"The balance has been broken?" Gellert Grindelwald asked, frowning and looking a little grim.

"May I ask you a question......" Jon didn't continue the conversation directly, and then asked rhetorically, "If the wizarding world and the Muggle world were at war in an all-out way, which side would you prefer to win?"

"If it's a direct all-out war, then the wizarding world has no chance of winning. Grindelwald said without thinking: "I have thought about this question many times......

"Can you explain why?"

“...... First of all, the wizarding world is not monolithic. Grindelwald said slowly: "There are a large number of half-blood wizards and hemp wizards...... There are also pure-blood wizards like Albus who tend to be Muggle-oriented. If there is an all-out war, they will not be on our side, but on the Muggle side. Therefore, before the war begins, all the wizards in this part must be eliminated!"

"Don't say we're okay, you and I aren't on the same side!" Jon grumbled.

"Okay...... I'm sorry!" Grindelwald smiled, and the solemn atmosphere on his face eased a little: "This civil war will directly cause the wizarding world itself to suffer heavy losses in advance and greatly damage its vitality...... However, this is necessary because the greatest advantage of the wizarding world over the Muggle world is the mystery, and if a large number of half-bloods, hemp breeds, and some pure-blood wizards join the Muggle faction, the greatest advantage will no longer exist. ”

"That's right, even Tom Riddle knows that......" Jon said with a smile, "at least he's not stupid enough to declare war on the Muggle world before he can win the civil war in the wizarding world once and for all......"

"Who is Tom Riddle?" asked Grindelwald, with some curiosity.

"A dark wizard who is more famous after you. Jon said briefly.

"Oh, okay. Grindelwald nodded casually, then continued: "Even if this war is won, the wizarding world will still not be able to defeat the Muggle world...... Because there are so many Muggles, it is absolutely impossible for a single wizard to rule or conquer tens of thousands of Muggles, it is absolutely impossible to ......"

“...... After truly exposing the wizarding world to the Muggle world, we will gain a certain advantage in the early stages of the war...... But as our habits and existence become fully known to the Muggle world, the mystery of us disappears, and the Muggles will fight back wildly with their numbers......"

"You used 'us' again......" Jon couldn't help but grumble, and then he added: "And the vast majority of adult wizards are only proficient in most living magic, and very little is known about harmful magic and dark magic; ”

"Hey, I'm sorry!" Grindelwald sighed, "The existence ......of the International Wizarding Secrecy Act was like this for hundreds of years before this, and it did bring long-term peace to the wizarding world, but it also made ordinary wizards lose their former fangs, and even the development of magic slowed down or even stagnated rapidly. ”

"So my original plan ......" Grindelwald's eyes instantly became fierce.

......

"I never wanted to make the wizarding world and the Muggle world go to war completely, because I knew it was self-defeating!" Grindelwald said coldly: "However, the Muggle world, like the wizarding world, is not monolithic, there are great contradictions between their different races and cultures, if a war is provoked within the Muggle world, a war that can affect the entire world......"

“...... Let the Muggles flood their world with a torrent of steel, let their shells and bullets slaughter their fellow citizens, plunge them into chaos and fear, and turn their civilization into a wasteland......" Grindelwald's eyes suddenly turned horribly cold:

"If my plan were to go my way, the civilization of the Muggle world would be set back a few hundred years, and after that, it would only take one such war every few hundred years to achieve the same effect. In this way, the Muggle world and the wizarding world will be in permanent equilibrium...... All I need to do is simply support a puppet in the Muggle world......"

"And you've failed!" Jon reminded him, pouting.

"Yes, I made a fatal mistake!" Grindelwald's tone suddenly became frustrated: "In Godric's Hollow, I have already gained his trust, and I have already made him die for me...... But in the heat of the moment, I unfortunately killed his sister...... From then on, he turned against me at every turn, and at every turn, until I was completely defeated. ”

Grindelwald's voice had lost its previous indifference, but was a little more remorseful.

"No, you're wrong, it's not an Albus Dumbledore problem. Jon hurriedly denied, "If it wasn't for Dumbledore defeating you in time, it might have brought a much worse result......

As he spoke, Jon pulled the silver octahedron out of his pocket.

At the same time, a small handful of memories were taken out and put into it.

The silver light shone on the black wall, and a mushroom cloud in full bloom appeared.

"I ......" Grindelwald's eyes flashed with a little memory, and he shook his head slightly: "I've seen it before...... I've always wanted to be able to avoid it......"

"No, it's your actions that cause it to happen. Jon explained, "Just two months after you were imprisoned in this prison, the American No-Majs across the ocean developed this weapon and used it to destroy two cities, and the pressure you put on them led them to make terrible progress in research over the course of several years......"

"So......" Grindelwald muttered.

"If Dumbledore hadn't stopped you in time, if the war had been stalemate, then I'm afraid it would be all of Europe that would have borne the wrath!" Jon said with a smile.

"It seems that I was really wrong...... Grindelwald sighed and lowered his head.

......

"And now?" After a long pause, the old wizard raised his head a little reluctantly, and his face became much weaker.

"The Muggle world is inevitable...... "They're still developing at an extremely terrifying rate, and their energy has surpassed the imagination of the wizarding world, but it doesn't really affect us much......"

"How so?" said Grindelwald, frowning.

"Muggles can't fit into the wizarding world because they don't have the talent to be a wizard...... But for wizards, it doesn't really have to be difficult to integrate into the Muggle world!"