face are all the realms they have experienced in their practical practice, not their unwarranted fantasies. Moreover, you can also hear that the perceptions of these two people's cultivation are very similar, but there are great differences in the specific application. What's even more interesting is that they have all reached a very high level, and each of them has great magical powers.
Just now, Qiye replied, "What is a spirit?" and everyone's reaction was admiration, and the wind gentleman replied this time, "What is a thing?" More people's reactions can be described as shock. This information is something that some people have never heard of before, and some people are puzzled, and some people seem to have woken up. Then it was the turn of the Wind Gentleman to ask the second question.
Feng Junzi eased his emotions for a while, and after his expression returned to calm, he raised his brows and asked, "What is a god?"
He asked strangely. Picking up Qiye's last question, I guess he would ask what is the use, how did he come up with a sentence, what is a god? And this sentence is said to be an ordinary three words, no god pronounces.
Qiye's reaction was also different from just now, and he replied almost immediately without thinking: "The user is God." ”
Hearing Qiyedi's answer, I suddenly realized that although the two had differences, they also had a tacit understanding on occasions like the Dharma Acting Conference. This question and answer can be said to be heart-to-heart, connected before and after, and the exit is as if it has been prepared for a long time. Qiye knew that the wind gentleman had this question, and the wind gentleman also knew that the wind gentleman had this answer, which was the place where the two of them had the same perception of the "Tao".
Really. After Qiye answered, the thoughts of the two of them reached everyone's minds. The information contained in this divine thought is combined into one, and it is difficult to say whether it is the perception of the seven leaves or the question of the wind gentleman. The confluence of divine thoughts is also an unwritten rule among practitioners when discussing the Tao in public.
Of course, we should pay attention to seeking common ground while reserving differences, not only two people quarreling with each other, but also the intentions of other people present. That's the theme of the Dharma. Therefore, no matter how the two of them confront each other and debate, they must also express some common feelings. Often, this happens when the last question and answer at the end of the discourse is polite and a sign of the end.
However, the debate between the Wind Gentleman and the Seven Leaves is obviously not over yet, and what they want to talk about is "material use". It's definitely not finished. But he put the question and answer in the middle of the mind of God. "What is God?", "The user is God." With these two words, I can't describe it, but I can express it similarly with my own feelings
Both of them expressed "the heart of heaven is free" and affirmed that "all things have gods". It's an interesting way to put it. The world often says that "all things have spirits", but these two masters say that "all things have gods". Where is the God of all things?
On the way to chase and kill, I once saw the rock paintings of Helan Mountain Yin Pass, and I felt an ancient atmosphere on it, and in a trance, I seemed to be able to have a strange spiritual communication with people thousands of years ago. It is the remnants of ancient shamanic sacrifices. Shamans resemble witches in many ways, worshipping all things in heaven and earth, and using artistic techniques to depict various abstract totems, giving the meaning of "gods". This kind of pictorial totem worship is a fixed pattern in every origin of human civilization, why?
On the one hand, it is reverence, and on the other hand, it is also because all things give "me" a "use". This concept of "use" is more than just usefulness. Rather, it is the inevitable influence of all the object environment on the subject. It is under these influences that people have been looking for a more perfect way of being, and they have also tried to communicate with the original force behind all things, so that there is the most simple "god". If you go back all the way back to the origins of your practice today, you can find traces here.
The meaning of all things to man is not the material itself, but the use of the instrument. Just like what is said in "Lao Tzu": "Thirty spokes and a hub should be used for no car." 埏埴 thought that it was useless when it did not have a device. Therefore, the true origin of the god of all things is not mythology, supernatural powers, or gods, but instrumentality, or the "meaning" of an object to the subject.
Feng Junzi and Qiye are talking about "material use" today, which expresses their common understanding of the way of "material use". Moreover, the concepts of life, spirit, and matter in the previous three questions and answers are cleverly connected. Everyone present sighed with emotion, and even Shouzheng Zhenren and Geju Jizan Living Buddha were nodding slightly. This question and answer have been completed, and it is the turn of Qiye to ask the third question.
Qiye stood up again at this time, took out Cheng Fengjie, held his hands diagonally in front of his chest, and said, "The third question is also the last question I have discussed today. Many of the people present were a little surprised, could it be that he was going to finish the question? Some of the junior disciples even felt excited, because after the question was over, they were going to really start fighting. I also frowned slightly, Qiye said that this is the last question, then the wind gentleman is also left to ask the last question, this third mutual confrontation, I always feel that there is something to live. What happened next was exactly what I expected!
Nanaba: "What's the use?"
With the exit of this sentence, the divine thoughts of Qiye were obviously different from just now! There was a vast momentum that swept towards the Wind Gentleman, with a fierce coercive momentum. This is the highest level of spiritual power I have ever seen, and Qiye obviously not only has to communicate with divine thoughts, but also fights with divine thoughts. If the Wind Gentleman wants to answer now, it is not just a battle of words, but also a battle of mana. Otherwise, the power in the Seven Leaves Divine Mind would be suppressed, and he would not be able to speak at all. The wind gentleman must not only speak to words, but also break the law.
The fierce spiritual coercion was only exerted on the Wind Gentleman alone, and at the same time, Qiye still used his divine thoughts to show the other people in the field the message he wanted to express in this question
All things in heaven and earth are "users are gods", so the meaning of the existence of all things lies in the use of instruments. No matter what kind of race, there are laws of existence and destruction, and cultivation is to find the original power behind these laws and master it, which is the greatest tool in the world. Whether it is the laws of the world, or the precepts of the world, or the laws of the earth, even the rules of heaven. It's all for better use. Because the unreasonable demand will damage the heaven and the loss of the device.
So, in the same way, when the precepts themselves limit their usefulness, the precepts have to be changed. Since it is not harmful, you can use the cultivator's supernatural powers. and do useful things in the world. As long as there is no harm to the world, to heaven and earth, there should be no restraint of hands and feet. In practice, people should also let go of the rivers and lakes, and use their supernatural powers in the world to let others use them, so that they can gain something. The first two of the three precepts can be left untouched. But the last precept - not to use the Tao for personal use in the world, should be cultivated.
It's a good seven leaves to finally say what he wants to say.。 And it is recited in God in the Word. He was very smart, and he chose the topic of "material use" to have this opportunity to speak. The rule of asking questions is not to distinguish between high and low, but also to put aside right and wrong for the time being, and only think about the right and negative aspects around the "Tao". Therefore, although his words are not in line with Taoism, others can't say anything, and they can't hold him accountable afterwards. As long as the influence is created, the purpose of creating seven leaves will be achieved. Everyone in the world will know that Qiye not only opens another sect, but also has the meaning of establishing another sect. Haven't the scattered people or scum disciples who have this mind come to the Hainan faction?
He used his divine thoughts to attack and force the Wind Gentleman to make him difficult to answer. As long as the Wind Gentleman's mind is slightly scattered, he can't refute it, then there are many people present, and his mind will be shaken with Qiye. Discuss the Tao first, and then fight the law, in fact, before the Tao is finished, the fighting method has already begun.
Qiye's words came out, and Shen Nian also went out. But he still stood there with the Wind Festival in his hand, and the mighty mental pressure was like the Nine Heavens Gang, and the wind did not disperse, still condensed into a sharp coercion, forcing the Wind Gentleman.
The Wind Gentleman's face was expressionless, and there was even a hint of mockery in his eyes. He handed Hei Ruyi back to Guoguo, took the teapot from Ah You's hand, took a few sips of tea, and smacked his lips. It seems that there is no reaction under the pressure of Qiye's divine thoughts.
After drinking the tea, Feng Junzi took it again, and Hei Ruyi also stood up and drank: "Be the one who is used." ”
His words had a great impact, and everyone felt that their eardrums were buzzing. It seemed that this voice also had substance, with countless extremely subtle tremors, and the invisible divine thoughts that Qiye cast at him like a gang wind were all fixed in the air, and then shattered and disappeared like invisible glass. He opened his mouth to break the law, but it was very simple, and he didn't drag the mud and water at all. At the same time, a wave of black Ruyi divine thought came out majestically. The message sent by the Wind Gentleman this time was not very polite, and there was a sharp edge in his thoughts, although it was impossible for the Divine Seal to communicate with him to say foul language, but I could also "translate" it into his usual language
If the precepts prevent you from taking all things and using them, do you have to change them? If I also block your tools, do you have to change them? If you don't give them to you, do you have to change all things? I am not satisfied with practicing the precepts, but I respect and I will maintain them as if I were maintaining my own dignity. Because I know why it exists, you can say it's not, but without it, it's absolutely impossible.
I originally thought that I was discussing with Qiye today, but I didn't expect that it was the God of the West standing opposite! You go to be God, and then create a world, don't stand in front of me and pollute my ears and eyes. If the precepts are not in line with the Tao, I agree to modify them, but I absolutely disagree with the reasons you have said.
First of all, tell me where the supernatural powers come from? The supernatural powers come from the cultivation, and because of the cultivation of the Tao, you have obtained the supernatural powers. That's what you use to practice. Compared to the laity, you have received great benefits, from body to soul, great freedom. If you can exchange worldly selfish interests for Taoist supernatural powers, you can also use Taoist supernatural powers for worldly personal interests. If you can't, you can't do it the other way around!
Heaven and earth are unkind. It refers to the selflessness of heaven and earth, and the selflessness of heaven and earth refers to the fairness of heaven and earth. This is the heart of heaven that I can glimpse. The so-called rebellion against the heavens and the earth is not against the heavens and the earth, but me, because we are not immortal, and we have no supernatural powers. Cultivators have already taken the world's things to the extreme, and even this body cultivation is also borrowed from the aura of heaven and earth and the body of the furnace. When one day it can be used for nothing, it is the day when it is truly immortal. And you're struggling to get to the end. It's just that you're willing to perish. actually turned the heart upside down sentient beings.
In this world, there is no kind of existence in the ants, plants, animals, mountains and rivers that is more noble than the other, and there is no existence that is more free than the other. In the midst of the flood since ancient times. All the masters who think they are holding everything wantonly are in fact dead in their hearts, but they are just slaves of that little bit of pity and delusion. No matter how high your cultivation is, no matter how great your divine powers are, you will never be able to truly attain the Dao. I pity you!
The Wind Gentleman did not answer Nanaba's question directly. And in the divine thoughts, he set off a majestic counterattack. In fact, the question between the two of them at this time was no longer important to them, and it became another competition beyond words. As for whose words are more reasonable, it depends on the original heart of the audience. And they can only try to express their feelings. When the Wind Gentleman said this, everyone present changed color a little. Everyone thinks that although Qiye's divine thoughts just now are not suitable, there is also a little bit of truth. And the counterattack that followed by the Wind Gentleman was indeed more in line with the Great Dao, but the attitude was too fierce on this occasion. But it's no wonder that others took the lead in provoking the gods, and it was Qiye who fought each other.
The Fa performance conference was silent for an instant, and many people didn't even dare to breathe, and the fighting method between the two high-ranking gods had an invisible deterrent power. After the gentleman replied "it should be for use", his expression was also slightly tired, and he seemed to feel a little tired. He had one last question.
The Wind Gentleman took a few deep breaths and waited for a while before calmly asking the last question, "What is cultivation?"
Unexpected. This sentence is close to an ordinary sentence, just a simple divine thought. The divine thought is also a sentence, and it is not uttered with the supernatural power of "witty words, special and extraordinary", only with "sound and hearing wisdom", it is estimated that only 100 of the more than 3,000 people present can "hear". I heard it in my ears, as if I heard the Wind Gentleman ask, and at the same time another sentence sounded in my head.
According to the rules of practitioners, the ultimate question of "what is the way" should not be asked. The cultivator asked "what is cultivation", and he had reached the end of his question, and he no longer needed other divine thoughts as a supplement. This is a very difficult question to answer, almost on the verge of no answer.
Qiye pondered for a long time before replying: "Know where to come from, where to go, where to come, where to go, where to come, where to go, where to come, where to go." For repair!"
I let out a long sigh. The sentence that Qiye replied was the one sent by the Wind Gentleman's divine thoughts just now. He pondered for a long time, but chose to end the discourse in a normal way. In front of the people of the world, Qiye has already said what he should say, and what the wind gentleman should scold has already been scolded. At this moment, both of them suddenly felt that there was no need to be entangled, because it was destined to be fruitless. Therefore, he invariably restrained his temperament and ended it in a way that "does not distinguish between superior and inferior".
The Wind Gentleman asked and gave the answer to Qiye at the same time, I don't know what the intention was? Qiye finally chose the answer given by the Wind Gentleman to answer, I don't know what he thought? For this answer, neither of them gave the information of thinking and understanding in the divine thoughts, it was just a sentence. As for how to understand it, you can only think about it yourself.
There are only twelve sentences in the total of six questions and six answers. It seems simple and clear, but in fact, it is infinitely magical. There is no superfluous explanation for the last question and answer, and everyone is thinking for themselves. Some people are thinking about the meaning of that sentence, and some people are thinking about the intentions of these two people. At this time, Hexi Zhenren came to the stage again, and the gentleman saluted and said, "Please put your eyes on the son." ”
"Dotting" is the last step in a practitioner's discourse. Corresponding to the "dictionary" at the beginning, another person will "put the finishing touch". His rule is to quote a classic of the same origin as the "dictionary" as a general sublimation of this discourse, and try to leave room for afterglow in the artistic conception. Qiye uses the dictionary to quote "Zhuangzi", so when the gentleman of the wind puts the finishing touch, he must also quote a passage from "Zhuangzi".
The Wind Gentleman stepped forward and bowed to the four circles, and recited with his back hand: "There are gods and men living in the mountain of the Gully Shot. The skin is like ice and snow, and it is like a virgin. Don't eat grains and drink dew...... Ride the clouds and fly the dragon and swim beyond the four seas. Its condensation makes things unblemished and ripe for years. ”
Of course, the passage used by Feng Junzi for the last point is also from "Zhuangzi. The Getaway conforms to the rules of the Treatise. It's just that it seems to be a little biased from the theme of "material use" just now, if it is the afterglow of the sublimation of the realm, it can still be said in the past, in short, it sounds strange to me. For the way of "material use", the two seemingly contradictory words of the god man in the text, "not eating grains", but making "the grains ripe", are profound and worth considering. I'm afraid that's the intention of the Wind Gentleman to quote this paragraph, right?
When I heard this, I didn't think of the seven leaves who were arguing with the Wind Gentleman, but the Tianyue Master who was far away in the Palace of Forgetfulness on the Three Dreams Peak. Although I have never seen Tianyue, I feel that this god in "Zhuangzi" is very similar to Tianyue. The Tao of the Wind Gentleman was passed down from Master Tianyue, who mentioned that Tianyue was always called a fairy. Maybe today's discussion with Qiye is in the end, and the wind gentleman himself is also thinking, and naturally thinks of the master of the Forgetful Palace who is in the realm of cultivation.
After the wind gentleman finished speaking, he sat back in the chair, and Qiye also sat back. He Xi said in the audience: "The head of Hainan, Qiye and the loveless son Fengjun, talk about the Dao and our comprehension of the realm of the Great Dao. The so-called wisdom and wisdom are interconnected, and I hope you will take its essence and use it. He Xi is here to thank you for all your colleagues in the world!"
He Xi's words were polite and peaceful, and he didn't make any comments on what Feng Junzi and Qiye said just now, and in fact, they weren't very good at it. He was also vaguely reminding the junior disciples present. -- What you just heard is not necessarily the true Heavenly Heart Dao, but it is just the thinking of the world's masters, and you should make good use of its essence. After saying this, he looked at Feng Junzi and then at Qiye Palm, stretched out his right arm upward, made a "please" gesture, and asked: "Next will be the ** event of this Law Acting Conference, and the two masters will appear to fight the law." ...... May I ask what rules will be set for the two of you in this fight? He Xi reminded that fighting at the performance conference is just a demonstration for fellow practitioners, and they can't hurt each other, and they don't have to distinguish the winner or loser. ”
Everyone knew these rules, but He Xi saw that the two of them almost didn't touch the sky full of sparks when they were talking just now, so he couldn't help but remind him more.
Feng Junzi replied, "Thank you Hexi Zhenren for reminding me that of course I won't do that bad thing." ...... Qiye is in charge, you are the younger generation, the rules are still up to you. As long as it doesn't detract from the fun of the conference, I don't have a problem with that. Since it's the finale with the fighting method, I think it's better to be as lively as possible. What about your opinion?"
Qiye replied from afar: "Since the predecessor has spoken, Qiye has the courage to set certain rules." A few months ago, the younger generation saw the magic of the Taoism of the predecessors in the floating valley under the Three Dreams Peak, and only hated that there was no opportunity to be taught in person, and today I can finally fulfill my wish, which is a great blessing for Qiye. I think it's according to the rules of fighting outside the Palace of Forgetfulness that day - don't hurt a person, don't destroy a single grass or tree here. As for the rest, how about you and me?"