"Othello" is about the greatness of mankind, and "Interstellar" is about the insignificance of mankind?

What is this inexplicable comment?

But Christopher did not get angry, but was full of confusion, because the way Lan Li expressed - human beings are humble in front of nature, and human beings who oppose nature are great, this is "Othello";

In this way, does it mean that the theme of "Interstellar" is more magnificent and profound than that of "Othello"?

Is that what it means?

Christopher was thinking carefully, but Lan Li suddenly stopped, he knew that Lan Li's words must not have finished speaking, his eyes couldn't help but cast his eyes, the emotions of curiosity and anticipation were still not able to hold back after all, and couldn't help but urge, "And then?"

In terms of calmness and wisdom, in terms of treating people and things, Christopher is far from being the opponent of Lan Li.

Lan Li was not complacent, and after breaking Christopher's social mask slightly, he immediately returned to the professional field, kept calm and said again, "But it is precisely because of the vastness and grandeur of time that it also reflects the warmth and eternity of human nature. Even if death separates people from each other, even if time and space become an insurmountable chasm, the bonds of human emotions still cannot be cut or disappear. ”

In the second half of the story of "Interstellar", Cooper is trapped in a hypercube of five-dimensional space-time.

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, it is impossible to go back to the past, even if you enter a high-dimensional space-time and peek into the past, you still can't.

Cooper, who is deeply immersed in the five-dimensional space-time, can see all time, from the past to the future, simply understood as time is a solid linear object, Cooper can see every moment from beginning to end, and then with the help of gravitational waves, it has an impact on what happened at a moment in the past.

Cooper, who entered the hypercube, realized that he seemed to be stuck in an eternal time loop, and he probably never went back, which made him start to panic and panic, and he was afraid, afraid that he would never go back, that he would never be able to fulfill his promise to his daughter.

So, when he saw the past through the five-dimensional space-time, his childhood daughter Murphy.

At that time, Cooper was still on Earth, and Murphy and Tom were still by his side. Cooper tries to use gravitational waves to shake the bookshelf to get Murphy's attention, and reminds Murphy through the book's code, hoping that Murphy can leave his then self on Earth instead of participating in this expedition that he can't go back to.

But, he failed.

Understood from the first dimension, Cooper's single-minded belief in returning home overcomes all odds, like "Othello", writing a human epic, and the setting of the story extends from the sea to space, and the whole grandeur and vastness of the temperament become more and more majestic.

From the second dimension, even if Cooper can't go home, Murphy still firmly believes in his father, and the bond between them transcends the barriers of time and space, which cannot be erased or severed, which is the greatest and most firm core meaning of human existence.

In Lan Li's view, even if "Interstellar" is interpreted from the first dimension, this is already great enough, but if it is only limited to the first dimension, it will inevitably deviate from the original intention of the Nolan brothers to write the script:

Emotion or time, which is more important?

The answer to the first dimension is the former, which is also the perceptual interpretation of human beings from the emotional level, because emotions are rich and complex, and the bonds and connections of joy, anger and sorrow have deduced countless classic masterpieces in the long history of mankind, and have become the foundation of human society.

The answer to the second dimension is the latter, which is to strip away the sensibility and interpret human nature from a rational perspective. After all, human beings cannot defeat time, and the confinement of time and space cannot be broken through after all, but the greatest emotional entanglement of human beings can break through time itself, and the older it gets, the more fragrant it becomes.

In a sense, the interpretation of the second dimension is based on the first dimension, giving more deepening from a philosophical perspective, adding a link of "seeing the mountain is not a mountain", and finally returning to the starting point of "seeing the mountain or the mountain", which also makes the film have more possibilities for interpretation.

Of course, from the director's point of view, there will be no fundamental change in the way the film is filmed, but from the perspective of the writers and actors, there are subtle differences in what they need to add and understand.

In Lan Li's view, the Nolan brothers created the script of "Interstellar", the ideological core is indeed magnificent, and the finished movie does raise human nature to the height of time, but the lack of philosophical speculation makes the huge idea of the movie seem a little simple - the presentation is a little simple, so that it is a bit of a magic stick.

It's not bad, it's not enough.

The great and transcendent Swedish director Ingmar Bergman, the Italian director Federico Fellini, the Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, etc., why can they be called masters?

The fundamental reason is not that they are able to complete philosophical speculation, but that they are able to present this philosophical speculation through the lens and the picture.

The presentation of dreams, the construction of illusions, and the capture of realistic scenes, these scenes without lines are precisely the essence, including those objects or ornaments with metaphors, actions or plots with spiritual refraction, etc., in this way, the deep meaning of the mind and soul level is presented——

Religion, or family, or trauma, or poverty, or disaster, these factors form the current personality and derive the words and deeds of human beings.

If anyone is curious about the difference between a screenwriter and a director, then the pictures of these directors are the best answer. The screenwriter is responsible for telling the story, while the director is responsible for building the whole world. It has been said that Ingmar Bergman's shots are "divine", and this is the shock that movies bring, and even actors and screenwriters can't reach heights.

In Christopher Nolan's finished film, his camera image only presents the first dimension of mystery, which makes the discussion of time and emotion in the film not expand more deeply.

Of course, this is not a criticism.

It's rare for any director to show the core of the first dimension of thought, and it's closer to the level of appreciation of the general public - after all, not everyone is keen to explore the spiritual world and the depth of the soul, which is why Christopher is widely praised as the best director who "finds a balance between business and art", and after Steven Spielberg and James Cameron, he is the third director in the last two decades to receive such an acclaim.

This is not even a discussion and analysis of Lan Li as an actor.

Rather, it is an interpretation of a philosophy lover. In other words, it is actually one of the influences brought about by aristocratic education, and after they have received more influence in philosophy, literature, art, etc., it is inevitable that they still want to explore it more deeply. If it's pure popcorn like "Transformers", then forget it, just relax and enjoy it, but "Interstellar" obviously has more possibilities, so I can't help but explore it.

By the way, the best and powerful candidate in the history of space cinema "2001: A Space Odyssey" is actually "2001: A-Space-Odyssey", in other words, Stanley Kubrick was trying to shoot an Odyssey in outer space.

But the reason why this movie can go down in history is because of what Lan Li just discussed-

Using lenses and pictures to present a more vast content, and to think more on a philosophical level, the film not only explores human nature, but also explores the ultimate speculative topics of divinity and human nature in the majestic starry sky.

This heritage and ability has gone beyond the basic story of the "Odyssey" itself. This is also an important reason why Stanley Kubrick is admired, even Christopher Nolan bowed down to the top director, and in 2018, Christopher took over the film restoration work of "2001: A Space Odyssey", which landed at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival.

Lan Li and Christopher debated.

As one of the screenwriters, Christopher did not give an inch, he believed that the script world he and Jonathan had built was enough to support the entire core idea, and if he went further, the balance between art and commerce would collapse, and Lan Li's speculation and deepening were all reflected in the script, and there was no need to continue to explore. ——

The philosophical debate between emotion and time is too profound and complex to be explored too much in commercial films.

Lan Li did not show weakness, he agreed that the film should give up some of the tedious thinking for the sake of the commercial part, but did not agree with Christopher's view that "this is enough", the film can go deeper at the philosophical level through a simple picture, a flashback, an imagination, a contemplation, etc., etc., one step deeper at the philosophical level, leaving the audience with more room for reflection -

If it is an ordinary audience, then it is good to enjoy it as popcorn, but if you are willing to calm down and think about it, the audience can generate more speculative cores through the movie.

In the midst of the quarrel, Lan Li even released cruel words:

"The reason why 'The Dark Knight' can become a classic is because of the debate between good and evil, even the Joker, no one can completely deny his approach, because he has his own reason for existence, this kind of speculation of both good and evil, is precisely the reason why the movie has risen to a new level. And "Inception" and "The Dark Knight Rise" are just eighty works, and the real reason is that the thinking in the movie is single-threaded, paramecium's way of thinking. ”