Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "In fact, this is the charm of Peking Opera, because every play is a classic that has been carefully polished by countless predecessors and beaten on the stage countless times, every word, every singing, and every action has been tempered by thousands of times, in fact, this is the charm of stylized art, chewing repeatedly!"

Dou Wentao sighed and said, "Like many young people nowadays, they think that Peking Opera is meaningful, and there is nothing good to listen to, every time it is the same, after I listen to it once, do I have to spend money to listen to other people's singing?"

Pei Yanzhi nodded and said, "That's why we Peking Opera actors have been emphasizing that our Peking Opera has never been about watching operas, we are watching Jiao'er, of course the operas are all the same, at most the words of each genre may be a little different, but what we look at is the demeanor of each Jiao'er during the performance, in fact, some people will say that every time is the same, in fact, this is wrong, even if it is the same actor, every time he is different!"

Dou Wentao asked with some curiosity, "How do you say this!"

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, " Of course, I'm talking about mature actors, students, or those Peking Opera actors who have just debuted are no longer among them, because they are still learning and imitating, of course, every time the probability is the same, but every mature actor, every performance is new, because your daily state will not be the same, your daily mood will not be the same, and the most important thing is that the audience of each show is not the same, and the current actors are better, after all, they are all actors in the system, and the stylization is more serious, his heart is gone all of a sudden, if you should sing eight sentences, he will sing four sentences for you, and he will slide over for you where you should be in tune, why is this happening, I can't do it with you, you don't want to listen to it, then I won't sing it for you, my art is for fans who want to hear it. ”

Hearing Pei Yanzhi's words, not only the two of them were shocked, but even Wang Peiyu's face showed a hint of contemplation.

Dou Wentao said in surprise, "There is such a thing! Are all Peking Opera actors in the past so individual?"

Pei Yanzhi nodded, patted the table, and said, " Yes, Brother Dou, your word is too right, personality, in that era, it was because the Peking Opera actors had personalities, and their personalities were very different, so that the art of Peking Opera would bloom, so many genres, so many masters, like mushrooms after a rain, it was because of the personality of that era, and after the founding of the People's Republic of China, the country set up Peking Opera Theaters in various places, which also had benefits, so that Peking Opera had a root to take root and sprout, but it also made Peking Opera lose so much personality, from the wild growth to flowers in the greenhouse, it is good-looking, but if you are tired of seeing it, one day when the wind and rain come again, the flowers in the greenhouse can not withstand the storm！”

Wang Peiyu nodded and said, "Indeed, as Yan Zhi said, there are few Peking Opera actors today who have particularly prominent personalities, but then again, those Peking Opera masters and Peking Opera masters who are standing at the top of the pyramid in the Peking Opera world, each of them has a very distinct personality, and Yan Zhi should have a deep understanding of this!"

Pei Yanzhi laughed and said, "Yes, others won't say it, just say that I'm a senior sister Susu! I sang a play "Suolin Bag" with her before, this is definitely the ultimate personality!"

Dou Wentao and Ma Weidu are a little curious, what kind of personality is singing "Suolin Bag"!

Wang Peiyu explained on the side, "The play "Suo Lin Bag" is the representative work of the Cheng School, and apart from the Cheng School, basically no other genre will sing this play!"

Dou Wentao asked with some curiosity, "What is this for, is there still such a saying in the Peking Opera industry?"

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "There are no such rules, and there are no such unspoken rules, simply because this drama has been performed to the extreme by the Cheng School, and this play is specially written for the Cheng School, you can't change it casually, just like changing those plays that have been passed down for a long time, and the lyrics of this play are very suitable for the singing voice of the Cheng School, and other genres are somewhat uncomfortable to sing, so there are basically no other genres to sing for so many years, and it is thankless!"

Wang Peiyu pursed her lips and smiled, and said, "But Su Tuan dared to sing this play, at that time, when the news was published in the media, I thought it was a prank, but I didn't expect it to be true, and the response at that time was not bad, Su Tuan really opened a precedent in the Peking Opera industry!"

Dou Wentao nodded and said admiringly, "This is really powerful!"

Pei Yanzhi pondered for a moment and said, "Now that our Peking Opera is in decline, there is actually still some relationship with ticket holders!"

When the three of them heard this, they were also very interested, and they looked like they were willing to hear about it.

Because Pei Yanzhi has experienced the era of the Republic of China, he knows too well how huge the gap between the ticket groups is in these two eras.

Pei Yanzhi said, "The group of ticket holders is actually a group that can improve the culture, temperament, and grade of Peking Opera, because as we said just now, most of the Peking Opera performers do not have such a high level of education, and they do not have the ability to improve the artistic value of Peking Opera through their own level, so they need to have high-level ticket holders to do this." At the beginning, Mr. Mei Lanfang was surrounded by Mr. Qi Rushan, Mr. Yu Shuyan was accompanied by Mr. Zhang Boju, Mr. Cheng Yanqiu was accompanied by Mr. Luo Gaogong, and those Peking Opera masters would have such a group of great intellectuals around them, and they spared no effort to do Peking Opera art, volunteers and volunteers in the Peking Opera market regardless of remuneration, so Peking Opera flourished in those decades!"

Ma Weidu nodded and said, "That's true, I heard that the people who wrote scripts for Peking Opera actors in the past were all those talented people who didn't meet talents, great intellectuals, so there are so many wonderful repertoire, and now in Peking Opera, I rarely hear these news!"

Pei Yanzhi said, "Don't say anything else, let's talk about Cheng Pai's "Suolin Bag", which is the repertoire created by the famous playwright Weng Duohong personally for Mr. Cheng Yanqiu. ”

Dou Wentao said, " Now these young people, the love of games is much greater than that of Peking Opera, this is understandable, I think this person is nothing more than that, there are many dishes in this world, if your appetite is better, it is your own blessing, the problem is, I want to want to be so good for such a bite, I must also have this keen senses, in fact, I can say that before the age of forty, I don't listen to Peking Opera, I also think Peking Opera babbles, I don't understand, but now I slowly like to listen to it, just like in the past when I was young, I liked to drink Coke, I didn't like to drink water, but I have come to this point, you let me drink Coke, I don't drink it, naturally I started to drink tea, maybe say some things, he may be a metabolism, he is naturally you like it!"

Ma Weidu squinted his eyes and said with a smile, "Yes, I also started to like Peking Opera after I was in my thirties, and some people say, after the age of thirty or forty, you can figure out something from opera!" I once chatted with a few people who like Peking Opera, and I said that I suddenly realized the physical beauty of Peking Opera, why did I do it, I watched a film made by a director in Huaxia back then, and then he gave me that kind of old disc, which was very stuck when it was broadcast, but it was because of the card that he made me discover the greatness of Mr. Mei, because every action of Mr. Mei is the most beautiful shape, Mr. Mei can be said to be performing in the fullest state at every moment, and there will be such a state！”

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, " Mr. Mei Lanfang not only brought a benchmark to our country's Peking Opera art, but also had a huge impact on foreign theater art, which can be said to have contributed to a big revolution in Western theater art, because in the previous Western theater art, the most famous was not the actor, but the director, the screenwriter, but after they saw Mr. Mei Lanfang's performance, there are many Western theater practitioners who think that the actor is the center of everything, and the director and screenwriter have to serve the actors, even now, there are still many theater troupes that do this。 ”

Ma Weidu nodded and said, " Yes, Mr. Mei Lanfang does have a very great influence on Western theater, but I want to say one thing again, that is, the ticket holders I just said, I just said that there are no ticket holders in the West, this statement is not very accurate, but at least there is no opera, but there is such an art, that is, classical music, this is the same as what Yan Zhi just said between the ticket holders and the horns, how the relationship between the ticket holders on this art complements each other, I will give you an example, we all know that Vienna in the nineteenth century was the capital of music, and all the big names of Western classical music were there, but the main reason why Vienna became the capital of music, because it has the largest number of first-class audiences, Liszt on the stage plays the piano, he can't play badly, because everyone in the audience is a connoisseur!"

Pei Yanzhi and Wang Peiyu both laughed, Wang Peiyu said with a smile, "Yes, this is the same as Peking Opera, and there are all ticket holders below, and the corners on your stage must be riveted!"

Ma Weidu said with a smile, "Yes, how good you have to play on stage, I will buy a ticket to see your performance, I think the most glorious era of Peking Opera should be the same, everyone in the audience thinks they can sing two voices, so you can't sing badly on stage!"

Dou Wentao said, "Yes, at least when you sing on stage, the people in the audience are patting their thighs, shaking their heads and singing along, you sing a wrong word, or you sing, and the audience will feel bad in an instant!"

Wang Peiyu nodded and said, "Now in the whole of China, where do you guess the place where you know the most about opera?"

Dou Wentao said, "Isn't it the capital?"

Ma Weidu also had this expression.

However, Wang Peiyu shook her head and said with a smile, "Actually, the one who knows the most about drama is Jinmen!"

Dou Wentao asked with some surprise, "Why is this?"

Wang Peiyu shook her head and said, "I don't know about this, but every time we go to Jinmen to perform, at least the audience sitting at the front knows where to applaud, what to meet, and where to applaud , It's Bao Gong's trial of the black pot, there is a zombie in it, the rhythm of the general zombie is like this, toot tuk, the body falls back, to a certain extent, let's click, stand up, and then, cang, fall to the ground, the general audience is after the actor a zombie falls to the ground, and then applaud, this zombie falls well, but the audience of Jinmen is like this, toot tuk, the body falls back, let's click, stand up, at this time, the audience of Jinmen shouted 'steady', and then a cang, fell to the ground. ”

Dou Wentao and Ma Weidu both laughed when they heard it, and Ma Weidu said with a smile, "This is an expert, and shout to steady!"

Wang Peiyu nodded and said with a smile, "Especially expert, he knows what a knotty eye is, and he also knows that he won't shake you this time!"

Ma Weidu said with a smile, "This time I have added strength to you!"

Wang Peiyu clapped her hands and said, " Yes, that's what it means, and it also adds strength to the actors, you must know that there are those audiences who won't applaud, that's too much, there are many times, after a large part of the play is sung, in fact, there is a sentence behind, and the middle of these two sentences is the time for the corner to rest, and this break is not long, but some audiences who don't understand the play think it's time to applaud at this time, but this applause disrupts the rhythm of this piece, sometimes, the actors will be very uncomfortable, and the later drama will not sing well, in fact, an audience who understands drama is much more important than a hundred audiences who don't know drama！”

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "Of course, the audience who understands drama comes from when they don't know drama, you can't ask every audience to understand drama as soon as they come, we still have to slowly cultivate the audience, so that the audience can slowly change from not knowing drama to really understanding drama, in fact, cultivating the audience is also a very happy process!"

Wang Peiyu also nodded and said, "That's true, on the one hand, the audience in Tianjin knows the most about opera, on the other hand, in fact, what actors are most afraid of is to go to the big pier of Tianjin to sing, although the story of Mr. Tan Fuying I said before is a rumor, but it can be circulated for so long, which also shows that the audience in Tianjin is really not easy to mess with, even a big horn like Mr. Tan Fuying has to suffer in their mouths, you can imagine how frightened other actors are to Jinmen!"