After listening to Su Yuanshan, there was silence in the living room.

All four of them are experts in the semiconductor industry, and they are not familiar with the communications industry, but they are familiar with data. Hundreds of Mb, the rate of Gb, that is a speed that even the latest PCI bus bandwidth that came out this year can't catch up.

Even the fastest fiber available today is less than 2Gb at speeds.

If it was a different person, the four of them would have said that he was talking nonsense.

But it was Su Yuanshan who said it, and he was doing it, which means that Yuanxin believes it.

This kind of prediction means that Yuanxin can not only foresee the future wireless communication market, but also predict the development of chips and even the entire semiconductor industry.

Far Chip's predictions and plans for the future far exceed the most optimistic estimates in the world, including the West.

(Note: Mr. Zhu Yiwei's "50 Years of Review of the Integrated Circuit Industry" is written in detail, if you are interested, you can take a look, in addition to Mr. Xie Zhifeng's "Core Matter".) The former has a lot of data, and the latter has a lot of stories. There are other storytellers, such as "Core Road", "Chips Change the World", etc., if you are interested, you can also take a look)

After the silence, Zhao Kaidong suddenly smiled and said: "Xiao Su, you know the plan of the '85' plan for the semiconductor industry, right?"

Su Yuanshan nodded: "I've seen it." The main focus is to increase production capacity and expand independent production. ”

"Yes, the current domestic chip production capacity is still less than 1% of the world's total production capacity. Say it...... It's going to make people laugh. Zhao Kaidong is in his early forties, with the unique temperament of a person with a technical background, he paused and continued: "You said before that the lithography machine has entered the I-line era. In fact, we have always had the technology in the light source section. Even if we need a deep ultraviolet laser light source right now, we can do it. ”

"KBBF crystal?" Su Yuanshan asked with a smile.

Zhao Kaidong was slightly stunned, and looked at Su Yuanshan with a little surprise.

He didn't expect Su Yuanshan to have such a deep understanding of the laser field.

Zhao Kaidong was silent for a few seconds, then smiled: "Yes." It is now used in ...... Strong laser above. But as long as there is a demand, there is a way to use it in a lithography machine. ”

Su Yuanshan nodded. He knew that KBBF was potassium fluoroborobellium crystal, and it had only been synthesized for two years, and it was said that this thing was a typical luck - pinching Lao Mei's neck for fifteen years.

As a result of its appearance, domestic laser weapons made great strides, and later realized that it was a key node of laser weapons and banned exports.

Zhao Kaidong continued: "But the lithography machine cannot be brought up by a light source, and the follow-up lens module is the key. And when the light source goes up, the precision of all components has to be upgraded...... The design difficulty has also increased exponentially. ”

Su Yuanshan said with a smile: "That's why I don't consider deep ultraviolet for the time being, take the ultraviolet I line first, if the 0.5 micron process can be completed and the yield is acceptable, then it can be put into the market and can be used for a long time." Then skip KrF and head straight to ArF - will you be able to catch up? At least not as desperately as you are now. ”

"As for the difficulty of design, at the latest by the end of the year, our mechanical CAD will be online, and then the design aspect will be easier. ”

Hearing Su Yuanshan talk about mechanical CAD, everyone's eyes lit up: "Can it be simulated?"

Su Yuanshan couldn't cry or laugh: "...... A few uncles, we are the foundation of the electrical department, and we have always had technical reserves in terms of material and electricity. In addition, under the current manufacturing process, the tunneling effect is not obvious, so the simulation function of the chip can be completed. But mechanically......"

"If you can provide the relevant data and models, you can make it. ”

Now that he has decided to go deep into the field of mechanical CAD, he will definitely go all the way to the dark. Simulation capabilities will definitely be added as well.

However, as he said, the electrical department has no foundation in this area at all. All the data has to be collected from the user – but a lot of the data is central, so how to do it will need to be considered in more detail later.

Su Yuanshan plans to hand over this matter to Xi Xiaoding, he wants to do mathematical software and a laboratory, isn't that what he does?

"The data is fine, we're collecting it all the time. Like structure, frequency, vibration, stress, etc. At this time, Zheng Zhenchuan took over and agreed: "These data can be given to you, but some models have not yet been established, or they have been established, but they have not passed the verification." ”

Su Yuanshan nodded: "Then you send a group of relevant experts upstairs and find Qu Hui directly." ”

"No problem. Zheng Zhenchuan nodded.

After enduring it, Zheng Zhenchuan glanced at the other three, and finally said: "But in this way, the financial pressure will be great." ”

Su Yuanshan was happy in his heart.

Finally, it's time to get to the money.

However, he didn't plan to talk about money today, so he smiled and said, "Won't you get rich if you sell this lithography machine?" Uncle Zhou, do you Huajing buy it?"

Zhou Boguang smiled: "I can't afford it, I can't get the process down now, the yield can't go up, and I lose money every day." ”

"Didn't you say it a long time ago. Su Yuanshan also said with a smile.

Zheng Zhenchuan: "The problem is here, the institute doesn't plan to sell." ”

Su Yuanshan raised his eyebrows!

Facing Su Yuanshan's surprise, Zheng Zhenchuan looked bitter: "The institute believes that this lithography machine is of great significance. At the same time, it can also be used as the basic equipment for other research in the institute, as well as a reference for upgrading the process...... So not going to sell. ”

Su Yuanshan's eyebrows slowly flattened.

This idea of Seikosho...... He could understand that, too. After all, it is a prototype, and there is a blood to coagulate.

But this lithography machine also has Su Yuanshan's hard work.

After pondering for a few seconds, Su Yuanshan looked at Zheng Zhenchuan with a smile: "Uncle Zheng, since the institute is not for sale...... What is the result of the far chip? Until the sufficient process is reached, this type of lithography machine will obviously not be able to be marketed. Even people like me who dare to bet dare not dare that it can achieve process yield, let alone spare parts. ”

The bitterness on Zheng Zhenchuan's face became stronger and stronger: "After acceptance, the state will be rewarded." ”

"How much is the prize?"

"Probably ......" Zheng Zhenchuan's mouth opened, but he couldn't say the number in the end.

He is so familiar with Yuanxin, so he naturally knows that Yuanxin's investment in scientific research is incomparable to the country. Not to mention the systems, chips, circuit boards, and programs designed by the tele-core optical machine.

Yuanxin, a company with strong monetization technology, is not able to design a few chips.

Seeing that Zheng Zhenchuan was speechless for a while, Su Yuanshan could understand why the identities of these people who came with Zheng Zhenchuan were so high-level, but Chengguang only came to Zheng Zhenchuan.

In terms of specifications, Xie Kaiyun is at the same level as the deputy director of Chengguang Institute. And Zheng Zhenchuan is not even a deputy director, just a director, and he is a lower level.

Even if these people engage in scientific research and don't engage in officialdom, they have to be led by a leader at the same level to visit Yuanxin.

The emotion is that the leader of the optical machine institute is embarrassed to see himself.

"Uncle Zheng, since there is a shortage of money in the institute, don't sleep with the results anymore. According to the market price, the price of this lithography machine is 18 million, and the technical achievements of Yuanxin are worth 5 million. ”

"Of the 13 million, you can keep it and turn it into funds - I remember, the overall investment of your lithography machine is less than 10 million, right?"

When he heard that the price was 18 million, Zheng Zhenchuan's spirit was lifted.

The other three were also a little surprised at the same time.

In fact, everyone has considered whether to sell or not - mainly according to the current situation, there is a high probability that this lithography machine will not sell at any price.

Because it is a prototype that cannot be mass-produced, it can only be used for scientific research and the presentation of results.

Especially Yuanxin, at the beginning of the cooperation, it was said that it would be bought, and in addition, COSCO made a great effort in the cooperation, which helped a lot. It's even harder to raise the price.

So simply, Chengguang decided not to sell it, lest he not be able to sell it for a few dollars and be poked in the back.

Anyway, when the time comes, it will be said that it is a national project, and it will not be supported for sale.

But as soon as they heard that Su Yuanshan directly opened the price to foreign equipment with the same process, everyone felt that Su Yuanshan was a little ...... What's that.

"Thirteen million, really?" Zheng Zhenchuan repeated.

"Is there still a fake?" Su Yuanshan said with a smile: "A few uncles, you quickly pass the acceptance, and then blow it hard, and then this lithography machine will be pulled to the high-standard clean room of our science and technology park." ”

"And then we'll talk about cooperation, okay?"