Chapter 300: Isn't That Enough
Sure enough, as the legend in the outside world, after only a few minutes of conversation, Lao Duan's ruffian nature was exposed, this kind of dialogue that directly embarrassed the other party, Lao Li was still the first time to encounter it, fortunately, he had an exchange with Guan Yuntian before, and got the full support of Changda Group, so that Lao Li was full of confidence, otherwise, Lao Duan's aggressive momentum, as the chairman of the board of supervisors, Lao Li, was really a little afraid.
In the face of Lao Duan's arrogance and unreasonableness, Lao Li said unhurriedly: "Why does Mr. Duan say so absolutely? Who the financial department listens to depends on who is reasonable, and they will not do anything that violates the regulations, because it is a crime." ”
"What kind of law do you commit? Don't go online with me at every turn, isn't it just a little daily expense?
"What law? Have you not heard of the Enterprise Law? All listed companies, including regular joint-stock enterprises, must abide by all the rules and regulations stipulated in the Enterprise Law; as a chairman of the board of directors and an executive of an enterprise, if you do not take the interests of the shareholders of the enterprise seriously and wantonly encroach on the interests of the shareholders, it will be an illegal act, and if the financial department does not pay attention to principles, it will become an accomplice to the crime and the crime! I may not sound good when I say this, but there is no problem with the meaning at all. ”
"Don't be sensational here! A little daily entertainment, you have committed a crime with me, you treat me like a three-year-old?"
"Mr. Duan, I say in general terms, you may not be convinced, then I will give you a specific example, for example, the hospitality expenses of relatives and friends from your hometown are unreasonable expenses, if they enter the company's financial accounts, once or twice, it is a violation, if it is like this for a long time, the nature will become an illegal act. ”
"How can this really be reasonable! I am the chairman of a listed company, and I don't have the right to entertain relatives and friends for a meal?" said Lao Duan angrily.
"We have no right to make irresponsible remarks about your hospitality to relatives and friends, but according to the company law and the articles of association, the expenses for entertaining relatives and friends should be paid out of your own pocket, not entered into the financial accounts of the enterprise! If you make a note with the financial department and deduct these entertainment expenses from the year-end dividends in the future, it is reasonable, that is, you cannot let other shareholders share them for you. Lao Li said unhurriedly.
Lao Duan's former Fengyuan Mining Company is his own enterprise, there is no unit and individual, all the expenses incurred by the enterprise are an account, he has long been accustomed to that kind of management model, for the current formal and scientific management of listed companies, Lao Duan feels that it is in the way, very uncomfortable.
"Chairman of the Board of Supervisors, according to your statement, if I want to entertain a relative, friend or client, do I have to ask you for instructions first?" said Lao Duan angrily.
"Mr. Duan, you are the chairman of the board of directors, the chief executive of the enterprise, as long as it is within the scope of the rules, let alone entertaining relatives, friends and customers, even if anything else, you have the right to decide independently, and it has nothing to do with our board of supervisors. Lao Li said.
"Then what does your board of supervisors do? Are you only responsible for finding fault with my work on the side?" Lao Duan was not enthusiastic about the establishment of a board of supervisors.
Mr. Duan, the function of the board of supervisors is to supervise the operation and management of the enterprise, with the purpose of safeguarding the interests of the majority of shareholders and ensuring that the operation and management of the enterprise are carried out within the scope permitted by laws and regulations and the articles of association. Our job is not to create obstacles to the management of the company, but to avoid the occurrence of violations, or after the occurrence of violations
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to supervise the correction of enterprise managers. ”
"Turning things upside down, nagging, in the final analysis, isn't it still picking my nose and eyes at my work? Your actions like this have tied my hands and feet, making it impossible for people to work!" After a few words, Lao Duan twisted his head to the side.
"It seems that no matter how I explain it, Mr. Duan won't listen to it, or he doesn't plan to listen to it at all. In this case, I would like to tell Mr. Duan that no matter whether you are willing to accept the supervision of the board of supervisors, you have and are and will incur expenses in the future, if they meet the regulations, there is no problem with the financial accounting, but for the entertainment expenses that exceed the standard and do not meet the regulations, the company's financial department will give you a separate account, which will be deducted from your dividends in the future. The chairman of the supervisory board told the other party solemnly and clearly.
"Do you think finance can do that? Do they listen to you or to me?"
"Mr. Duan may not know that the staff of the financial department of the listed company, unlike the people in Fengyuan Mining Company before you, the staff recruited here not only has a high level of business, but also has a strong sense of the rule of law, they know what compliance is, what is a violation, in fact, some of the problems I talked to you about today are reflected by the financial department. Taking a step back, even if they listen to you and break the law with you, can they afford the cost of violating the rules? You don't care, they don't have the guts. ”
"You keep saying that you have violated the law here, I want to know, even if I do that, what can you do with the board of supervisors?" said Lao Duan smugly and deliberately provocatively.
"I want you to correct your mistakes today, if Mr. Duan doesn't listen to the advice and insists on going his own way, we are not helpless. ”
Lao Duan smiled contemptuously, "Let's hear it, let me open my eyes." ”
"Since Mr. Duan doubts our ability, then I will show you the amount of hole cards. First of all, at the last shareholders' meeting, someone had already put forward a similar proposal, and the other shareholders only needed to partially unite, and they could easily exceed the shareholding ratio of your Fengyuan Mining Company, and then you, the chairman, would have to step down automatically. You should know that the equity of our Xinrui Pharmaceutical is more than 10%, but we focus on our own pharmaceutical business, and we are not willing to worry about it, and we are not willing to change the management of listed companies frequently, so I advise you to take it easy and do it yourself. This is one of our hole cards. ”
"What other hole cards are there? ”
"Of course, your violation has harmed the interests of other shareholders and violated the enterprise law, if you refuse to correct and insist on going your own way, the board of supervisors can completely initiate judicial proceedings against you, and, because the facts are clear, if you really want to go to court, you will definitely lose!"
"Anything else?" Old Duan glanced at him.
"Isn't that enough? I think either of these two methods can easily bring you down and make you pay, but I think judicial proceedings are more convenient, Mr. Duan, what do you think?" This time it was Lao Li's turn to twist his face to the side.
Seeing that the other party was pressing step by step, Lao Duan finally realized the seriousness of the problem, although he was very reluctant, he seemed to plan to restrain himself a little, and was no longer as willful as before, "We are all shareholders of Changda Holdings, and we can be regarded as colleagues, why make the problem so complicated, isn't it just daily expenses?
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What's wrong?"
Lao Li turned his face, "Mr. Duan, you said that a long time ago, why did we bother to talk so much? A matter of a few words, a stalemate for a long time, is not worth it at all! You and I have never known each other, think about it, can I specifically target you? But in addition to the problem of the company's daily expenses, there is one more thing that I came to you today. ”
"What's the matter?" Lao Duan knew that the chairman of the board of supervisors was looking for him, and there was no good thing, so he became vigilant again.
"Didn't I say it when we first met, today I asked you to communicate two things, in addition to the daily expenses, and some time ago the bidding for the procurement of environmental protection equipment, some people reflected that you did something in it. Lao Li was blunt.
"Who is spreading rumors behind my back? What did I do with equipment procurement? Is there any evidence? If I can't produce evidence, I will sue the person who reported the problem for false accusations!" Lao Duan questioned.
"Mr. Duan, don't worry, it's right and wrong, it's not too difficult to investigate things clearly. Before solving this problem, I would like to ask Mr. Duan, has our early environmental protection equipment procurement gone through the bidding process?
"Of course, after the bidding, if you don't believe it, ask the office staff, they also helped with the preparations. ”
"How many bidders are there? Have they fully defended themselves at the bidding meeting? Has Changda Holdings set up a special bidding and evaluation agency? What is the final result? These questions need to be answered by you. ”
was stunned by Lao Li's series of questions, and it took at least three or four minutes before Lao Duan came to his senses, "I remember that there were four or five bidders, and according to their quotations, quality margins, delivery times and other factors, I finally determined the supplier." ”
"That means that you have not fully defended and have not passed the evaluation of the evaluation body, and you have agreed on the supply yourself?"
"I'm not entirely sure, but in fact we also have a four-member judging team, and the other three have also raised opinions besides me, is there anything wrong with that?"
"It seems like no problem, but, as far as I know, the four members of your judging team, including you, are all shareholders of Fengyuan Mining Company, that is, your former subordinates, and they completely listen to you, which is no different from your own decision. Therefore, some people have reported that you are not transparent and unfair in the bidding process of environmental protection equipment procurement process, and it seems that these problems do exist. ”
"I don't understand, what do I need to do with an equipment purchase to be fair and transparent?"
"If you want me to say, there is a problem with your bidding and evaluation team, first of all, the number of people is too small, and in addition, the members are all colleagues of your Fengyuan Mining Company, and they are not representative, and this alone gives people reason to question your impartiality. ”
"So tell me, what needs to be done to be fair and transparent?"
"It's very simple, set up a seven-to-nine-person bidding review team, you can be the leader, but the members must be from other shareholder units other than Fengyuan Mining Company. In the bidding process, each bidder is allowed to fully display its own characteristics and advantages, the evaluation team carefully evaluates each bidder, carefully compares, and then the members of the review team vote by secret ballot, and the winning unit with the most votes is the equipment supplier. Only in this way can we be fair and transparent. ”
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