Chapter 1137: Discussion
Luckily, it is not impossible for a movie to suddenly become popular because of a certain factor.
Bad luck, let alone release, it is very likely that because the plot of the movie violates the taboo, you can't even get the approval for the release, or it is possible.
However, "Liu Changqing" is obviously lucky.
Although "Liu Changqing" is now successful at the box office, there are still many things that need to be summarized, but Yang Ming has handed over these things to Liu Xinsheng to deal with, and he is still busy filming "Fast and Furious".
Before flying to the Lion City to return to the crew, Yang Ming met with Tao Lao.
"Why do you have time to ask me out for tea?"
In the teahouse, Tao Lao took a sip of tea and asked Yang Ming with a smile.
Before Yang Ming could answer, he raised his eyebrows and continued, "Is there something?"
- They're all old foxes!
Yang Ming secretly slandered in his heart, dealing with these old guys, it was obviously impossible to cover the other party, he took out a few documents he brought over, handed them to Tao Lao, and said straight to the point: "Recently, the staff of Maoyan Film found that the box office of some movies was seriously abnormal, this is their verified statistics, you see!"
"Oh, what's the situation?" Tao Lao looked questioning and glanced at Yang Ming.
"You take a look first!" Yang Ming didn't answer directly, shrugged his shoulders, and motioned for Tao Lao to read the document first.
Tao Lao took the document, then looked down, and after a while, his face was dissatisfied and angry, he looked up at Yang Ming, and asked solemnly: "Are you sure these data are reliable?"
"Hmm!" Yang Ming nodded, "In order to prevent mistakes, I arranged for someone to personally verify a few theaters, and it is indeed the truth!"
Hearing Yang Ming's affirmation, Tao Lao's eyes flashed with a hint of fierceness, snapped, threw the document on the table, and snorted coldly: "These crooked ways!"
Yang Ming noticed that although Tao Lao's expression was shocked, it was not strong, and he was obviously no stranger to such things as box office fraud.
The documents he handed over to Tao Lao were all the data he arranged for someone to deliberately stare at those movies with a strange ticket sales situation during this period of time, and then counted them.
This is necessary to ventilate with Tao Lao in advance.
Although Tao Lao is not a member of the official Radio and Television Administration, as the president of the Film Association and the chairman of the Golden Dragon Award jury, he has enough reasons to be the first to know about this matter.
lest the time comes, things will not be over.
"Tao Lao, what do you say?" Yang Ming picked up the teacup and took a leisurely sip of tea and asked gently. "Maoyan Movies is just an e-commerce platform, but there are no rights and obligations to prevent customers from buying movie tickets!"
And so it is.
As an e-commerce platform, Maoyan Movies only sells tickets online, and as for who buys it, it is impossible to monitor at all.
Even the theater chain can't stop this kind of box office fraud, for the theater chain, anyway, as long as the tickets are sold, they can get a share.
As for whether anyone comes to see it, it's not their concern.
Therefore, box office fraud has always been banned repeatedly in the film industry.
"It's difficult!" Tao Lao sighed silently.
As an old Jianghu, what ups and downs in the film industry has he not experienced?
He is naturally no stranger to box office fraud.
Although box office fraud is now carried out through e-commerce platforms, it is not much different from before.
Yang Ming didn't speak, sat on the side, drank tea silently, and waited for Tao Lao's reaction, he didn't know that this kind of thing was not new in the film industry at all, but too common.
Not to mention China, even abroad is not uncommon.
However, there are also some countries where the film market is doing well, and the box office fraud is very strict, but those systems are very rigid.
"Why did you kid suddenly remember to tell me about this, don't say you're kind. Tao Lao suddenly snorted and looked at Yang Ming with a strange gaze.
Hearing Tao Lao's words, Yang Ming almost didn't spit out a sip of tea, and said: "Dare to love me in your old eyes, the image is so unbearable!"
"I knew that you kid was unprofitable and couldn't afford to be early!" Tao Lao pointed at Yang Ming and laughed.
Yang Ming rolled his eyes angrily when he heard this, and then took out another document and handed it to Tao Lao: "You look at this again!"
This document is the long-term harm analysis he wrote about the box office fraud that will cause to the local film industry, and he was not going to take it out, but after thinking about it, he should show Tao Lao first, after all, the other party is not a person in the officialdom.
As the president of the Film Association, it is good to ventilate with Tao Lao first.
Tao Lao casually took the document again, and after a while, his face became extremely grim, and his hands trembled slightly.
"Is this really possible?"
After reading the document, he put the document on the table, took out a cigarette, lit it, took a few puffs, patted the document, and said slowly.
"What do you always think?" Yang Ming sighed slightly.
In fact, he has already seen the facts, these are all things that happened in the previous life, and he can be sure that if box office fraud is also rampant in this life, then all kinds of unbearable things in the film industry in the previous life will definitely be staged in this life.
"Alas!" Tao Lao exhaled a puff of cigarette and sighed heavily. "For many years, this kind of thing has been repeatedly banned!"
"Haven't you thought about formulating some perfect institutional restrictions?" Yang Ming frowned and suddenly asked.
The atmosphere of the film industry in today's world is not much better than in the previous life, but this is only in terms of technology, and those shady scenes will still exist, or even in other countries.
"Yes!" Tao Lao nodded.
When Yang Ming heard this, he couldn't help but look stunned, and asked curiously, "Then why didn't it continue?"
After all, he is too young, and he doesn't know much about some old things in the film industry, and it is estimated that only seniors like Tao Lao will know the inside story of various past events in the circle clearly.
"In the past, we advocated the use of heavy taxes to limit box office fraud and increase the cost of counterfeiting, but this method was useless at all, and it invisibly increased the production cost of the film, almost devastated the vitality of the local film industry, and then it was gone. Tao Lao said eloquently.
Yang Ming nodded when he heard this, heavy taxes are a double-edged sword, although they limit box office fraud, but they hurt the foundation of the film industry.
Even he himself does not want to use taxes as a means to limit box office fraud, which is very detrimental to Oriental DreamWorks.
For a while, in the private room of the teahouse, the atmosphere couldn't help but fall silent.
Yang Ming also frowned and thought about how to limit the situation of box office fraud, although today he asked Tao Lao to talk to the other party first, but if he can completely eliminate the phenomenon of box office fraud, it is also a good thing.
He struggled to remember what perfect system he had in his previous life.
In terms of box office fraud, it seems that several countries such as Hollywood, Japan, and France are doing well.
However, the Japanese and French approach did not suit China.
Japan's practice is to count votes by an independent organization, and the cost of counterfeiting is extremely high; once discovered, it will have to pay a huge fine, which is high enough to cause some enterprises to go bankrupt, not to mention publicly apologizing for their crimes; and banks not only refuse to lend to the enterprises involved, but also terminate their loans and business cooperation with their related upstream and downstream enterprises. Social penalties other than government penalties are also quite severe, and if a bad reputation is formed, it is difficult for counterfeiters to continue in their previous industry.
In France, the box office is calculated according to the number of moviegoers, not sales revenue, and the number of moviegoers can only reflect whether a film is popular among French audiences. In order to attract more people to the cinema, major cinema chains in France have launched a "monthly subscription system".
Neither of these two methods is very suitable for China, and Japan's practice can still be used for reference, but as for the French method, it is not suitable for China at all.
How many people are there in France?
If you really want to count the number of heads, the workload is estimated to scare the French staff to death.
Now it seems that only Hollywood can follow the practice, but even then, it will take a long time to maintain!
After Yang Ming recalled the practices of Hollywood in his previous life, he couldn't help but move in his heart, and asked Tao Lao: "It seems that the various associations in our domestic film industry are not very good, and they can't afford to protect the interests of their members!"
"Are you slapping my old face?" After hearing Yang Ming's words, Tao Lao pretended to have a cold face and said.
"Huh!" Yang Ming suddenly remembered that the other party seemed to be the honorary president of the Actors Association in addition to the president of the Film Association, and he suddenly felt extremely embarrassed, he coughed lightly, but still said: "The facts are the facts, the various associations in our domestic film and television industry are really bad compared with Hollywood!"
The influence of various trade unions in Hollywood, whether in the past or present, is not comparable to the various domestic associations.
In Hollywood, as long as the contract is signed by the union witness, even if the other party is strong, as long as there is a situation of salary arrears, then the union will stand up for the actor or director to uphold justice, even if the other party is a film giant, but as long as the contract is signed, then the union will resolutely get justice back for you.
even did not hesitate to mobilize all Hollywood artists to strike in support.
It's simply not possible in China.
Even though the various trade union systems in China today are quite perfect compared with those in previous generations, they are still far from Hollywood trade unions in terms of implementation.
Huaxia is a humane society.
"I've tried to uphold the authority of the Screen Actors Guild over the years, but it's still a lot worse than Hollywood. Tao Lao said quite disappointed.
Yang Ming opened his mouth to say something, but he didn't speak.
In fact, the real gap between the Chinese film industry, whether in the past life or the present life, is not in the so-called talent technology and capital, but in the gap in the system!
As for technology, not to mention the present world, even in the previous life, as long as you were willing to spend money, you could still shoot special effects shots comparable to Hollywood blockbusters.
Funding, that's not a problem at all!
To be honest, Yang Ming believes that what Hollywood is most worthy of learning from the domestic film industry is not what special effects shots, what star lineups, and what propaganda methods, but various perfect systems.
In the previous life, because of the institutional relationship, these ideas could only exist in fantasy.
But this world is different.
Thinking of this, Yang Ming suddenly felt a hot feeling in his heart, sorted out his thoughts, and said slowly: "Tao Lao, if we can really move the Hollywood system to China, not to mention anything else, box office fraud will definitely be restricted to the maximum, but how to localize the Hollywood system, you need to think of a way!"
Hearing Yang Ming's words, Tao Lao was taken aback at first, and then asked curiously: "How to restrict!"
"In Hollywood, the box office has always been an important yardstick to measure the profitability of a film. Yang Ming coughed lightly and said slowly, "A perfect mechanism is an important means to prevent box office fraud, in addition to paying fixed salaries to the director, screenwriter and actors, the film company often stipulates in detail in the contract their share of the net profit of the box office." And this almost fixed profit-sharing model is the result of years of competition between many industry guilds such as the Screen Actors Guild and the Screenwriters Guild and film companies. ”
He combined the knowledge of the past life with the reality of the present life, and then told Tao Lao.
"Box office fraud is not good for the filmmaker, the more false numbers, it means the more money to be distributed to the cast and crew, in addition, the credit system of the United States society also brings high costs to the counterfeiters, and the perfect social credit system of the United States brings the consequences of "one place of fraud, everywhere restricted" to the counterfeiters, if possible, our film industry should set up a department with an official background to review the box office of the film, once the fraud is found, it can be heavily fined!"
In the end, Yang Ming remembered some practices in Japan in his previous life, so he put it at the end and said it.
"Benefit-sharing, hefty fines, counterfeiting costs. After listening to Yang Ming's suggestion, Tao Lao muttered in a low voice, and then seriously considered the feasibility of Yang Ming's idea.
According to Yang Ming's suggestion, then the major trade unions in the domestic film and television industry must develop and assume the obligation to maintain members, so as not to have a situation of salary arrears at that time, but the trade unions have all kinds of inaction because of human relations!
After Yang Ming finished speaking, he was also pondering, and the more he thought about it, he really felt that the Hollywood trade union system might be moved to the local film and television industry.
After all, the laws of China in this world are quite strict and ruthless, and the concept of 'punishing the strong and helping the weak' has always been the concept adhered to by the laws of China in this world.
The two chatted for a long time, and three hours later, when Yang Ming said goodbye to Tao Lao, Tao Lao pointed at Yang Ming and scolded with a smile: "I can be regarded as trapping you kid, is your kid interested, president of the Directors Guild?"
Hearing Tao Lao's words, Yang Ming was taken aback, and hurriedly waved his hand to refuse: "Old man, don't harm me, the seniors who are more qualified than me to be the president of the Directors Association, but I have a lot of grabbing, and I suggest that a special legal department should be established within each association, formulate a rigorous contract model, and also seek justice for the members!"
Maybe his fame is enough, but his qualifications in the film and television industry are too shallow, if he really wants to be this president, then he is really standing on the cusp.
Tao Lao just said casually, scaring Yang Ming, venting his evil anger, meeting today, so that he would not want to be idle in the future, and when he saw Yang Ming refused, he smiled and didn't say anything.
However, just when the two were separated, Tao Lao pulled Yang Ming and whispered: "Are you holding back the bad movie in time?"