"Bringing wizards into the Muggle world?" Grindelwald frowned.

"yes...... The development of magic has almost come to a standstill in recent centuries, and the development of Muggle science is advancing at a rapid pace!" Jon replied, "For us wizards, it is entirely possible to learn from Muggles their essence and strengthen ourselves through their skills...... In fact, I think our education in Muggle studies is a very failure, and the wizarding world's understanding of the Muggle world is generally stuck in three hundred years ago......"

"That sounds ......" Grindelwald frowned, "It's like we're not opponents in the Muggle world, and then choose to join them......"

"Really...... It seems to be a bit ......" Jon smiled a little awkwardly, and for a moment he suddenly thought of a well-known basketball star in his previous life.

He said hesitantly, "Study...... There's no shame in that......"

"Is this your plan?" Grindelwald gave him a meaningful look.

"No, no, no......" Jon quickly shook his head, "I'm just an idea...... I'm not like you or Professor Dumbledore, the Dark Lord or the White Lord...... I'm just an ordinary wizard!"

"Ordinary wizards. Grindelwald smiled and shook his head: "Then I wish you good luck, don't be a loser like me, and then be alone in prison for more than fifty years." ”

"I lend you a good word. ”

"I always thought my failure was just an accident...... I didn't know until I saw you today that it was inevitable!" Grindelwald couldn't help but sigh: "It's a blessing to be able to leave this world clearly......"

"Why do you say that......" Jon said with a frown.

"Because I'm running out of life...... You just told me that. Looking at Jon's surprised eyes, Grindelwald said calmly, "I just asked you when I will die, and you chose to deceive me with lies...... That proves that you see my death, I'm afraid it's not far off. ”

"It was just an accident...... Jon quickly argued, "I couldn't have seen that again!"

"It doesn't matter if it's an accident or not. Grindelwald smiled indifferently: "I am already a very old man, only lonely and lonely...... If you stay here, if you see your plan go ahead, if you see the balance between wizarding and Muggle restored, if everything about me is considered wrong, that's really bad!"

"But...... You can ......"

"You want me to get out of here? That's impossible...... Grindelwald shook his head, "I've committed too many sins, and I've got too much blood on my hands...... There is no point in leaving this place except to send the world into a panic, to furious my enemies, and to cause trouble for Albus Dumbledore. ”

"Mr. Grindelwald......" Jon whispered.

"Death isn't a terrible thing, at least for us......" Grindelwald smiled and glanced at Jon, "Don't forget that I'm a prophet Magus, maybe when I die, I can return to the prophesied world!"

"And what about Professor Dumbledore?"

Albus ...... He's also old. Grindelwald sighed, "Maybe...... He was looking forward to death more than I was, and he must have wanted to see his parents and his sister again. ”

......

There was a brief silence between the two.

Jon didn't know how to convince him, and Grindelwald didn't speak.

There was silence for a few minutes—

"By the way, I haven't asked you about the purpose of this trip!" Grindelwald took the initiative to say, "You came all the way here, not just to talk to a bad old man like me!"

"I ......," Jon nodded solemnly, "Indeed, I have something to ask you. ”

"It's a matter of the dark arts...... I think if it's anything else, you'll definitely ask Albus...... Don't worry, my memory is terrible, but it's still okay to answer a few questions from you little ghost!" Grindelwald said with a relaxed face.

"I'd like you to ask for advice on how to split souls!" Jon asked in a whisper.

Asking Gellert Grindelwald for advice on how to split the souls of Astoria and the Blood Curse was the only thing Jon could think of...... After all, Grindelwald and Tom Riddle are the only two true masters of the dark arts in this world, and Mr. Riddle should have been a better choice, after all, he has had many experiences in making Horcruxes, but unfortunately it is too difficult to ask him for advice.

"Split Soul ......" Grindelwald couldn't help frowning: "Do you want to make Horcruxes...... I don't know much about Horcruxes, but I know that it's a very stupid thing to do!"

"It's true that it's a Horcrux, but it's not as ...... as you think," Jon replied honestly.

"I don't think you're that stupid...... There are several spells that can be soul-cutting, like ......," Grindelwald said.

"Can you interrupt a moment, Mr. Grindelwald. Jon whispered, "This is the case, if two souls are fused together, how can the other soul be cut off and made into a Horcrux without hurting the other?"

"Sounds complicated......" Grindelwald frowned, "Two souls fused together, how many years have they fused?"

"Fifteen years...... It's the soul of a snake, and the soul of a girl. Jon replied honestly.

"Blood curse?"

"That's right......"

"This is impossible to do, the fusion of the two souls has taken too long, and the blood curse soul must have invaded the normal soul. Grindelwald said with a serious face: "No magic can do this!"

"Okay......" Jon nodded with a look of disappointment, and although he had received a lot of useful information from Grindelwald at the Tower of Newmondgard, he had not received the answer he wanted to answer the most critical question.

"Craft a Horcrux to deal with the Blood Curse...... It's a very genius idea, if this method is used when the girl is just born and the blood curse soul is not yet mature, maybe it will be successful!"

Grindelwald commented, looking at Jon's dejected expression.

"Actually, strictly speaking, it's not completely out of the ordinary......" he whispered.

"Really?" Jon's eyes lit up.

"There's no magic that can do that, but ......," Grindelwald said with a slurrel.

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