"Wouldn't it?" Tang Zifeng was also stunned, "Uncle Xiao, you are a military industrial enterprise, how can there be any question of where to go?"

Xiao Ming said with a wry smile: "Who said that there would be no question of where the military industrial enterprises should go? I came to the capital with our director this time to listen to the spirit of the policy conveyed by the leaders of the Science and Industry Commission on the separation of government administration from enterprise management in the military industrial system. It's not a secret now, but don't spread the word about it yet......"

In the latter sentence, he said it to the people at the table, but in fact, it was mainly to tell Tang Lin and his wife. Xiao Wenjun, as Xiao Ming's daughter, must know how to be measured. As for Tang Zifeng, as the leader of a large state-owned enterprise, he knows no less than Xiao Ming what to say and what not to say.

China's military management system has undergone many changes. At present, the Commission of Science and Technology is responsible for the management of the five major companies, and the five major companies manage their subordinate research institutes and factories. Although the previous ministries and commissions such as the Ministry of Nuclear Industry and the Ministry of Aerospace have been restructured into companies, they still follow the tradition of administrative management in the management system, and have not really separated government from enterprises. Perhaps it is precisely because of such a system of not separating government administration from enterprise that the military industrial enterprises generally lack vitality, and the military industrial industry has become the most loss-making system in the country.

In this round of institutional reform, the state has clearly proposed to reorganize the original Commission of Science, Technology and Industry. After the reorganization, the Commission of Science and Technology is only responsible for the management of industry policies, and no longer specifically manages enterprises. The five major companies will also be transformed, and each company will be split into two, thus becoming the top ten group companies.

The purpose of splitting a company into two is to introduce a competition mechanism that turns the companies that used to be in the same pot into competitors, so as to stimulate their own vitality. Enterprises that still do not want to make progress after the reorganization will be eliminated in such competition.

This reform plan has not yet been officially announced, but just like the institutional reform plan of the Ministry of Machinery, it has long been rumored in the system, and it is not a secret. Xiao Ming talked about Tang Lin and others on this occasion, and it was not a leak. Of course, if Tang Lin and his family owe it, and the clockwork Weibo says that the chief engineer of a research institute revealed the news to himself, Xiao Ming will definitely be criticized.

"You 17 institutes, don't you delegate them to the local government, right?" Tang Zifeng recalled what he knew in his previous life, and said hesitantly: "As for the restructuring...... , but there is a bit of a possibility, military enterprises can also be listed. ”

He said this because he remembered that in later generations there was a so-called military industrial stock, and as for when it began, he did not know.

When Tang Lin heard him say this, he couldn't help but reprimand: "Zifeng, what are you talking nonsense, how can a military industrial enterprise be restructured? This factory that makes aircraft and cannons can still be managed by a private person?"

Although Tang Lin was born as a farmer, he is also a somewhat literate farmer, especially when he came to the capital in the past two years and became the chairman of Feihai Company, he can be regarded as having seen some of the world. He doesn't know what the modern enterprise system is, nor does he know what it means to separate government from enterprises, but he knows what is going on in the military industrial complex. In his opinion, military enterprises are made of aircraft and artillery, which are all important weapons of the country, how can there be any reason to go public?

He was afraid that his son would talk nonsense and be laughed at by Xiao Ming, so he rushed to refute Tang Zifeng's words.

Xiao Ming waved his hand and said, "Old Tang, Zifeng is right. At present, some people have indeed suggested that some military industrial enterprises should be transformed into joint-stock companies, and some people have even suggested that foreign-funded enterprises and private enterprises should be allowed to merge with some military industrial enterprises that have poor economic returns. It is precisely for this reason that I want to ask Zifeng for advice. ”

"What does he know, he's just a hairy boy!" Tang Lin pretended to belittle Tang Zifeng with disdain, but he was a little proud in his heart. He could feel that what his in-laws said was not polite, and his son was able to guide a leader of Xiao Ming's level, which made Tang Lin very proud.

Tang Zifeng didn't know that Tang Lin had added so much drama to himself in his heart, and he relied on his own thoughts and said to Xiao Ming: "Uncle Xiao, in my opinion, the country will definitely not let go of military enterprises. For local enterprises like ours, the state will let them go, but the military industry is different, and this system cannot be handed over to the complete market for regulation, otherwise national security will not be guaranteed.

"Don't look at our country's long-term peace, there is a bit of an idea of letting go of Nanshan up and down, once there is a little change in the world, the country will definitely re-realize the importance of the military industry, and then it will be an opportunity for your military enterprises to eat and drink. ”

"That being said, looking at the current situation, the state doesn't know when it will pay attention to us again. Xiao Ming said with some discouragement.

"I think, it's going to be soon......" Tang Zifeng smiled slightly and said.

It is now 1998, and a year later, there will be one of the so-called "three hatreds" of the bombing incident, and this incident will also become a turning point for the country to re-attach importance to the military industry. Of course, this is not to say that without the bombing incident, the country would never pay attention to the military industry. In fact, with the completion of the adjustment of the national economy, the country's economic strength continued to rise, and by the end of the 90s, the country already had the ability to vigorously develop the military industry, and the bombing incident was just an opportunity.

Xiao Ming didn't know that Tang Zifeng had the memory of two lives, he just thought that Tang Zifeng had made such an inference from the macro situation and other aspects. Regarding Tang Zifeng's ability to analyze the economic situation, Xiao Ming didn't say anything, but he was quite convinced. His old classmate Qin Zhongnian has introduced Tang Zifeng's vision in business more than once, Xiao Ming himself is engaged in technology, and he does not know much about management, so he has always admired those who are good at management, which is why he just said that he wanted to ask Tang Zifeng for advice.

"According to what you say, the state should maintain the original management system, why make such drastic adjustments to the military industrial system?" Xiao Ming asked.

Tang Zifeng said: "The state will certainly attach great importance to the military industry, but Uncle Xiao should know better than me what the internal operation of the military industrial enterprises is like, right? It's all the hard-earned money of us taxpayers. ”

"Uh......"

Xiao Ming was embarrassed again, is it okay not to hurt people like this?

The military-industrial system in the early years was a fully enclosed and completely independent system. The production and sales of military industrial enterprises are managed by state directives, and the harvest is guaranteed in times of drought and flood. At that time, the internal management of military enterprises was strict, and the thinking of workers was relatively simple, and "military industry serving the country" was not only a slogan written on the walls of workshops and laboratories, but also the ideal in the hearts of most cadres and workers. In Xiao Ming's memory, it was a very glorious period for the military-industrial system.

After reform and opening up, the state proposed to shift the focus of work to economic work, and orders for the military industry were decreasing day by day, and many military enterprises had no choice but to open up markets for civilian products to make up for the lack of funds. There have been some successful cases in which military enterprises have engaged in civilian products, but most of them have achieved very bad results, resulting in serious losses and a continuous decline in the treatment of workers and workers. In addition, various trends of thought in society have begun to infiltrate, and many military industrial enterprises, like local enterprises, have developed various enterprise diseases, and some problems are even worse than those of local enterprises.

Tang Zifeng said that military enterprises waste taxpayers' hard-earned money, although there is a suspicion of hitting a boatload of people, but Xiao Ming knows that some military enterprises do have such a situation, which makes old military workers like him feel ashamed.

It is precisely because the state sees this situation that it proposes that the military industrial system should also separate government administration from enterprise management, push military industrial enterprises to the market, and use the power of market competition to help military industrial enterprises complete the change of management system.

"There are several advantages to changing the mechanism, especially the transformation of some military industrial enterprises into joint-stock companies. First, we can raise a part of the funds to make up for the shortcomings of the military industrial enterprises due to insufficient funds, and help the military industrial enterprises upgrade their technology and enhance their strength. Second, through going public, we should introduce an external supervision mechanism to promote the reform of the internal management mechanism of military industrial enterprises and improve efficiency. Third, listing on the stock market is also a method of increasing transparency, which can make the operation of military industrial enterprises more in line with market principles and conducive to military industrial enterprises entering the international market. From these perspectives, the listing of military enterprises is the trend of the times, and it is also a great thing for the benefit of the country, the people, and the factory. ”

Tang Zifeng began to talk eloquently, with his knowledge, it was too easy to summarize a "one, two, three" for one thing.

"However, in this case, how can we ensure the country's national defense needs?" Xiao Ming asked.

Tang Zifeng said: "This involves another aspect. Enterprises like the 17 can choose to go public or not, but in either case, it is definitely the state-owned shares that have an absolute advantage, and the state will not tolerate market forces affecting the operation of your enterprises. It doesn't hurt that an enterprise like our Linyi Machine can carry out a comprehensive restructuring or even change to a completely private enterprise, but the state will definitely not let go of the military industrial enterprises. ”

Xiao Ming nodded: "If that's the case, then I'm relieved, to be honest, I'm really worried that the country really doesn't care about us, pushes us all to the market, and leaves us to fend for ourselves." I don't care about personal treatment or anything. I think that the technology that we have in a company like our 17 is something that the state has spent decades and invested hundreds of millions of dollars to develop. It would be a shame to throw it all away like that. ”

"Uncle Xiao, don't worry, the country is not so confused. Tang Zifeng said lightly.

"That's what I thought, too. Xiao Ming said approvingly, and then changed his words and said: "However, Zifeng, the current situation of our 17 institutes is also very difficult, a bit similar to the situation of the 432 factory in the past. Especially after the recent news about the separation of government and enterprises in the military industrial system, the mood of the workers is very volatile, and many young technicians under me are thinking about changing jobs.

"I'm worried that before you can see any opportunities come, the backbone of our institute will be lost. I know you're a man with a way, can you think of a way to help us keep people. ”