295 Iraq will also send troops to China for training
"Those damn Persians have been staying on your side for this missile?" Issad's sudden question made Xie Kai and Wang Guilin both stunned.
"No, they didn't even know we had such missiles!" Xie Kai immediately denied it.
Joke aside, even if the Iraqis had the evidence, they wouldn't be able to admit it.
Iraqis did not believe his words.
Will the Chinese not sell missiles?
As long as it can be sold to the Iraqis, it is absolutely impossible not to sell it to the Iranians.
"This kind of missile has just had a detailed project plan, and it was originally set up for our army building plan and used for rear tactical support," Wang Gui......lin also said.
He didn't want to lie, so what he said was also true.
The Hongqi-2 anti-aircraft missile was changed to a tactical missile for ground attack, and the higher authorities have agreed in principle.
Agreeing in principle is no different from consenting, as long as they don't fool around.
Most of the projects of the 404 base are developed for foreign customers, and they come for the sake of foreign exchange, and the superiors give autonomy, as long as they do not sell strategic ICBMs or mushroom bombs, it is not a problem.
"You're selling to us if there's no finished product?" Ibrahim felt that they had been tricked, and couldn't help but be angry.
"This can be done much faster than tanks. The team that came with you is our domestic missile expert in this field, and the purpose of coming here is to discuss how to improve it, and the test launch can be carried out within three months, and the ......final model can be finalized within six months."
The transformation of air defense missiles into ground-to-ground missiles is not the kind of guidance method that requires satellite guidance or laser guidance, just like long-range strategic intercontinental missiles, which directly adopt inertial guidance, and this guidance technology is relatively stable.
According to Xie Kai's idea, it is necessary to add a system in the guidance part that can constantly compare and calculate the target and the flight trajectory, and have the ability to correct deviations.
It is entirely possible to make the circumferential error of the missile within 150 meters.
The P-17 tactical missile that the Iraqis obtained from the Soviet Union, that is, the Scud missile known to the outside world, has a circumferential error range of 300 meters, and in the actual use process, it even reaches 1,000 meters away......
The Iraqis know this.
The Chinese have a third less range than the Soviet Union, but the accuracy is double or more, which is acceptable to the Iraqis.
It turned out to tell them that this thing was another plan!
If you want to get it, you have to book first, give money first, and let the Chinese experiment, in case they can't reach their ideal level in the end?
"In the meantime, book in advance and ...... when the time comes"
"Will there be any other customers who will order and you will deliver the missiles that should be delivered to us?" Ibrahim rudely interrupted Xie Kai.
Xie Kai smiled awkwardly, the other party couldn't get over this matter.
"No, the first time it was because the terms of the contract were not fully stated, this time, we can make it clear. At the same time, you can send personnel to supervise the whole process. Xie Kai said.
"What if your superiors give another order?" Ibrahim said in a bad tone.
"Your people are supervising the whole process, and our superiors will not be unprincipled, and they have not violated the contract between us when they gave orders before...... Xie Kai said.
In fact, it doesn't have to be like this, but the 404 base is reluctant to hand over the business to other units.
Avant-garde anti-aircraft missiles can be produced by at least ten or more units in China.
In order to monopolize these, 404 only allocated some parts and components to brother units, and was unwilling to hand over the core guidance part of the technology......
The above can't force 404 to hand it over, so who wants to engage in technology? Just wait for the brother units to come out, ask for technology, and then eat meat.
"We can't believe it. Ibrahim said again.
"By signing the contract this time, we can communicate with our higher authorities, so that there will be no problems. "Xie Kai is serious about the Iraqis.
Iraqis were also a little confused for a while.
If you order these weapons for 404, almost all of them are ordered.
Tanks, armored vehicles, self-propelled guns, and even tactical missiles for long-range support, can only be ordered, and the finished product cannot be seen.
I don't know how long it will take to complete the delivery.
"We're spending money on this equipment that we're not sure about?" Isad asked Ibrahim, "How can we improve our combat effectiveness?"
"If you don't make a reservation, what can you do? At home, your troops' equipment is already the best in the country!" Ibrahim replied with a wry smile, "Even if the Soviets are willing to sell it, their T64 or T80 may not be suitable for our troops." ”
It's not that it doesn't fit, they are afraid that in the end the Soviets will not supply ammunition.
Relations with the Soviet Union are already very bad.
In particular, after purchasing a large number of weapons and equipment from NATO countries, the Soviet Union was even more dissatisfied with Iraq.
"We need equipment for training!" Issad stressed, "without equipment, when will we start training?"
"Don't talk about us, even China and Pakistan are waiting for equipment, maybe the Iranians are waiting. "Ibrahim can't help it.
China's tank project made them tempted, but they could not provide it in a short time.
"As long as they figure it out, it should be delivered to us soon. We need such tanks, equipped with a brigade at most. "We can train people from the very beginning......
"How can you train without equipment?" said Isad.
Ibrahim is standing and talking without low back pain.
"Pick the backbone and send it to China so that they can help us train. The Chinese's new tank was originally developed from the original tank technology, and at the same time, we can train logistics technicians to better understand the tank technology that needs to be repaired and supported!" Harry Mosan, who has not spoken, proposed to send key personnel to China for training.
Start with a prototype car in China, gradually learn about their new equipment, and then go back and train their people.
This is far better than waiting until the supply of equipment is sufficient to train troops, which is not a good thing.
It's too late.
People and other equipment, equipment can be used when it is equipped.
Equip and wait, equip out, and it takes a long time to fully understand.
Issad looked at Harry Mosan, unable to make up his mind for a moment, "We don't know when they will start supplying equipment in bulk. And what we need is performance in the next phase of the war! The president is very unhappy with our performance. ”
Harry Moisan is also from Tikrit, and the entire army, originally consisting of only one division and three brigades, belonged to the Presidential Guard.
Due to the poor performance of the Defense Forces in the war against the Iranians, and the reassurance of the President and his fellow countrymen, it has now been expanded to seven brigades.
So far, however, the performance of the Tikritan division has not met the president's expectations.
It will be further expanded, and how to procure weapons and equipment to make the combat effectiveness higher will fall on the officers of the Tikrit division.
Commander-in-Chief Cusse won't care so much.
Chief of the General Staff Sattar even less had time to take responsibility.
"Our troops must maintain combat effectiveness at all times, and we can't send too many elites to China for training!"
"It doesn't take much, in the early days, it's mainly the backbone commanders and logistics maintenance personnel. "Harry Mosan
Elaborate on your own plan.
It is an indisputable fact that the Tikrite division was expanded.
The equipment from China is only experimental, with a maximum of one division, and the rest is equipped with the most advanced troops that Iraq can obtain.
While the Iraqis were discussing, Xie Kai, Wang Guilin and others were also plotting how to get more money out of the Iraqis' pockets.
If it had been done, they wouldn't have been so entangled, and now all the equipment hasn't been made.
"You shouldn't have promised them to supply first, and then in case the Iranians also ordered, we wouldn't have anything to do. Now the Iranians have been struggling with this problem!" Wang Guilin's biggest concern lies here.
Xie Kai didn't have such worries, "If they book and sign a contract with us, how much can we produce?" In the end, we still have to seek help from Factory 617 and Factory 541 to help ......."
When he brought it up, Xie Kai had already planned it.
When the time comes, the Iraqis will not be able to blame them.
The Iraqis are more in demand for the Type 69 main battle tank, which is not backward in price, simple to operate, and not backward in performance, and the third-generation tanks such as the 359 tank, and the number of needs will not be too much.
Or that it would be more appropriate to not be able to afford too much.
"You kid is so insidious! I thought you really gave up on the Iranian order. Xie Kai's words made Wang Guilin stunned for a while before he came back to his senses.
"Who cares about money? No money, what is the development of our base? Outside, the airport is being repaired, and there are other projects!" Xie Kai pouted and said, not that he wanted to trick people, but that he had no way not to cheat people.
Capital says that the primitive accumulation of capital is bloody.
404 wants to develop, at least it's not bloody, it's just a little shameless.
"How is Lao Zheng talking to the aerospace side? It's been a day!" Xie Kai wondered, isn't most of the conditions for cooperation with aerospace agreed?
Why has there been no result.
"The division of profits. The aerospace side asked for an equal share of profits after it was made, but Lao Zheng disagreed. ”
"Why do they want to take half of the profits?" Xie Kai jumped up, "The project is proposed by us, and the order is also found by us, so they will help with some personnel, technology, and final production, or they take advantage, why share the profits equally?"
"Without their technical support, without their personnel support, would we be able to do it?" Wang Guilin looked at Xie Kai, he was also dissatisfied in his heart, "They just saw this, otherwise it wouldn't be like this." ”
"This matter must not be done according to their requirements, otherwise we will not be able to cooperate in the future. Originally, it was not good for Xie Kai to grab meat from the 404 pot and eat Xie Kai, thinking that the astronauts had a great cause, and the manned space project and the lunar exploration project would be launched in China, Xie Kai would not say anything.
That's state investment, and 404 doesn't have state financial support.