Wang Peiyu nodded with a heavy face and said, " That's the case, we have accepted a lot of Liyuan family rules, lessons, this is a very important part of it, because, to be honest, the children who sing opera are basically not very high, but the self-esteem of the industry, or the strength to grit their teeth and endure hardships, is very remarkable, sometimes, it is really I see some old actors, who have a protruding disc in their waists under the stage, and they are sweating profusely when they sit there, but as soon as they come on stage, the spirit makes you not see that he is already hurting offstage!"

Dou Wentao nodded and said, "Now our Peking Opera culture is very interesting, just this opera culture, what king doesn't see the king, you can't be on the same stage!"

As soon as these words came out, Pei Yanzhi and Wang Peiyu also looked at each other and smiled.

Dou Wentao continued, " Because I now heard some directors tell me, he said that the culture of the Chinese opera troupe is far-reaching, you look at the current movies, TV series, they think, this is exactly the same as the culture of the Chinese troupe, what C position, what male protagonist and heroine, the big star will not play any supporting role for you, the position and size on the poster, in the end, there must be a final say, either the director, or the protagonist, everyone must respect him, in this way, the filming of the movie or TV series can go on very smoothly!"

After Dou Wentao finished speaking, he looked at Pei Yanzhi and Wang Peiyu and asked, "You two, do you have any feelings about this?"

Pei Yanzhi gestured at Wang Peiyu, let her say first, Wang Peiyu bowed slightly, and said, "This feeling is too profound, after all, our Peking Opera is the art of Jiao'er, the troupe sells Jiao'er, and the audience comes to listen to Jiao'er, a play is revolving around Jiao'er, why do you call me Boss Yu, in fact, this is an honorific title for me, I am actually not the boss, Yanzhi This is the real Boss Pei, after all, he is now the head of the Shuangqing class, this is the boss of the Eight Classics!"

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "Boss Yu is polite, my Shuangqing class is just a small fight, speaking of the boss, in fact, this is the honorific title for the head of the Jiao'er or the troupe in the past, and this kind of honorific title is only available in the troupe, and there are few such titles in other art industries, what is the boss, that is, these people below are pointing to you to eat, posting your name, and someone can buy tickets, this is called the boss." ”

Wang Peiyu said with a smile, "We have now mainly become a national troupe, and few of us can set up a class club, so the word boss is basically extinct, Yan Zhi is also the first Peking Opera boss to pick a class independently for so many years, in fact, every Peking Opera person is very envious of him, because we all have this kind of boss feelings in our hearts!"

Dou Wentao said with a smile, "I think you did have a period of time, the frequency of appearing on TV is very high, and there is such a feeling that you are competing with the system, when you were twenty-four years old, you were already the deputy head of the first troupe of the Modu Peking Opera Company, and you became famous at a young age, at that time, I felt that I was a corner, so I wanted to go out to pick a class by myself, but this needs the support of the audience, so you will frequently appear in major variety shows, and you also have your own show, I hope more people will know you and know you!"

Wang Peiyu shook her head with a wry smile and said, "At that time, it was really a little floating, I felt that I was already a character, so I wanted to come out and pick my own class, like those bosses in the past, but the times are different, in this era, unless you can be like Yan Zhi, with a deep background and strong funds, you can get out of that circle!"

Dou Wentao asked, "Then what is the problem you encountered?"

Wang Peiyu sighed and said, "No one cooperates, because I can go, but I can't sing by myself, I need actors to support the play, I need theater, I need the media to give me publicity, but these are all within the system, with my ability, it is impossible to break this!"

Ma Weidu asked, "Do you mean that this troupe is not suitable for now?"

Wang Peiyu shook his head and said, "That kind of pure troupe is not suitable today, you see that there are many Peking Opera troupes with personal names now, in fact, most of them still have to be united with the system, and he is the only one who has a completely independent troupe like Yanzhi!"

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "The establishment of my troupe is mainly due to the prestige of several masters and the help of all the senior brothers and sisters, I am a shopkeeper!"

started again, Pei didn't pretend to be uncomfortable, Yanzhi went online again, and the three of them rolled their eyes in unison.

Pei Yanzhi smiled and said, "In fact, the reason why the troupe is not suitable for appearing now is very simple, this is the problem of market demand!"

Dou Wentao asked with interest, "What does this mean?"

Pei Yanzhi said solemnly, " There are two reasons for the decline of Peking Opera now, the first is the actors, most of the current actors do not have the embarrassment of life, after learning opera, they enter various troupes, perform a fixed number of plays every month, and then take a fixed amount of money, drought and flood to ensure income, starvation is not to death, but it is not easy to get rich and expensive, therefore, many Peking Opera actors began to become lazy, because I sang no matter whether I sang well or not, I would get so much money a month, sing well, it was also so much money, and the average singing was also so much money, and the most important thing was that the audience below did not listen to me, I sang well or not, the audience would not care, over timeMost of the Peking Opera performers have lost their motivation, and without motivation, Peking Opera will be stagnant!"

After hearing this, the three of them also nodded thoughtfully.

Pei Yanzhi continued, " At the end of the Qing Dynasty and the beginning of the Republic of China, why Peking Opera became popular was because in the capital, there were a large number of idlers who had nothing to do, these people were the children of the Eight Banners, they did not produce, there was money and food every month, they had nothing to do every day, teahouses and wine shops, everywhere, and the courtyard where they often went to the opera, these people had money and leisure, so that era became the most prosperous period of quyi. And now, how can there be such idlers, most of them finish work every day, come home, eat some food, wash and go to sleep, who has the kung fu to come out to listen to the play, so now most troupes will only arrange a performance on the weekend, and no one will come to see the performance at ordinary times, unless the ticket is delivered!"

When it comes to sending tickets, the three of them shook their heads with a wry smile, this ticket delivery can be regarded as the biggest blow to the art industry, just like the blow of free to the genuine version, because when people get used to being free, it becomes a big rebellion for you to collect money.

Wang Peiyu nodded and said, "It's really similar to what Yan Zhi said, now many forms of music are like this, the audience doesn't have time to watch, and the actors are also passive and slacking off, this is a dead cycle, the more passive the actors are, the more the audience will not come to watch, because the audience is not stupid, can people still not see if you don't sell your strength, your movements on the stage are not tight, whether your mouth is strong, whether you sing hard or not, the audience are all clear-eyed people, deceive once or twice, and the third time people will not come!"

Ma Weidu said with a smile, "In today's words, the traffic of Peking Opera actors can't be compared with the stars!"

Dou Wentao laughed and said, "However, isn't there still a traffic celebrity like Yanzhi in the Peking Opera industry!"

The three of them looked at Pei Yanzhi and laughed, indeed, Pei Yanzhi's current traffic is beyond the reach of any star!

Pei Yanzhi shook his head and said with a smile, "I also have to do it as a last resort, you must know, after all, Peking Opera is a stage art, any stage art, it means that he must be niche, there is no way to do this, so I can't start from the stage, I can only start from me, a Peking Opera actor, I can't let more people like Peking Opera, it's better to let more people like me first, and then like Peking Opera through me, this is my idea!"

Wang Peiyu said with admiration, "This is a very good way, now the rise of film and television, in fact, is the way to go, traffic stars are in charge, as long as everyone likes this star first, and then this star plays movies, TV, variety shows, etc., there will be many fans to watch, this is a kind of traffic effect, so, Yan Zhi's approach is very good, you see, now there are more and more young people who like Peking Opera, it is undeniable that this is the result of Yan Zhi in recent years!"

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "I don't dare to be, I just did my best to be a Peking Opera actor, the treasures left by my ancestors can't be just lost, seeing that my three masters and my father are all old, and they are still bothering for the development of Peking Opera, I feel that I should do something for this art, not to mention driving, at least there must be some shock!"

Dou Wentao asked, "By the way, there are many people who have such a point of view, that is, now that Peking Opera has declined, there are fewer and fewer people watching it, what do you think?"

Wang Peiyu nodded at Pei Yanzhi and asked him to talk about this issue.

Pei Yanzhi nodded, in fact, not to mention the four people here, even if it is the entire Peking Opera circle, only he is really qualified to comment on the development of Peking Opera, after all, he has really seen the heyday of Peking Opera.

Having seen and heard with your own eyes, these are two completely different worlds, and no matter how steep the mountain is and how many photos and videos you let him see, it is better to let him go there and see it, it is worth a thousand words.

Pei Yanzhi said lightly, " Decline is certain, everything is like this, flourishing and declining, there will be no art form that can remain prosperous forever, from ancient times to the present, can you name one, see fewer and fewer people, it is also certain, just like I just said, there are no so idlers, so there will be fewer audiences, but Peking Opera will never perish, because the inheritance is, people who like this art will not be extinct, and people who like to watch this art will not be extinct, although there are many movies and TV series now, but these cannot replace the position of Peking Opera in the hearts of some people！”

Dou Wentao asked with some curiosity, "There are many people who like to watch TV and movies now, but I have never seen anyone who has such a big addiction, but I heard that fans of the past have heard a lot of this story, such as the famous four sons of the Republic of China, Zhang Boju, Qi Rushan, or those princes in the late Qing Dynasty, their biggest dream, no matter how much money I spend, I also want to invite Yu Shuyan and Mei Lanfang to come and play a play with me, and I will be satisfied in this life!"

Wang Peiyu said with a smile, "This is what used to be called ticket holders!"

Dou Wentao asked, "Yes, yes, I always hear people say that ticket holders are ticket friends, what is ticket holders?

Pei Yanzhi said with a smile, "This has a history, it is said that in the Qianlong period, there was a popular one in the capital called ' The children of the Eight Banners of the Qing Dynasty went to various places to sing this song, in order to publicize the Qing court, they did not need money, and they needed to have the dragon ticket issued by the Qing court as evidence, and later, everyone called this kind of lovers who like to sing opera, but do not make a living from singing, called ticket friends, and in the past, the children of the Eight Banners had a fixed place for rehearsals and performances, which was called the box office, and later Peking Opera followed these titles. ”

Dou Wentao and Ma Weidu glanced at each other, and couldn't help but be amazed, sure enough, the family history, no matter what could not be difficult for him.

Wang Peiyu said lightly, "This ticket holder of Peking Opera is a very special group, I don't know the old ticket holders in the past, I will talk about the current ticket holders, he may not be able to enter the theater to watch the play, because the ticket holders have a kind of self-esteem, he will feel that his glory is not to go to the play, his glory is that he will also sing your famous play, and I can watch your play without buying a ticket, but I can invite you to dinner, or I can become your disciple, this is the most glorious thing for the ticket holders!" Therefore, this is a lifelong thing, and being obsessed with drama is a lifelong thing, just like Mr. Zhang Boju you just mentioned, he only listens to Mr. Yu Shuyan's plays in his life, and he doesn't listen to other people's plays!"

Ma Weidu said with some emotion, "I think it seems that only these Chinese operas will have this kind of ticket holders, you are like a foreign opera, he will not have any fans who say that my wish is to go on stage and sing with Pavarotti, there seems to be no such statement, which movie actor do you like, the dream is to perform with movie actors, of course, these are very rare, but there seems to be no art form like Peking Opera, there are so many ticket holders, this is too rare!"