Chapter 241: Do what you can
Feng Xiaochen looked at Deng Zongbai and asked, "Director Deng, I remember you said that you are from a technical background, do you know the key technology of large fertilizer equipment?"
"Of course I do. Pen & Fun & Pavilion www.biquge.info" Deng Zongbai said without hesitation, "I've been engaged in chemical fertilizer for more than 20 years, Director Feng, you don't think I'm really a wine bag rice bag, right?"
Feng Xiaochen said: "I didn't say that, I just want to ask, what does Director Deng think about the gap between my country and foreign countries in large fertilizer equipment?"
"Well...... Deng Zongbai took a deep breath and said, "This is a long story. To put it simply, fertilizer equipment manufacturing includes three links, the first is process technology and engineering design, the second is equipment manufacturing, and the third is complete sets of equipment. There are also three departments: design institute, chemical equipment factory, and chemical installation company.
In terms of process technology and engineering design, we only have the design ability of small and medium-sized fertilizer plants, and have no experience in the design of large-scale fertilizer plants. ”
"Well, that's the first aspect. Feng Xiaochen responded.
"The second aspect is equipment manufacturing. The situation in our country is 12 words: the categories are complete, the ability is very large, and the level is not high. In the 520,000 tons of urea plant, there are 83 main types of equipment, a total of 151 units, we have roughly analyzed, all of them, we are able to manufacture. Deng Zongbai said.
"Can they all be manufactured?" Feng Xiaochen said in surprise, "Director Deng, what you said is a bit too much, right?"
Deng Zongbai said with a wry smile: "It's not too much at all. Truth be told, we can all make it. A few years ago, we asked foreign design institutes to help design a set of 520,000 tons of urea plant, except for a small amount of equipment and instruments imported, other equipment is manufactured by our domestic enterprises, and has been completed and put into production. ”
Feng Xiaochen thought for a moment in his heart and said: "I know which set of equipment you are talking about, that is, the one of the Haijiang Chemical General Plant, right? I remember that the operation of that set of equipment is not very good, and it has not reached half of the design capacity after more than a year of operation, and the Haijiang Chemical General Plant has a very big opinion on this matter." ”
Deng Zongbai smiled awkwardly: "Isn't it just that the opinions are very big? As I said earlier, we have a complete range of categories, great capabilities, and we can manufacture all kinds of equipment we need." But there is another sentence in the back, that is, the level is not high. To be exact, the overall level is not high. The quality of domestically manufactured equipment is more than half that of equipment imported from abroad.
For example, the annual corrosion rate of the lining of people's high-voltage equipment is about 0.05 mm, and we can reach more than 0.15 mm, which is more than double the design permit. ”
"Why?" Feng Xiaochen asked.
"The quality of the pipes is not good, there are metallurgical defects. If imported pipes are used, the cost is too high. There are also welding materials and technologies that are not good, and the inspection methods cannot keep up...... In short, there are many problems. Deng Zongbai said. He really deserves to be as he advertises, a person who has been engaged in fertilizer equipment for more than 20 years, and when it comes to these things, he is like a treasure, and he does not have the muddy appearance of a few days ago.
"I see. What about the third aspect, that is, the complete set of equipment capabilities. Feng Xiaochen continued to ask.
Deng Zongbai said: "There are many problems in this regard, we do not have a very mature chemical equipment installation company, most of the installation companies only have construction experience in small and medium-sized projects, and no construction experience in large-scale chemical equipment." If we want to make a big fertilizer ourselves, this aspect is also a difficulty. ”
Feng Xiaochen nodded, he had done some research on the localization of fertilizer equipment, but when he heard Deng Zongbai say this today, he had some more intuitive impressions. He thought for a moment and asked, "Director Deng, if we propose to the Japanese side this time to transfer technology and cooperate in manufacturing, what are your plans?"
"Well, of course, the more the merrier. Deng Zongbai said, "It's best if all the technology can be transferred to us." The design process of large fertilizers is patented, and we can purchase their patent licenses. Since it is introduced once, it is natural to learn all the skills. ”
"What about the co-made part?" Feng Xiaochen asked again.
"This ...... It may be necessary to do what you can. Deng Zongbai said, when he said this, his tone was a little lower, and he seemed to feel a little embarrassed.
Feng Xiaochen understood his subtext, this is what it means to retreat in the face of difficulties. He asked, "What kind of equipment do you mean to do what you can?"
"Synthesis Tower, this is what we can do. We haven't made a carbon dioxide stripper that big at the moment, but if the Japanese side can transfer technology and provide some guidance, I think it won't be a problem to take it down. Then there are high-pressure scrubbers, reformer furnaces, waste heat boilers, which we don't have a problem with. Deng Zongbai snapped his fingers and said to Feng Xiaochen.
"What about the five major compressor units, how many can you take?" Feng Xiaochen asked.
"This ...... I'm afraid it's a bit difficult. Deng Zongbai said sneeringly.
The so-called five major compressor units refer to air compressor units, natural gas compressor units, syngas compressor units, ammonia compressor units and carbon dioxide compressor units, which are the core equipment of large fertilizer equipment and the most difficult equipment to manufacture. The manufacture of such equipment tests the ability of materials, manufacturing processes, processing accuracy, etc., which are precisely the weakest links of Chinese enterprises.
Deng Zongbai is well aware of the company's capabilities, and he knows that it is almost impossible to break through these obstacles in the short term. And the Marina side couldn't give them more time, so he had to choose to give up the equipment.
"Okay, can you please write a material from Director Deng, and list the part you can bear as the content of our negotiation with the Japanese side for cooperative manufacturing. As for the five major compressor units, we can ask the Japanese side to transfer technology, and Xinyang No.2 Chemical Machinery will work with several other large chemical equipment companies to break through the existing technical barriers in the shortest possible time and master the manufacturing technology of the five major compressor units as soon as possible, what do you think?" Feng Xiaochen asked.
"Absolutely. Deng Zongbai breathed a sigh of relief. It's so easy to order your own food. They can't do the five major compressor units, and he is sure to make those synthesis towers, air strippers and the like. These things are all big guys with a diameter of more than ten meters or even tens of meters, and the diameter is several meters thick, although the profit cannot be compared with the compressor unit, but it is enough to make the Xinyang Erhua machine full of food.
Before he could finish his happiness, Feng Xiaochen asked again: "As for the part you promised to bear, once an agreement is reached with the Japanese side, you must complete it on time and in quality, can this be done?"
"Of course it can be done, my old Deng is willing to make a military order. Deng Zongbai patted his chest and said.
Feng Xiaochen said: "That's great." I have considered a plan and am about to discuss it with Director Wang and Director Niu. I think that in this introduction work, all the equipment that is subcontracted by the Japanese side to domestic enterprises will be adopted on a lump sum basis. The payment in the early stage is regarded as the arrears of the enterprise, and it must be converted into enterprise income after the equipment is delivered to Japan for acceptance. If the equipment submitted by the enterprise cannot meet the quality requirements of the Japanese side, and the loan cannot be paid within the specified time after rework, the payment will be recovered. ”
"What did you say?" Deng Zongbai's eyes widened, "Recover the payment?"
"yes. Feng Xiaochen said calmly, "If your products are unqualified, why should customers pay? Not only do you not need to pay, but you also have to compensate for project liquidated damages according to the contract, because the unqualified products you provide will lead to the delay of the project, and the customer will suffer losses."
In addition, the funds invested by the state to update your equipment, as well as the funds spent on the purchase of foreign patents, must sign a letter of responsibility. If you are unable to master the imported technology within the specified time, or if the manufactured products do not meet the requirements of the introduction, the state will also recover this part of the money. ”
"We can't accept this condition. Deng Zongbai said anxiously, "This is simply an unequal treaty, if I accept it, won't it be a loss of power and humiliation of the country?"
Feng Xiaochen said: "Why don't I see any inequality? If the quality of the things you make is up to the standard and submitted on time, no one will deduct a penny from you." If your quality is not up to par, and you provide defective products or even waste products, what reason does the customer have for giving you money? As for the investment in the introduction of equipment, it itself is used to help you form production capacity, but now that the equipment is invested, but you cannot complete the task, won't the state's money be wasted? What's wrong with recovering it from you?"
"I won't agree to this condition!" Deng Zongbai said angrily, he thought Feng Xiaochen was easy to talk about just now, but he didn't expect Feng Xiaochen to have such a ruthless trick, which was almost about to kill Xinyang Erhua.
Regarding the issue of introducing technology, Deng Zongbai really has no bottom in his heart. In the past, they have not introduced outside technology, some technology quickly became digested and absorbed, some technology has indigestion, and even some countries have spent a lot of foreign exchange to purchase equipment, and now they are still asleep in the workshop and do not play a role. But whether they succeed or not, they don't need to bear any responsibility, at best, they write a material brilliantly, blow up the results a little, attribute the failure to objective reasons, and the matter will pass. There is no such thing as recovering investment.
Everyone likes to introduce technology because the introduction of technology is beneficial to the factory. Even if the introduction fails, the factory does not need to pay a penny, who doesn't like such a thing? But according to Feng Xiaochen's plan, the factory has to pay the right pants.
"If that's the case, then we'll quit and stop working on this porcelain. Deng Zongbai said categorically.