At the end of the three-day visit, the East China government and the revolutionaries officially began talks. On behalf of the East China government, Qin Zheng and Xia Siyan were accompanied, while on the revolutionary side, six delegates attended, after all, it was impossible for everyone to attend such a formal meeting, so the others, including two Japanese, were unable to attend the meeting.

After the two sides met, they sat down separately, and Qin Zheng first said: "A few people have been visiting Qingdao for three days, and they don't know what they think of our Qingdao, so you might as well talk about it." ”

Huang Xing said: "In the past three days, it has indeed opened our eyes, if we Chinese can be as good as the nobles, I am afraid that the day of rise is just around the corner." ”

Qin Zheng smiled and said, "Mr. Huang is too awarded. ”

At this time, Chen Tianhua said: "Speaker Qin, I have a question I want to ask you, and I have it on the first day, I hope Mr. Qin can answer it for me." ”

Qin Zheng said with a smile: "Any question, as long as I can answer it, I will try my best to answer it for Mr. Chen." ”

Chen Tianhua said: "You can build warships, have an army, and have weapons, why don't you immediately raise the flag and revolt and overthrow the Qing court." And with the prestige of the nobles, as long as the banner of righteousness is raised, and the arms are raised, it will be the response of the whole country, and the followers are like clouds, and it is easy to overthrow the Manchu Qing Dynasty. ”

Qin Zheng groaned slightly, and said: "Yes, it's not that I boast, and I don't need the whole country to respond, but with the current strength of our East China government, if we raise the flag to revolt now, it will only take a month at most to attack Beijing and overthrow the Qing court." ”

Chen Tianhua clapped his hands and said: "Okay, since this is the case, why do you still have to deal with the Qing court, you must know that now the Qing court is the first evil in China, and China is so stupid and backward, it is all the fault of the Qing court, as long as the Qing court is not destroyed, China will never have peace." ”

Qin Zheng nodded and said, "I don't know if Mr. Chen has thought about it, after we invade Beijing and overthrow the Qing court, what should we do?"

Chen Tianhua was stunned for a moment, and he couldn't answer for a while, he had always taken the overthrow of the rule of the Qing court as his highest goal, but he never thought about what he would do after overthrowing the Qing court? After a while, Chen Tianhua said: "If the Qing court is overthrown, our China will naturally be at peace in the world, and then we can make every effort to make the country rich and the army strong." ”

Qin Zheng sighed secretly in his heart, in fact, this is also a common problem of revolutionaries in this era, that is, they only think about how to overthrow the Qing court, but they have not thought about what to do after overthrowing the Qing court, in the eyes of revolutionaries, the Qing court is the main culprit of China's backwardness, decay and incompetence, so as long as the Qing court is overthrown, anything can be solved, and China can automatically move towards civilization, civilization, and prosperity.

But Qin Zheng knew that things were not so simple and easy, and there was enough experience in the old time and space to show that the second day of the revolution was the most difficult. The reason why Sun Yat-sen was able to become the revolutionary leader of this era was that he was half a step ahead of ordinary revolutionaries, and he was able to think of what to do after the overthrow of the Qing court and put forward a concept of the Three People's Principles. But it is only half a step ahead, because there is a lack of a comprehensive action plan and objective conditions.

Qin Zheng said: "Mr. Chen, please forgive me, I think you think the problem is too simple, even if we capture Beijing, it is not equivalent to overthrowing the Qing court, after we capture Beijing, there will probably be two situations, one is that the Qing court has fled before we capture Beijing, fled to Shanxi, It is very possible that northern Shaanxi, or even the south, is very likely, because when the Gengzi Kingdom changed, the Qing court did just that, and then the Qing court could call on other local officials to raise the army and fight with us as enemies; second, the Qing court did not have time to flee and was wiped out by us, but the local officials in the south of the Qing court either united to launch a co-master, or each divided one side and became one side. But in either case, foreign powers will inevitably take the opportunity to intervene, either directly by armed force, or even by aggression, or by supporting proxies to do their best, but in any case, China will be plunged into full-blown civil strife. This is probably not the result that Mr. Chen wants to see. ”

Chen Tianhua stayed for a while before he said: "I'm afraid it won't come to this point, now the Manchu Qing Dynasty has already lost the hearts of the people, even if they flee to the south, they may not be able to do much." During the Gengzi Revolution, didn't the local officials in the south make mutual protection in the southeast and no longer obey the orders of the Qing court. ”

Qin Zheng shook his head and said: "It is true that the Qing court has lost the hearts of the people, but the hundred-legged insect is dead but not stiff, the Qing court has been established for more than 260 years, and the remaining power is still there." Although during the Gengzi Revolution, the local officials in the south engaged in a southeast mutual protection, but it was only to avoid the harm of the Boxers, not really rebelled against the Qing court, and after the Qing court fled to Xi'an, local officials sent greetings one after another to show that they still submitted to the Qing court, which shows that the Qing court still has a shadow now, and the local officials may not easily abandon it. ”

Huang Xingdao: "Since you are sure to capture Beijing, even if the Manchu court flees to the south, what is there to fear, you can directly move south and unify the whole country." ”

Qin Zheng said: " I dare to boast that we will conquer Beijing within a month, because Shandong is connected to Hebei and is closer to Beijing, and we still have a place in Tianjin, once launched, it will inevitably be a lightning speed, go straight to Beijing, and a quick victory, and the south is far away from Shandong, and the Yangtze River is divided, so whether the Qing court fled to the south or not, as long as it becomes a situation between the north and the south, it will be a protracted war, and the competition is comprehensive strength, we now only have Shandong, and our East China government has not been established for a long time, and the accumulated materials are limited, and at present we can only control a few provinces in North China at most, and it is not to unify the whole country immediately。 ”

Huang Xing listened, and was silent, after all, he studied military affairs, of course he knew that fighting a war is actually a logistics of fighting, and war is still a competition of comprehensive strength in the final analysis, and now the East China government only occupies the land of Shandong Province, so it is indeed difficult for some strongmen to require them to have the strength to confront the whole country.

At this time, Chen Tianhua said again: "Then when do you plan to raise the flag against the Qing Dynasty?"

Qin Zheng said: "At least there needs to be enough time for development, when our economic strength reaches enough to support the war to unify the whole country." After a pause, Qin Zheng said: "And now that Japan and Russia are at war in the northeast region of our country, the current foreign enemy is not the time for us to launch an uprising." ”

This sentence touched Huang Xing's heart, the reason why he embarked on the road of revolution was because of the Russian invasion of the northeast, he organized the anti-Russian volunteers, and was disbanded by the Chun court, Huang Xingcai was completely disappointed in the Qing court, and instead advocated revolution. And now Russia is still entrenched in the eastern region, and there is another Japan, and the two sides are fighting with the Northeast as the battlefield, and in the end, no matter who wins or loses, the Northeast may be difficult to return to China, so Qin Zheng said that the foreign enemy is current, so Huang Xing feels the same way.

Huang Xing immediately said: "Then you don't know what your plans are for the battle between Japan and Russia for our northeast?"

Qin Zheng said: "The plan is naturally there, I think you have also seen the statement issued by our East China government, and we will definitely do our best to protect the national territory." On the first day of your visit, you saw that the warships that were launched were built by us to deal with the Tohoku situation, and you also saw that there are still many warships under construction, so when we are ready, we will definitely take action. ”

Huang Xingdao: "Two years ago, I had formed an anti-Russian volunteer army because of Russia's occupation of our northeast, and I wanted to go to the northeast to fight a decisive battle with Russia. ”

When Chen Tianhua heard this, he immediately said: "Brother Keqiang (Huang Xingzi Keqiang) If he really forms a volunteer army again, the younger brother is not talented, and he is willing to be the first to sign up." Several other people also expressed their willingness to join the volunteers organized by Huang Xing.

Qin Zheng said with a smile: "Everyone is willing to help, of course we welcome with both hands, together is strong, division is weak, as long as all of us Chinese are united, united as one, united will, there is no invincible enemy." However, although your courage is commendable, war is not a child's play, and it cannot be won with just one blood. Although Mr. Huang has studied military affairs, after all, he has not fought in actual combat, and the others are probably even laymen, so I think that if you really have the heart to contribute to the country and defend the Northeast, you might as well join the People's Army, first receive a period of military training, master certain military skills, and then we will arrange each person's tasks and positions according to their different abilities and specialties. I wonder what you think?"

The others were also thoughtful when they heard it, Huang Xingzhi was quite eager to try, and wanted to agree on the spot, but he thought that he was visiting Qingdao on behalf of Huaxing this time, so he would not go back forever. And there are still many companions waiting for him in Japan, so he is a little hesitant, and the others see that Huang Xing does not express his position, and he does not express his position.

After a while, Huang Xing said: "Speaker Qin, there are many companions in Japan, and they all have the heart to serve the country, so I want to return to Japan first, and after discussing with my companions, I hope to be able to mobilize my companions to serve the noble people together and serve the country together?"

Qin Zheng smiled: "Of course you can, and this is also how it should be, we welcome more revolutionaries to come." And it's going to take some time for us to prepare, so it's still too late, and we're always welcome. ”

At this time, Xu Xilin said: "Speaker Qin, I also heard about the deeds of your people when I was in my hometown, and I admired your feats of defeating the Eight-Nation Alliance, but I also heard that under the rule of your people, all the land will be confiscated, is this true. ”

Qin Zheng nodded and said, "Yes, this is indeed true. ”

Xu Xilin was also a little surprised, because he thought that Qin Zheng would always argue a few words for himself, such as the army needs food and salary, and he can't do anything about it, but he didn't expect that Qin Zheng didn't argue at all, and directly admitted it, so he asked again: "Then why do you want to do this." ”

And the eyes of the others were also focused on Qin Zheng's body, waiting for his answer.