"Of course, I don't mean to underestimate Oracle, I hope you don't mind. ”

Although the current oracle is facing some difficulties like Apple, Zheng Yan is worried that his words will make Larry Ellison a little uncomfortable, so he quickly explained.

"Don't worry, I'm not so stingy. ”

No matter what Zheng Yan says, no matter which company Zheng Yan is optimistic about, in Larry Ellison's heart, Oracle's opponent will always be only one Microsoft, and as for other companies, they are not taken into account by him, this is Larry Ellison's madness, and it is also his self-confidence.

"If you say so, then I sold all of Apple's shares, which seems like a wrong decision. It's just that I'm still a little curious, why are you so optimistic about Apple's future?"

Because of the betrayal, Jobs sold all the shares of Apple in a fit of rage, and he couldn't help but joke when he heard Zheng Yan's answer.

"Steve, can I ask you a question before I officially answer your question?"

Zheng Yan saw that Jobs nodded, so he continued: "If one day in the future, Apple wants you to go back and continue to be in charge of the company, will you go back?"

Steve Jobs has always advocated working with great people, and this philosophy applies not only to the work, but also to the process of making friends. Since Zheng Yan has plans to befriend Jobs, he naturally wants to show his "excellence".

In the face of Zheng Yan's sudden question, Jobs did not react for a while, from the moment he left Apple, he had already made up his mind that he would have nothing to do with Apple again, but if the situation that Zheng Yan said really happened, would he go back? Jobs also asked himself in his heart.

"To be honest, I never thought about it, or even thought it was happening. If it were now, I don't think I would have gone back. ”

After all, not long after experiencing betrayal, the resentment in Jobs's heart is still there, even if he still has feelings for Apple in his heart, but he can't erase the resentment in his heart. It's just that Jobs didn't say anything to death, after all, he can't say how long this resentment can last.

"Steve, can I understand that way, that is, if this happens in the future, you might go back?"

Jobs hesitated for a moment, but nodded.

"Isn't it Steve, they all treated you like that, you still want to go back? If I were you, I would find a way to make the current company bigger and stronger, and when the strength is enough, I will directly buy Apple, and take a good breath of evil. ”

After hearing Jobs' answer, Larry Ellison also held a grievance for Jobs.

Although the outside world's evaluation of Larry Ellison is mixed, Larry Ellison is really good to his friends. In 2010, Mark Hurd, who served as the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, was forced to resign because of a sexual harassment investigation, and Larry Ellison, as a good friend of Mark Hurd, directly hired Mark Hurd as president of Oracle after denouncing the Hewlett-Packard board of directors. Although the matter was also controversial, Larry Ellison never took it seriously.

"Zheng Yan, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with your optimism about Apple, right?"

Jobs knew Larry Ellison too well and knew that once he explained to him, he would definitely talk endlessly, so he simply ignored him and continued the conversation with Zheng Yan. Larry Ellison also knew Jobs, and he didn't let go of the problem.

"No, Steve, there's not just a relationship between the two, but a very important one. The reason why I'm optimistic about Apple's future is because I think you'll come back to Apple one day. ”

If Zheng Yan's question just surprised Jobs, then now in the face of Zheng Yan's answer, Jobs no longer knows what words to use to describe his feelings.

It is not surprising in the investment world that a company is optimistic about its future and therefore makes an upfront investment. But like Zheng Yan, betting that a person who has left the company will return to the company one day in the future is not an uncommon problem, but he has never heard of it at all.

"Zheng Yan, first of all, I would like to express my gratitude for your attention. But have you ever wondered how they could have asked me to go back now that I've been kicked out of the company, and even if they let me go back and I've gone back, how can you be sure that I'll be able to lead Apple to glory?"

"Yes, Zheng Yan, you should know that Steve now has a new company, if he returns to Apple, what will happen to his current company?"

In the face of Zheng Yan's answer, it was not only Jobs who was strange, but Larry Ellison on the side was also very incomprehensible.

"Steve, I don't know why you've been betrayed, but I think Apple is developing very stupidly right now. As far as I know, because of the loss of market share, Apple is currently focusing on more open and higher prices. ”

"It's very open and we don't say it, because it's hard to define, but it's more expensive, which is obviously a stupid decision. At present, the computers produced by Apple do not have much advantage compared with other companies, and the direction of higher prices will only make Apple step by step towards the abyss. The company's shareholders can tolerate it for now, but what about the future?"

"When Apple was still under your leadership, although there were problems, just like the original computer Lisa, the sales situation was not ideal, but on the whole, whether it was product design or sales positioning, it was much stronger than now. When Apple gets into a bigger mess, I can't think of anything else they can do but get you back in charge of the company. ”

"As for the confidence in you, I don't know how to express it, you can understand it as an intuition, a very strong intuition. ”

In the past, when facing some problems, Zheng Yan could use data analysis or analysis of events to explain, no matter how likely it is, but at least there is a certain possibility. However, it is really impossible to analyze whether a person can succeed, so I have to use intuition to explain it.

"Zheng Yan, haven't you thought about what if things develop differently than you predicted?"

In Jobs' view, although Apple's stock price is currently falling, 4.6 percent of the shares are still worth a lot, and he is not optimistic that Zheng Yan can win the bet, that is, Zheng Yan needs to buy at a premium of 10 percent.

"Even if I lose this bet, I can sell my shares, which is not a loss for me. ”

In a word, rich, capricious!