"It's a long story. Tang Zifeng sighed and said:

"More recently, in 1999, the United States launched the Cox Report, proposing to impose export restrictions on high-end machine tools to China. At that time, the military industry was very nervous, and the Commission of Science and Technology also found our local enterprises and asked us to develop high-end machine tools for the military industry to prevent accidents. At that time, the relationship between us and the military industry was still very good, and the two sides had very close contacts and good cooperation.

"But it didn't take long for the twin buildings of the United States to be hit by people, and the United States launched a war on terror, and the embargo on China was shelved. The military industry felt that since it was able to buy machine tools from the West, there was no need to rely on us, so the relationship between the two sides became colder and colder. ”

Xu Zhaojian said with a smile: "You are on your side. The argument on the military side is that your R&D progress is too slow, you lack a sense of service, you pick and choose at every turn, give face, people spend money, you can't buy good things, don't say it, you have to be angry with you, can people have no opinion?"

"But they don't give much money. Tang Zifeng muttered.

"It has always been the obligation of our machinery industry to provide equipment for the military industry, not to mention that people have also given research and development funds, even if they don't give a penny, you won't do it?" Xu Zhaojian asked.

Tang Zifeng said: "At least, the enthusiasm is not so high, right? Foreign countries have sanctioned us, and the state has said that it is our obligation to develop high-end machine tools, but when foreign countries relax sanctions, these military departments have hurried to purchase foreign machine tools, and we have thrown aside our hard work." Who can have no opinion on this kind of thing?"

This conversation between the old and the young, when you hear the ears of others, you may think that they are choking each other. In fact, this is exactly the way the two people are familiar with the discussion. What Xu Zhaojian admires most about Tang Zifeng is that he dares to speak, and can speak up when he has different opinions, unlike some people who are submissive in front of the leader, and can clearly say things in one sentence, but he has to make a big detour, for fear that if he says it too bluntly, it will make the leader unhappy.

The practice of detouring around the bend seems to pay attention to the respect of the elder and the young, and it is a respect for the leader, but in fact, it is a lack of confidence in the leader's mind. A truly wise leader, where can you not hear which words are good and which is bad, you do things with your heart, how can the leader be unhappy because you are not artistic enough?

Well, what we are talking about here is leaders such as Xu Zhaojian and Zhou Heng, in reality, leaders who can't listen to the advice of the people are the mainstream, and they choke directly with the leaders, and the results are terrible.

Tang Zifeng is not a reckless person, he always speaks to watch people put down dishes. In the place of tactfulness, he naturally knows how to be tactful, but in front of Xu Zhaojian, he doesn't need to do this. He understood that the more straightforward he was, the more he would be liked by the old man.

This is called emotional intelligence, Xiao Tang has not studied anything else in four years of college, and this course is definitely a full score.

Zhou Heng interjected and said, "What Xiao Tang said is also true. In terms of military industry, it has always been to use domestic equipment manufacturing enterprises as a backup, and when it can buy imported machine tools, it will try to use imported machine tools. I couldn't buy imported machine tools, so I thought of using domestic machine tools.

"The result of this is the lack of enthusiasm of domestic machine tool enterprises, sometimes they have made great efforts to develop a machine tool, and the military industry says that it cannot reach the performance of similar foreign machine tools, so it is not wanted. I've heard this kind of thing many times in the second game. ”

"They also have their problems. Xu Zhaojian said, "The army has very high requirements for equipment, and military enterprises should use the best machine tools possible to improve the performance and quality of equipment." If you can't buy what you import, you have to use domestically produced ones, and they can't help it. If they can buy better machine tools abroad, their psychology must be biased towards foreign countries, and the reason is also very legitimate. ”

Zhou Heng said: "This is a typical memorization of eating." If the United States issues another Cox report, what will I do with these military-industrial enterprises?"

Xu Zhaojian said: "The comrades of the Science and Technology Commission have actually realized this problem and have also communicated with the following enterprises. The concern of the following enterprises is whether the domestic machine tool enterprises can be reliable. They are worried that the hope for domestic machine tool companies is too great, and in the end there are two empty. ”

"Actually, it's not a big problem. Zhou Heng said, "Over the years, our machine tool enterprises have made rapid technological progress, materials, processes, equipment, and design capabilities, which are not the same as in the past." If the country can increase investment and continue to invest, our machine tool enterprises can fully realize the task of import substitution. ”

"The premise is that the state needs to invest continuously. Tang Zifeng continued Zhou Heng's words and said, "This investment is not only a financial investment, but also a national policy level. To put it mildly, an enterprise like our Linji Group is really not short of tens of millions of special funds, and what we need is that the results of our work can be recognized by the state, and they can have some weight in the country's psychological balance. ”

Xu Zhaojian nodded and said, "I understand what you mean." In the past, we mentioned machine tools as the foundation of the country, and we should also mention it now and in the future. Last time you cracked down on the Jinsheng Group, some comrades questioned whether it was too much to use such means to solve the problem of market competition. I said at the time that there are some areas that cannot be relaxed, and in these areas, no matter how cautious it is, it is impossible to overstate it. ”

"Xu Lao Shengming!" Tang Zifeng hurriedly slapped a sycophant.

Xu Zhaojian glanced at him, but he didn't care, but continued: "In this matter, I think you military and civilian sides should sit down and talk about it again and discuss a suitable mechanism. By the way, it must be a long-term mechanism, which will remain unchanged for 50 years, and cannot be changed overnight. ”

"The long-term mechanism is a good idea!" Zhou Heng praised, "The research and development of machine tools cannot be achieved overnight. If you engage in that kind of research and development, vigorously carry out it for a year or two, and then die down, even if you can make a few models at that time, you will lack stamina. Without continuous research and development, the distance between us and foreign countries will become further and further, and one day we will not even be able to understand what other people are doing. ”

"On this point, you must step up propaganda, especially to make our leading cadres understand. Xu Zhaojian pointed at Tang Zifeng and ordered.

Tang Zifeng said with a smile: "Elder Xu, shouldn't this propaganda thing be done by the propaganda department?

"How many people in the propaganda department know how many people know machine tools?" Xu Zhaojian said in a dissatisfied tone, "As for the problem of the heptagonal nut that your 'identification network' discussed some time ago, I heard a reflection that many professors in the party school did not understand. There is also a professor who introduced the "Winter Training Camp Competition" to the students in class, and it is said that the students feel that the heptagon nut is right. ”

"The problem is too big. Zhou Heng said, "Many of our current government officials are from economics, law, history, Chinese and other majors, and they don't know anything about industrial knowledge." When it comes to building airplanes and cars, they are the first to go, but when it comes to the performance of a brake pad on an airplane and a bearing on a car, they are completely blind. If we don't change this situation, our industrial development will go astray. ”

Tang Zifeng was depressed: "Director Zhou is talking about me, I am from an economic background." However, when I was in college, the school was quite particular about combining it with production practice. Although we majored in economics, we also took industrial technology courses and let us do metalworking internships in factories.

"In recent years, schools have become more and more academic, and the liberal arts majors of various schools have canceled the production practice courses. Those who study industrial economics can't distinguish between lathes and milling machines, and those who study agricultural economics don't know paddy fields and dry fields, which are all normal. ”

"I can't tell the difference between lathes and milling machines, and I don't know paddy fields and dry fields, so how can I command production?" Xu Zhaojian said, "This issue that Xiao Tang said is very important, and we must start from the foundation of talent training." Primary and secondary schools shall set up labor classes and get in touch with production practice. Universities should set up practical courses in production, even if they are studying economics or journalism, they should also understand how electricity is generated and how screws are processed, and at the very least, it will not make jokes like heptagonal nuts. ”

"For the existing leading cadres, it is also necessary to make up for this lesson. Zhou Heng echoed and said, "I think that if it is possible to formulate a policy, government officials at all levels should take time to go to factories and rural areas." This kind of view is not a casual inspection work as in the past, but to go down to the workshop and the field to actually understand what the industrial and agricultural production process is like, and by the way, to enhance confidence in China's manufacturing. ”

"We at Linji Group can provide this kind of business. Tang Zifeng raised his hand and said, "We can open up an industrial tourism project, contact leaders at all levels to carry out industrial one-day tours, if one day is not enough, it can become three or five days." Let these leaders personally go down to the workshop and make a hammer or something, and they can basically know what is going on in the industry. ”

Xu Zhaojian said with a smile: "How do I think that this matter is getting bigger and bigger? Didn't we talk about localization at first? Now that there is such a fuss, the Education Commission, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the Organization Department, the Personnel Department, the Development and Reform Commission, and all other departments have to move.

"However, I think it's also necessary. Isn't there a saying that China is the world's factory, and the output of many industrial products is already the world's first. In an industrial country as large as ours, the lack of industrial knowledge at all levels of leadership is completely unreasonable. To strengthen the education of leading cadres in industrial knowledge, we should also establish a long-term effective mechanism, and we must never again make trouble with laymen leading insiders.

"Regarding this matter, Xiao Zhou, Xiao Tang, you work hard to form a written report, and I will hand it to you. ”