Chapter 113: The Expert's Collapse

The live connection is activated.

This expert named Wang Kun appears in the picture, and the background of the picture is supposed to be a conference room, but it seems that he is there alone, and there is no one else.

After Wang Kun reported to his home, he said: "Host, if I correct the mistakes of your program, you won't be angry, right?"

Li Li smiled lightly and said sincerely: "This friend, don't worry, our show can not only accept praise, but also bear criticism."

We are eager to get real feedback from our audience and are willing to listen to different voices.

No show is flawless, limited by our limited ability and insufficient ability, we may have mistakes or fallacies, which is inevitable. In particular, we hope that the audience will give us feedback in time after discovering the problem.

If we have it, we will change it, and if we don't, we will encourage it!"

Barrage flies:

"Generous!"

"Teacher Li is great!"

"Teacher Li's attitude is so sincere!"

"I'm also an expert, I'm an expert in micro-expressions, I look at my face at night, Mr. Li's words are born from my heart!"

"I'll pinch my fingers, this one who makes micro-expressions is a profession with me!"

……

Wang Kun saw that Li Li had a good attitude, and said, "Okay, host, then let's communicate!" He took out a thick notebook from his file bag and took out a pen.

Li Li was secretly surprised, did his homework so well? Li Li hurriedly said: "Excuse me, this friend, how many wrong views have you found in our show?"

"Wait a minute!" Wang Kun flipped through the pages, counting constantly, "1, 2, 3...... 18 out of 18!"

The barrage was in an uproar!

"Huh, 18?"

"Is it so miserable? Is the show so flawed?"

"It was so unexpected!"

"It seems that we are laymen after all, people are insiders to watch the doorway, we laymen just look at the excitement every issue!"

"Today's live broadcast is over, Mr. Li's news is going to explode!"

"Mourn, Mr. Li!"

……

Li Li looked at the screen in amazement, if he was really wrong so much, he could directly take the blame and resign.

Wang Kun said: "These incorrect remarks appear in the following films, "Pansi Cave", "Kanto Woman", "Poisonous Kiss", ...... Let's talk about "Pansi Cave" first. ”

Li Li nodded, and quickly took a sip of water to moisten his throat.

Wang Kun picked up the pen and swiped it word by word on the notebook, "First of all, the first question, saying that "Pansi Cave" is the earliest movie with the theme of "Journey to the West", this is a serious mistake! The host has failed to verify it! Before "Pansi Cave", there were already movies with the theme of "Journey to the West" in China. ”

As soon as Wang Kun turned the next page, Li Li said: "I know that Tianyi Film Company's 1926 production of "Sun Xingzhi vs. Money Leopard" played by the famous movie star Butterfly, and "Zhu Bajie Recruiting Relatives" produced by Great China Film Company in 1926 are all before "Pansi Cave". ”

Wang Kun raised his head in surprise: "Then why do you still say that "Pansi Cave" is the earliest one?"

Li Lidao: "What I said in my show is that "Pansi Cave" is the first one that has far-reaching influence and has been successful at the box office. Maybe I didn't explain the details in the show?"

Barrage:

"It's clear!"

"Experts should only see a single sentence, not linked to the context. ”

"Don't examine the question carefully, this ugly big brother!"

……

Li Li said: "In the mid-to-late 20s of the 20th century, my country ushered in the 'competitive shooting trend' of ancient costumes, gods and monsters, and martial arts films, especially around 1927, the film industry set off a 'Journey to the West fever', of course, the theme of Journey to the West is also very hot now.

From 1926 to 1929, nearly thirty films related to Journey to the West alone were filmed.

However, all copies of "Journey to the West" films from this period have disappeared.

The 60-minute fragment of "Pansi Cave" broadcast by our movie channel last night is the earliest existing "Journey to the West" movie in my country, and it is also the earliest existing monster film.

In terms of the sensational effect, box office, topicality and other aspects of the film, "Pansi Cave" is the only model of this period, and other Journey to the West films in the same period have little impact.

The movie copy of "Pansi Cave" was rushed to buy by Nanyang, and it also successfully entered Europe.

Maybe many friends don't know much about the movies of the Republic of China, but in fact, the movies at that time had overseas sales channels, including Nanyang, the Philippines, island countries, Annam, Europe, South America, and island countries.

At that time we not only imported, but also exported. ”

"Uh......" Wang Kun's old face flushed, and he drew a pen in his notebook, "I didn't see this clearly, not counting, let's go next." ”

Barrage: ??" Poof!"

"Haha!"

"Die before you get out of the school!"

"Teacher Li successfully escaped the first difficulty, and there are still 17 difficulties left!"

……

Li Li smiled: "Friend, who are you next?"

"In the show, you commented that "Pansi Cave" is well-made and heavily invested. I disagree.

"The History of the Development of Chinese Films" talked about the film: 'The artistic treatment is shoddy!'

Master Zhang Qiang said in "A Brief History of Films in the Republic of China": "The movie scenes are rough and mediocre"

Director Wang Shuai saidβ€”β€”"

Li Li interrupted: "Then what do you say?"

"I? I watched "Pansi Cave" last night, and it is indeed quite rough, and it is not in line with what you said about heavy investment and excellent production! Netizens said right?"

Instant response to the barrage:

"This one is, it's pretty rough!"

"Well, this scholar is not talking nonsense!"

"That makes sense! Mr. Li, you have to admit this, it's really blowing it up. ”

"Many film scholars have criticized this film for being rough, so it must be really rough!"

……

In the face of the unanimous defection of netizens, Li Li smiled lightly and said:

"The History of Chinese Film" was written in 1998, and "A Brief History of the Republic of China Film" was written in 2001...... These scholars themselves have not had the opportunity to watch "Pansi Cave", so what qualifications do they have to comment on the film conclusively?

What is the material? Is the material hearsay? Is it the criticism of some predecessors?

To evaluate a movie, you must at least have seen it with your own eyes, right?"

"......" Wang Kun: "But, but now we have a chance to see it, it's really rough!"

Li Li: "Compared with the old film and the present, it must look rough. Moreover, this kind of monster film must be rough compared with other types of films of the same period.

Cave kilns, weapons, monster shapes, barren mountains...... Together, these elements are absolutely not fashionable in urban dramas, and a pile of stones can't compare the picture with the interior of the villa, right?"

Netizens turned against each other again, and they didn't hesitate:

"Well, that makes sense!"

"Now I'm on Mr. Li's side!"

"That's the reason, in a cave, and it's also a Pansi cave, it can't be magnificent, right?"

"Especially silent films, it's still from that era!"

"Actually, I think the look in the Pansi Cave should be rougher. ”

……

Wang Kun shook his head: "Host, I don't agree with your statement! I watched the film yesterday, and I don't think this film will invest a lot of money, and it will definitely not reach your heavy investment." ”

Li Li asked: "Expert Wang, where do you see that the investment is not large?"

"It's obvious, the main scenes are in the cave, how much can it cost? Host, how can you see that this film is well-made with a lot of investment? Forgive me for my clumsiness, I can't see it!"

Heh, so your opinion is based on your own speculation?

Li Li couldn't laugh or cry, "Why do I say that "Pansi Cave" is well-made, here is some information.

Before talking about these materials, let's popularize the purchasing power of 'one dollar' at that time, which is equivalent to more than 70 yuan now.

First of all, let's talk about clothing, spider spirit costumes of thousands of yuan, made of beads and diamonds, tassels hang around, dazzling;

Sun Xingzhi's transformation into a monkey soldier plot, a group performance of 500 people, 500 sets of costumes, this cost, 5 yuan per set, a total of 2,500 yuan.

The monkey-shaped mask of the Monkey King, which was purchased from abroad for hundreds of dollars, was given up because it was not suitable!

As for the setting of Pansi Cave, it is actually very complicated. In particular, the work of the bath is particularly delicately arranged, and a heat transfer device is even installed at the bottom of the pool for heating. A lot of budgets are not visible to everyone.

……

In order to increase the excitement of the film, the director kept improving, in addition to using turtles and rabbits, he also deliberately trained the eagle, in order to show the plot of the eagle taking away the spider's clothes in the film.

The eagle did come out of training, and his clothes were really picked up, but the eagle flew away and never returned, and by the way, he threw his clothes into the toilet.

……

The film was shot using underwater photography, which was the first underwater photography in recorded China;

……

To sum up, it is not an exaggeration to say that the director strives for perfection in the film and spends a lot of money! As for the so-called 'shoddy production' by some people, I think it is still neglected.

Next question. ”

"Uh, that's good!" Wang Kun scratched his head in embarrassment and began to turn the page.

Netizens laughed:

"Mr. Li's understanding of movies is really too comprehensive, and he knows everything in front of and behind the scenes!"

"The expert is listing the comments of today's people and speculating on themselves. Mr. Li, go directly to the data! Give the information directly behind the scenes! Awesome!"

"If you look at Mr. Li's opinion, can it be said that many of those who make up film history are talking nonsense?"

"Oh, don't believe them too much, even some university scholars, the books they write have gone bad for various reasons. ”

……

Wang Kun said again: "Host, the following question is a big problem, "Pansi Cave" sells se, and uses it as a selling point, is this a disadvantage of the film?"

Li Li chuckled, "Please continue." ”

Wang Kun began to list the evidence, reading the information he had compiled:

At the beginning of the film's release, "Beiyang Pictorial" believed that the film was a big seller, and the degeneration of art was also spectacular.

"The History of the Development of Chinese Films" believes that the films of Shanghai Film Company "...... I still don't forget to intersperse the shots of women everywhere, and the customs are ......"

At that time, the media ridiculed "Pansi Cave" as "a new achievement in the 'strip party' film invented by Shanghai Company to carry out its expansionβ€”β€”"

Li Li interrupted and corrected: "It's a 'stripping party', not a 'stripping party'!"

"Uh...... I'll check it out later. ”

Laughter broke out in the lounge, and everyone secretly gave Li Li a thumbs up and whispered:

"Teacher Li, you are amazing!"

"You can also correct people's mistakes, haha!"

"Isn't that a blow to people's self-confidence?"

……

Wang Kun listed a series of social critical voices at the time of the film screening, and then he said: "Host, you can't deny it, this film uses se-love as a selling point, which cannot be avoided, and it is precisely because it is vulgar that it is banned by the Republic of China!"

At this point, it can't be called a classic film, because the idea is crooked!"

Li Li said: "This question is actually a game between New Wave ideas and Weidolph, and I don't want to debate it, because even today, if there is a nude scene in a movie, it will attract countless criticisms."

There will be no result in this debate, because conservatives will always exist. I want to talk about some other things, and the netizens in front of the screen think about it for themselves.

Dan Du Yu, the director of "Pansi Cave", was a painter himself, and in 1916 he co-founded the Shanghai Literature and Art Society, served as the president, and edited and published "Beauty World".

In 1919, Dan Du Yu published my country's first personal comic collection - "National Shame Painting"!

This is a cartoon that criticizes the invaders and exposes traitors and traitors, and the director is a patriotic painter with a very rebellious spirit.

However, Du Yu is very active in the art world, especially good at the creation of female themes, and is very persistent in the display of female beauty in his works, which is vividly shown in the film "Pansi Cave".

He has some connections with Shanghai Academy of Fine Arts. Shanghai Art College, formerly known as 'Shanghai Painting Art Academy'.

The first principal, Liu Haisu, pioneered the Republic of China, pioneered coeducation, and opened a human body sketching class.

In 1914, only boys were hired as models, and in 1917, an exhibition of achievements was held to display human body exercises. was abused by the principal of the girls' school: 'Liu Haisu is an art traitor and a thief in the education world!'

For a while, the public opinion circles were full of scolding.

On July 20, 1920, Liu Haisu hired a female model Chen Xiaojun, and the girl appeared in the studio for the first time.

On August 24, 1925, Jiang Shu Province held an education conference and officially passed the proposal to ban models.

In June 1926, the warlord Sun Chuanfang ordered the closure of the Shanghai Art College, banned human sketching, and arrested Liu Haisu.

This is the social background of the filming of "Pansi Cave".

If Dan Du Yu, as a pure businessman, simply adds large-scale shots for commercial interests, it is very dangerous in this highly sensitive period.

Moreover, in terms of publicity, film works far exceed painting works countless times, and this move in order to make money is simply sending people to death.

When we evaluate this "Pansi Cave", we can't just watch the film and ignore its creator. The creator is the soul of the film.

But Du Yu is different from many directors in that he is an artist, and he is also an artist full of rebellious spirit.

The confrontation between "Pansi Cave" and the times is actually the confrontation between the artist and the Guardian.

I don't want to discuss which is right and which is wrong, because even today, how many people scoff at body painting?

There are as many open-minded people as there are stubborn people, this is a discussion that will never lead to results, the next question!"

In the picture, Wang Kun frowned, he felt that Li Li seemed to be quite reasonable.

Turning another page, there was footsteps outside the screen, and soon a man with glasses in his 40s walked into the screen.

The man with glasses: "Lao Wang, what are you doing?"

"Live with Li Li. ”

The man with glasses looked at the picture and exclaimed, "Yo, isn't this Li Li?

The man with glasses said again: "Lao Wang, have you really discussed it with Teacher Li?"

"Hmm!"

"Convincing?"

"Convincing!"

"Okay, you!" The man with glasses patted Wang Kun on the shoulder.

"I mean, I'm convinced!"

"......" The man with glasses turned to the screen, "Mr. Li, I am a scholar who studies film and television, yesterday I watched "Pansi Cave" with Lao Wang, and found a lot of problems, let's talk to you!

Li Li nodded: "Of course you can!"

Barrage:

"What are you doing, what are you doing?"

"Bullying people in a group?"

"The expert group is here?"

"Teacher Li, hold on!"

"I don't think these experts are in good shape!"

……

The man with glasses and Wang Kun looked at the screen, looked at each other, and smiled awkwardly at each other.

The man in glasses sneered and said, "Then I won't ask, you guys are busy." ”

Li Li smiled: "It's okay, it's okay, it's just a discussion, it's not a personal attack, it's just a matter of facts, it's a collision of different points of view." ”

The man with glasses said, "Then I really said it?"

Li Li nodded: "Okay!"

Man in the eye: "This film is shoddy, and it can't be talked about at all-"

"Ahem...... Wang Kun pulled him down, "This question is over." ”

"Oh. The man with glasses lowered his head and flipped through Wang Kun's notebook, "You didn't ask this?" Mr. Li, our next question is, your program says that the original movie is 97.5 minutes long, which is wrong!"

Li Li asked knowingly: "How can you see it?"

"We have proof! The record in the "Special Issue" is the 10 major books of "Pansi Cave", about 88 minutes! You are wrong about this basic common sense question!"

Li Li said with a smile: "But the records in "Ping An Film" are 11 books!"

Wang Kun revived, and sat up straight in an instant: "The "Special Issue" is extremely well-known, and we have never heard of "Ping An Film", so the information should naturally be subject to the "Special Issue". ”

The man with glasses nodded: "Yes!"

Li Li said with a smile: "It's true that no one has heard of "Ping An Cinema", but it is the internal record of Ping An Cinema!"

Wow!

The entire barrage exploded in an instant:

"In such a remote place, you can find the internal records of a movie theater?"

"My mother, Mr. Li's research is too remote!"

"When this sentence comes out, it's a lore!"

"Kill! It's like studying historical figures and digging through the local county annals!"

……

In front of the screen, a man about 45 years old was looking at his daughter's live broadcast interface in surprise, and the whole person was stunned, "Oh my God, I don't know!"

The girl turned around and asked, "Dad, don't even know you, the vice president of the Beijing Film Academy?"

Wang Jingqi shook his head, "I don't know, I checked the information, the premiere of "Pansi Cave" was held at the Shanghai Central Theater, even if the normal thinking is to go to the Shanghai Central Theater for verification, who will go to the Ping'an Cinema for verification?

"Dad, those two experts?"

"Hey, civics!"

"The prefix of the country!"

"Your uncle's little brother's "Huaguo University of Economics and Business" is still a national prefix, pheasant school!"

……

Netizens on the barrage were amazed, but after all, they are not professionals, far less shocked than Wang Jingqi and he felt, after all, the more professional he is, the more he knows the terrible depth and breadth of Li Li's professionalism.

Li Li made a few words of understatement, and he frightened the vice president of the Beijing Film Academy!

The two experts are not convinced!

Wang Kun said: "There are 10 books recorded in the "Special Issue", and that peace-"

Li Li: ""Peace Record"!"

"There are 11 copies recorded in the "Ping An Film", these two are contradictory, and normally this controversy should be put aside, but "Special Issue" is a publication for Shang Beach, this kind of clerical error will not appear, and "Ping An Film" is just a record of the theater, and there is a great possibility of a clerical error by the staff!"

The man with glasses nodded: "Yes, that makes sense!"

Li Li smiled: "There is another fact that you have overlooked.

The "Special Issue" was printed before the release of "Pansi Cave" and is only a function of the film preview.

"Ping An Film" is a screening arrangement made by the theater according to the actual length of the film copy. If this is wrong, it won't be easy!

One is a teaser and the other is a fact that has already happened. ”

There was a cheer from the barrage, and it was another punch!

Wang Kun was a little impatient, after all, with so many pairs of eyes looking at it, his face was about to be lost, it was too embarrassing, and people became excited, and some strong words were used to find face, "Although it is a preview, but after all, it is a big publication, and it also announces a reduction in grain production, do we believe the news of Jisen Satellite TV, or do we believe hearsay?"

Barrage:

"Hearsay!"

"Hearsay!"

"Haha, hearsay!"

……

Wang Kun was stunned, this ...... Damn, the example failed!

The man with glasses said: "The contradiction recorded in the "Special Issue" and "Ping An Video", whether the length of the film is about 88 minutes or 97.5 minutes, we will put it aside for the time being, and no one can convince anyone. ”

"Wait a minute," Li Li said, "I still have evidence here!"

Wang Kun: "......"

Man in glasses: "......"

Everyone: Can't you just finish together?

Li Li said: "Zheng Yimei recalled that Du Yu said when he was filming "Heirloom" in 1926: 'There are eleven books. At this time, there are either eleven or nine films, and there are rarely ten books, because ten books are homophonic as 'eclipse books' is very unlucky. ’”

Wang Kun interrupted: "There are exceptions to everything, this is just the director's habit, habits can be changed, this cannot be used as evidence!"

Li Li smiled: "That's good! We contacted the National Library of Norway before, and got the following set of information: the only copy of "Pansi Cave" at that time was 1950 meters long, 1200 meters were preserved, and the screening time of 1200 meters was nearly 60 minutes.

We can calculate the original length of the Norwegian version of "Pansi Cave" to 97.5 minutes!"

In the lounge, all the employees of the [Jisen Online] APP applied, and the applause was sent instantly!

Everyone couldn't hold back their excitement and admired it!

On the screen, a large wave of praise floated by:

"This work attitude! This strict attitude to do the show! I am waiting for a role model!"

""The Movie Viewing Guide is too awesome, and Li Li is too awesome!"

"I didn't expect that behind the show, Li Li put in so much effort!"

"The program is so rigorous! I even contacted the National Library of Norway directly? Are you doing a film review program, or are you doing academic research?"

"I don't know any film review show in the market that can be so rigorous!"

"Serve, offer my knees!"

Wang Kun was shocked, this evidence was too unexpected!

The man with the eyes is confused, and he is so professional that he is perverted! You are too rigorous, right?

Li Li paused, looked at the barrage running wildly, and looked at the two experts who doubted life on the screen, he smiled lightly, and just said lightly:

There is also circumstantial evidence, in 2011, Tina found that the 1,200-meter copy of "Pansi Cave" was preserved in seven barrels. That's an average of 171.4 meters per barrel!

And the total length of the copy is 1950 meters, 1950 divided by 171.4, and the result is 11.4, which is exactly 11 copies!

This is also one of the evidences that there are a total of 11 copies of the film, with a duration of 97.5.

Do you still have questions?"

When Wang Kun and the man with glasses heard this, they shook their heads in unison.

The barrage cheered:

"Teacher Li is mighty!"

"You are so professional and dedicated!"

"It turns out that every subtlety that people don't care about is full of your enthusiasm for work!"

"You deserve to be on fire, you really deserve to be on fire! Who is so serious about making a show? You have put a lot of effort into every little detail!"

……

The vice president's house.

The girl said excitedly: "Dad, do you still allow me to chase stars this time?" I just like Li Li, what do you say!"

Wang Jingqi pointed to the screen excitedly, "This star, you can chase it!!"

In the dense barrage, the "faces" of the two experts have disappeared.

Wang Kun wiped his sweat, "Well, let's discuss the next film." ”

"Yes, the next one!" the eyed man thought for a moment, "That, you guys are discussing, I still have some things, so I won't get involved!"

Wang Kun flipped through the notebook, "The next one is-"

"Wait a minute," Li Li suddenly interrupted, "Is it my turn to ask questions?"

Wang Kun was stunned, and an ominous premonition came through the screen, at this time, it would be good if the network was disconnected, and it would not be so embarrassing!

Li Lidao: "Regarding the 60-minute "Pansi Cave" that aired last night, you didn't find any other bigger problems?"

"Uh......" Wang Kun was sweating, no, I didn't find it!

Li Li said: "Think about it carefully!"

Netizens instantly became excited:

"Teacher Li, ask him to death!"

"You have to fight back against him, although with the purpose of discussing together, this level is not very good!"

"I just went to Baidu, the Huaguo Film Society is an ordinary non-governmental organization, don't be scared by the national character!"

"Teacher Li, ask him to death!"

"Yes, he couldn't say a word when asked!"

……

The barrage surged into Wang Kun's eyes, and he ......

"Uh......" Wang Kun raised his right hand to wipe his sweat, and his left hand sneaked into the network cable.

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