682 Is it possible to want an advanced production line but not want to spend more money?

"Promise, what promise did I give?" Xie Kai looked confused.

I didn't promise anything before!

"They proposed to purchase only 20 planes and asked for the production line ......" Zheng Yucheng looked at the Egyptians with contempt, but revealed the news to Xie Kai.

"Poof...... Originally, in order to convince Mubara to have a dry mouth, Xie Kai, who was drinking tea, squirted out!

"Twenty?"

Xie Kai thought he had misheard.

"Twenty is a lot. Aliaf said dissatisfied.

looked at Xie Kai and the others, and a pair of bean bags were not dry food.

"They asked for five to be supplied and the remaining 15 to be assembled in Egypt. Each fighter, according to the price of the J-7 half sold and half given, is 3 million US dollars per ......"

No wonder the atmosphere is so tense.

Are the Egyptians here to be funny?

Xie Kai felt that the Egyptians were possessed by the third brother's family next door.

"Mr. Minister, for the technical indicators and technical performance of the Super 7A project, our people didn't explain it clearly, or did you not understand it clearly, so that you gave such a price?" Xie Kai regained his composure, and greeted these Egyptian ancestors for eighteen generations in his heart, and only then did he let his anger dissipate a little.

The Egyptians were silent.

"How much do we offer?" Xie Kai asked Zheng Yucheng.

"$12 million a plane, 100 planes to provide the production line. Zheng Yucheng said.

The conditions proposed by Xie Kai were slightly raised, after all, in the negotiations, there will be lower conditions and requirements.

"$1.2 billion to buy a production line for light fighters, this price is too high. "Muhanad also knows that their counter-offer is a little low. "We can't afford that cost, and we don't have such a high budget. ”

Internationally, the most advanced training aircraft, or advanced training aircraft, is only at such a price.

"Your Excellency, Egypt is a big African country and has a lot of influence in the Middle East. Xie Kai knew that it was not so easy to fool the Egyptians, "If your country can produce training aircraft, I don't think it will be limited to its own use." ”

"Will you agree to our export?" asked Muhanad, surprised.

I didn't believe Xie Kai's words at all.

The Chinese sell them fighter production lines, and will agree to sell them to other countries for their own use?

This is an order to grab the Chinese.

Internationally, any cooperation that provides a production line has strict restrictions on the number of production quantities.

It is even more unlikely that they will be allowed to export.

Therefore, many countries sell weapons and equipment, and do not sell production lines at all.

How stupid do you have to be to train competitors for yourself?

What Xie Kai means is to indicate that they can sell to other countries?

Possible?

Will their superiors agree?

"Why not? A lot of key components, we have to provide them. This is the trend towards the globalization of production cooperation. Being able to expand the export market is a great benefit for both of us......" Xie Kai said calmly.

Zheng Yucheng and others didn't expect that Xie Kai would make such a suggestion.

originally thought that it would not be possible to talk about it, and Xie Kai would come up with the plan of exchanging resources for equipment.

Egypt also has a lot of resources.

The meeting has not been able to go on so far, and both sides need to digest and discuss the current situation.

"Xie Kai, what do you think? Give them the production line, and allow them to export weapons and equipment, isn't it lifting a stone to shoot yourself in the foot?" Xie Jianguo was very dissatisfied with his son's behavior.

Not negotiable at all.

I don't want the consequences either.

The above knows, then it is still necessary.

Zheng Yucheng's face is also not good-looking, and the previous 359 tanks agreed to Pakistan to build a production line and even export it, which already made them very unhappy.

"Dad, Uncle Zheng, if you just rely on us to sell this fighter, how much do you think you can sell?" Xie Kai asked.

The two were stunned.

How much can be sold, there was a budget before, but the project was split in two.

"The price we wanted, it was a bit high. For Egypt, it is true that some cannot afford it. Xie Kai sighed.

Rich national arms procurement contracts were controlled by Europe, the United States, and the Soviet Union.

It is not easy for the equipment of 404 to grab orders from Europe and the United States.

"Didn't there be a resource-for-equipment program before? Egypt also has abundant resources. Zheng Yucheng obviously did not agree with Xie Kai's proposal. "Their oil and gas can also be used to offset their bills. It is even more reliable than the two Irans that are at war. ”

Hearing this, Xie Kai only shook his head, "Egypt is not suitable for this kind of plan. ”

"Why?" Zheng Yucheng and Xie Jianguo both looked at Xie Kai suspiciously.

It stands to reason that Egypt is the most suitable.

"Geographical location. Egypt controls the Suez Canal, and Europe and the United States have been fighting with the Soviet Union in Egypt for decades......" Xie Kai sighed.

Now that Egypt is in the hands of Western countries, even if China has no ideas, if it cooperates too much on Egypt's side, those grandsons of Europe and the United States will be capable?

Zheng Yucheng and the others are also aware of this problem.

Egypt has not been able to develop because of its geographical location.

Look at the people Gaddafi, there is no such an important throat, and the small life is very moist.

If Libya had switched places with Egypt, Gaddafi would have been killed long ago.

"Egypt is a big African country, and it has good relations with Middle Eastern countries, especially Saudi ......Arabia," Xie Kai said, "unless it has bad relations with Europe, the United States, and the Soviet Union, how can those countries that rely on oil sales purchase our weapons and equipment on a large scale?"

"Do you want to sell this trainer to Saudi Arabia and other big companies?" Zheng Yucheng's eyes widened. "It's not impossible. Now Egypt still has tens of thousands of troops to help Saudi Arabia carry out national defense tasks. ”

"The United States will agree? All Saudi Arabia's weapons and equipment are purchased from the United States. Xie Jianguo didn't think about it either.

He couldn't understand Xie Kai's brain hole.

But this is really good for them.

"It doesn't matter if the United States agrees or not, the important thing is that Saudi Arabia will support Egypt. Xie Kai said with a smile, "For every fighter they sell, we can get a technical fee, and the core parts of each fighter are provided by us, and the Egyptians can't make it at all." ”

"This creates a technical leak. Egypt is very close to the West. Xie Jianguo said worriedly.

Super 7 undertakes some technical verification of Project 10.

"As long as you sell it, it's possible. However, these technologies are low-level, as long as we do a good job of secrecy when the time comes. We help build the production line, we must provide technical support, don't we?" Zheng Yucheng didn't care about this.

"Yes, and the final inspection, which must also be carried out by our technicians. Otherwise, the signboard will be smashed in our hands. Xie Kai said.

Egypt does not have a fighter production line, and has always relied on buying planes to enrich the air force.

In the production and manufacturing of fighter aircraft, there is not sufficient technological accumulation.

China will definitely have to provide technical support.

While Xie Kai and the others were discussing this matter, the Egyptians were also discussing this matter in the 132 Factory Guest House.

"If it's a light fighter, the market is small. Trainer aircraft, the market demand is huge. At present, there are few advanced training aircraft in the world...... With our relations with our Middle Eastern brothers such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq, we can get a lot of orders...... "Ariaf said excitedly.

The cost of buying a production line is shared.

"Not only that, but we can use this to train our own fighter design talents in China, and even establish a complete aviation industry manufacturing system......"

"China is not technologically advanced in the aviation industry, and they can't even make power systems......"

For the introduction of Chinese production lines, the Egyptians were excited, to build their own aviation manufacturing industry, and to develop on this basis.

At the same time, there is a great deal of worry.

China's aviation manufacturing industry is too backward.

Muhanad looked at his arguing subordinates and said, "This is a great opportunity for our defense industry. Whether it was the Soviet Union in the past or the current European and American countries, they only wanted us to become a market for the sale of weapons and equipment, and did not want us to have the ability to manufacture weapons. ”

"China's technology is not the most advanced. But it's the best fit for us. They have developed from no industrial base to the present, and these experiences are lacking in us......" Muhanad said, observing the reactions of the crowd.

Everyone sighed.

Indeed it is.

"Minister, the conditions put forward by the Chinese side are too high. At current prices, we need $1.2 billion to get ......," Aliav reminded the minister, "We don't have such a huge budget. ”

"So, the price has to be negotiated. There won't be so many!" Muhanad said firmly.

Both sides had made a decision, and negotiations soon began again.

Every time I negotiated, I was so angry and nervous that I had to pause.

During the pause, it was not idle, and the Egyptian side learned in more detail about China's technological level in the research and development of fighters.

"$7 million, 60 planes, that's the highest we can accept. "Ariav once again raised their prices on behalf of the Egyptian side.

But the other party didn't pay attention to it at all.

"The latest improved model of the J-7 costs tens of millions of dollars. Zheng Yucheng shook his head, "Gentlemen, if you still insist, it will be difficult for our negotiations to continue." ”

For several days in a row, some specific conditions of cooperation between the two sides have been almost discussed.

But there is a difference in the most critical price and quantity.

This transaction is about the production line.

China is not willing to give up the huge potential market and the opportunity to seize the market share of European and American equipment, and Egypt does not want to give up the opportunity to export equipment......

"$10.5 million, 80 planes, if you agree, you can continue to communicate the details of the contract that has not been reached, if you still feel unbearable, I think, don't waste everyone's time. "School has just started, and seeing that the National Day is coming, Xie Kai is being dragged here, which is very disturbing.

After learning about the details of the Shuangfa Super Seven project, Pakistan did not have any opinions and kept urging the signing of the contract, but the Egyptians did not have the consciousness of being slaughtered at all.

They buy high-end equipment from Europe, the United States and the Soviet Union, but they can afford to pay for it!

"Yes, if you don't want a production line, you can buy as much as you want. Zheng Yucheng also said coldly. "If you want an advanced production line, but you are reluctant to pay, is it possible?"