"Private enterprises have natural advantages, and their appearance is good, but at the same time, they will compete with many state-owned enterprises, and I am afraid that those state-owned enterprises are no match for private enterprises. ”

Liu Lang nodded and said.

"You're right, many local governments have raised this point, saying that this will lead to the bankruptcy and closure of state-owned enterprises, alas, in fact, this is the process of reform, so that the vitality of the enterprise is not finished now, sooner or later will be finished, it is better to let this process come sooner. ”

Wu He said.

Reform and opening up is absolutely not a one-time achievement, but is carried out in the midst of numerous contradictions; when private enterprises develop, their products will occupy the market, and then state-owned enterprises will face a crisis, which is the inevitable result.

"Aren't state-owned enterprises now implementing the contracting system? Professor Wu, what do you think of the contracting system?"

Liu Lang asked.

"The contracting system will release the enthusiasm of some employees, but this is just a symptom but not a cure, once a huge problem is encountered, the manager will never take the risk, the owner does not understand the management method, the end of the enterprise is very tragic, so the contracting system is only a process of enterprise development, and ultimately it is necessary to achieve privatization, of course, this privatization is to have limitations, our country is a socialist country, it is impossible to privatize without restrictions, but many irrelevant enterprises, there is no problem at all, the country only needs to master those important means of production。 ”

Wu He replied.

Liu Lang nodded, Wu He's point of view is very close to a kind of "national retreat and democratic advancement" strategy implemented by the state more than ten years later, that is, the country masters these strategic materials such as energy, transportation, electricity, etc., and the remaining commodities are completely handed over to individuals, such as refrigerators, electric fans, televisions, and even cars, the state completely gives up the control of these commodities, and lets you each do it according to your ability, as long as you have the ability, the country will support it, but if you don't have the ability, the country can't do it.

"Professor Wu, I have an idea. ”

Liu Lang suddenly spoke.

"Tell me about it!"

Wu He likes to talk to Liu Lang very much, because the other party always has some "wonderful ideas", and some can even make him feel refreshed.

"Professor Wu, I think now the state should make some attempts to privatize enterprises, such as selling those enterprises that are losing money every year to everyone, so that they can rest assured that they can do it, and the country can also collect taxes if it is bigger, and if it is not done well, it will naturally be eliminated by the market。 ”

"Hehe, Liu Lang, your idea is very creative! The state is carrying out the reform of the special zone, and you have come up with a special enterprise reform, this is a new idea!"

Wu He touched his chin thoughtfully, it seemed that he was a little moved by Liu Lang's idea.

"To put it bluntly, our country's reform and opening up is a kind of change in the economic system, and if the planned economy is not easy to handle, it will have to turn to other economic systems, some people say that they want to engage in the contract system; some people say that they want to engage in the private economy, and no one can say whether these two methods are good or bad, but in the final analysis, it will still fall on the enterprises, and it is necessary to make their products market-oriented, and those that conform to market behavior will survive, and if they do not conform to them, they will decline, so I think that special enterprises are a test of who is good and who is bad in the two ways, and the results are immediate, and they are not as extreme as the special zones, and this kind of attempt is necessary。 ”

Liu Lang continued.

"Liu Lang, you're right, this can indeed test the quality of the two ways, but there is a very important issue in it, I don't know if you have considered it!"

"What's the problem?"

Liu Lang asked.

"That is, in the process of privatization, how to keep the state from suffering, and if the country suffers, that's a big problem. ”

Wu He said.

"I think the state should strictly evaluate the companies that are going to be privatized, and all the things that the private sector wants to leave behind. ”

Liu Lang replied.

"There is no problem with the materials, because they are just left there, and they can't run away, and the most important thing is the employees, once privatized, the interests of these employees will be a big problem, who will pay their salaries? Who will protect their interests? What if they are dismissed by the private sector without reason? In addition, who will give the labor insurance for those retired workers? Will the private owners be willing to bear this part of the expenditure? This is the most important question!"

That's right, that's the core issue of privatization, that is, who will protect the interests of employees.

"I have a solution, Professor Wu, you can listen to it. ”

Liu Lang said.

"Oh, what else can you do about it? Tell me about it!"

Wu He is also thinking about how to protect the interests of employees, but there is never a perfect plan, if this problem cannot be solved, then privatization will become a feast for a few people to gather wealth, which is a fundamental problem that touches the country, and we must be cautious!

"I think so, after the privatization of enterprises, there will inevitably be a part of the staff because of the ability to adapt to the market and be eliminated, this is inevitable, but the state and enterprises can not let it go, to implement the ability training of these people, it is completely possible for the government to contribute a part of the money, the enterprise to pay a part of the money, send them to technical schools for capacity training, such as training for two years, during these two years their wages will be borne by the enterprise and the government, two years later, they have the ability, they can be self-reliant.

However, these trainings are mainly aimed at some young people, and the elderly are not suitable, such as those who are about to retire, they are naturally not among them, what should these people do? I think this can also be borne by the state and enterprises, for example, the establishment of a special account, the annual profit income of enterprises according to a certain proportion of the allocation into this account, the state can also allocate some in the pension account, the wages of retired workers from this account, and the state to achieve strict control of this account, not to allow enterprises to use privately.

What if the enterprise goes bankrupt? Then it is necessary to sell the assets of the enterprise, and the money must be given priority to the pension, and cannot be used for other purposes at will, and even I think that the on-the-job workers are also part of the enterprise, without them, the enterprise cannot develop, so can we also let these employees become shareholders of the enterprise, so that they have certain rights, at least some right to speak, but also let those private entrepreneurs have some pressure, I don't know if my ideas Professor Wu can be used!"

"Uh-huh, yes, yes, yes, very good!"

Wu He's eyes lit up when he heard this, although Liu Lang's method still had some problems, but he provided an idea that he had never thought of before, such as letting employees participate in shares, and employee participation involves the shareholding system, and the combination of privatization and shareholding system, he has never thought of this idea.

Liu Lang's idea was not a whim, it was the result of his careful consideration.