"What?paramecium?hell!" Christopher was also angry at Lan Li's accusation, and in a panic, he blurted out foul words, "You're the first guy to accuse my movie of being paramecium! Damn! Are you sure you're watching my movie?"

In the face of Christopher, who was angry in front of him, Lan Li was still that unhurried, when arguing, such a posture and expression really made the other party more and more angry - he had already jumped to his feet, and the other party still looked calm and relaxed, it was so annoying!

"If I hadn't watched your movies or read your scripts, and I could understand all of your core ideas clearly, then what would this not be paramecium?"

At this time, Lan Li was still sitting calmly in the chair, his right leg resting on his left knee, neat clothes, mellow coffee, and smiling expression, and even a trace of sweat could not be seen on his forehead.

But Christopher looked embarrassed and emotional, his hairstyle hanging down messily, sweating profusely soaking his tennis shirt, and his armpits and back were covered in large patches of dark color.

"You...... You are a strong word!" Christopher is also a little short of words, he is not a personality who is good at debating, it can be seen from "following" this debut film, not to mention, there are not many actors in Hollywood who dare to yell at Christopher like this.

But Christopher still didn't give up, "I'm not saying to give up philosophical speculation, but I don't think there's any need to go deeper!

"It's too cumbersome, or can't it be done?" Lan Li's retort hit Christopher like an arrow, "Stanley Kubrick didn't cram a lot of lines into '2001: A Space Odyssey', on the contrary, he also deliberately streamlined the lines, but through the editing and cohesion of the picture, the philosophical speculation was conveyed, not too cumbersome, and it didn't need to be too cumbersome, because the construction process of these pictures is the process of philosophical speculation!"

"How do you build (Ho)?" Christopher replied straightly, and when it is extremely excited and impulsive, the mind's ability to think will also be affected.

"I don't know. Lan Li's answer was also crisp and neat, "I'm not a director, how do I know?"

"But you're not a screenwriter either, so why is the discussion so hot?" Christopher also showed his unyielding and relentless side.

Lan Li shrugged, "Why can't it be in the form of flashbacks? For example, Cooper's mind repeats the image of Murphy running in front of him, or the image of Murphy treading water in red rain boots, or the image of Murphy seriously holding a pencil to draw, I mean, it is a small detail, but it becomes the most important concern." ”

For Murphy, she could have done it a different way. When she encounters a book, or sees a middle-aged man's actions, or a familiar scene she encounters at work, or a small movement created by Cooper in the five-dimensional space that is really imprinted in her mind, she can't help but think of her father again. And so on and so forth. ”

"Murphy is different from Cooper, Cooper is trapped in space, he can only rely on memory flashbacks, but Murphy is still on Earth, her life can still be full of hints and associations, and even what Cooper does in the five-dimensional space can cause a butterfly effect. ”

Through these two different montages, the maintenance and bonding of family affection are presented. More importantly, the emphasis is on the dislocation of time - Cooper's memories are always Murphy's childhood scenes, but Murphy has grown up, and in Murphy's eyes, she sees images of her father transmitted back from space. ”

"What I mean is that on the premise of not affecting the rhythm of the plot, without affecting the commercial attributes of the film, after amplifying the power of time to the extreme, but deepening the emotional connection through the performances of the two actors, as for how to compose the picture, how to think, and what kind of spiritual refraction is revealed in those pictures, this is the director's job. ”

Lan Li's speech speed is not fast, and he always maintains a special rhythm and rhyme, which is clear and hierarchical.

This time, Christopher didn't interject, but listened attentively, pondering the feasibility, and then further pondering the composition of the picture.

Objectively speaking, picture composition is not Christopher's strong point, but strong imagination and spatial deconstruction and temporal linearity are. In this regard, Canadian director Denis Villeneuve has the potential to become great.

In 2010's "Scorched Earth City", Dennis's lens temperament has been revealed, this year he and Jake Gyllenhaal have collaborated on two works, "Rivals" and "Prisoner", and after that, "Border Killer", "Arrival" and "Blade Runner 2049" three works are step by step, towards the road of master, fast progress.

However, Dennis's shortcomings are also very obvious: tempo control. He often had to sacrifice his narrative rhythm for the sake of the poetry of the picture and the elaboration of the core, which ran through all his works, which also became a shackle for him to achieve more in business. And that's where Christopher's strength comes in.

As it has been said, it is already very difficult to explore the limits of the commercial or artistic level, and not every director can find the key to creation, let alone find the balance between business and art, which is an eternal problem.

Lan Li is an actor, he is responsible for telling his understanding and opinions, but all this is limited to paper, he is a complete rookie in the actual combat stage, and the director's job is definitely not as simple as imagined;

Christopher's expression is very exciting, one moment excited, one moment sluggish, one moment excited, one moment confused, even if he is a one-man show, he is endlessly happy.

But in the end, Christopher let out a long breath, "No, this can't work, do you know how difficult it is to build a shot? It's not just about depth of field and composition, every character, every accessory, every detail has a meaning, it's a very, very large project." If you simply cramp those memories crudely in, then the whole core of the theme can become cumbersome. ”

"When we were filming Inception, we had spent a lot of effort to conceive the totem of each person after entering the dream, as well as all the scenes in the dream. In fact, Jonathan and I would have liked to have made the dream scene more meaningful, but it wasn't that easy to take into account psychology, philosophy, history, culture, and so on. ”

"I remember that after the movie came out, some critics said that the whole movie of 'Inception' was based on a whimsical idea, but as a director, I still relied too much on the text and failed to draw out the deep meaning of the shot. I scolded the critic in front of Emma for making a commercial film, not Shakespeare. ”

"But...... Now I kind of understand, what you mean is that through the setting of some screen content, there is no need to change the script, and there is no need to be too cumbersome, and the director's thoughts are conveyed through the camera, right?"

As he spoke, Christopher looked up at Lan Li and cast an inquiring gaze.

Lan Li deliberately made a "sudden realization" appearance, "Oh, are you talking to me, because you looked like you were talking to yourself......" Christopher rolled his eyes speechlessly, and Lan Li didn't continue to joke, "Yes, that's what I meant." I know that this is a very difficult, very complex and very advanced subject, but ...... Mr. Nolan. ”

"Chris. ”

“…… Chris," Lan Li paused, and the guest nodded casually and changed his salutation.

"I always think that the reason why you took over the 'Interstellar' project is that you want to be able to explore more in the film, and at the same time, chase more at the directorial level.

I always believe that the reason why a movie is called a director's art is not in the script or the actors, and even the story must take a back seat, the picture and lens are the most important, scheduling, composition, editing, setting, etc., which are the most artistic aspects of the director. ”

In the face of Lan Li's words, Christopher did not criticize or affirm, but chuckled, "According to your meaning, Michael Bay is also an excellent director?"

"Personally, I'm still a big fan of 'Death Island' and 'Transformers'. Lan Li replied in the affirmative.

Christopher thought about it seriously, but found that he had no way to refute it, people can complain that Michael Bay is still a three-board axe, but it cannot be denied that he is still the best in the industry in terms of camera scheduling and explosion scenes.

As a result, Christopher laughed dumbly and gently bowed his head in agreement, and now he finally truly understands why industry insiders always emphasize that "Lan Li is an actor with ideas".

For the performance, for the role, for the core, etc., Lan Li's interpretation is indeed unique, and more importantly, Lan Li has his own profound analysis of the correlation between the character and the plot, which is irreplaceable for the integrity of the film work. In the process of cooperation between directors and actors, different sparks can often collide.

Christopher even thinks that even if Lan Li works with a director like James Cameron, who emphasizes visual effects and weakens the actors, he can interpret his own characteristics.

It's like "Fast & Thrill/Emotion 5".

"Do you have any special ideas for Cooper if you were to play Cooper?" Christopher said for the first time today.