Wang Xiaoshuai is a director who likes to shoot guns, and has bombarded the star system and censorship, and this time the target of his bombardment is Zhang Ran, who is a relatively successful director in business: "It's been 18 years, and countless people have persuaded me to make commercial films, but I think I should insist that if I can live a long life, I can carry it a little longer, and if I live a short life, I will carry it to a certain point, I firmly believe that movies should have a little cultural significance." I can't wander around, and in a flash, I will become a director like Lu Chuan and them. ”

As soon as these words came out, Zhang Ran's faces became even more ugly, what does it mean to become a director like Lu Chuan and them in a flash?

Although Zhang Guoli has been a director for a short time, he has also made commercial works, so he is also a little dissatisfied with Wang Xiaoshuai's words: "You can't use such an attitude just because your box office is not good now, or you think that you are not as profitable as the three directors on stage!"

Wang Xiaoshuai ignored Zhang Guoli, glanced at Lu Chuan next to him, and said in a mocking tone: "Lu Chuan, are you making money, are you happy? You are under a lot of pressure, and the next time your movie will not exceed 100 million, you will fail! We are right to do our best at the box office and the market, but whether we should take on a little national happiness and sense of mission, or whether we want to give people happiness, I think this is one of my big ultimate ideals." ”

Lu Chuan, who was sitting at the scene, saw Wang Xiaoshuai pointing to his name and scolding, and finally couldn't sit still, and shot back on the spot: "I think it is very outdated thinking to artificially separate commercial films and art films, every director has his own artistic dreams, but art films are not high, how did we fail to break 100 million at the box office? Now Chinese films are becoming more and more diverse, there are art films in overseas film festivals to fight for honor for Chinese films, and there are also directors like Zhang Ran who have sprung up in the Chinese film market, the reason why Zhang Ran has so many followers is because there is no need to go to the single-plank bridge with thousands of troops, and there is no need to go to the film festival, this is the future of Chinese films!"

Zhang Ran was quite surprised to hear Lu Chuan praise himself, but immediately reacted, this is pulling himself into the water, and he wants to pull himself to criticize Wang Xiaoshuai together.

At this moment, the host Zhang Guoli turned his head to look at Zhang Ran and said: "Director Zhang, can you have a few words? Today's forum is for ideological competition, and I, the host, are basically provoking trouble, so let's talk about it!"

Zhang Ran laughed and said, "It's uncomfortable for you to see us fighting, I suggest that you can host a boxing match in the future." Everyone in the audience burst into laughter, and Zhang Guoli also laughed. Zhang Ran coughed, suddenly became solemn, and said calmly: "Let me say a few words, Director Wang graduated from Nortel's directing department, and should know that movies have three attributes, first, movies are technology, second, movies are commodities, and third, movies are art." That is to say, film has three attributes at the same time: technology, business and art, and film is not only an art film, but also a commodity, because film shooting requires a lot of investment, production needs investment, distribution needs investment, publicity needs investment, and screening needs investment. You are a painter, you have paper and pen, you can paint at home, and you can tear it up at any time if you are not satisfied, and the film must ensure that the entire industry is recycled, only in this way can the entire industry be long-term. You think we are a failure because the three of us have a box office of more than 100 million, which cuts off the commodity attributes of the film and opposes business and art, which is very ridiculous. As I was talking about just now, many Chinese filmmakers have fallen into self-congratulatory mode, and Director Wang's words just prove this, that is, they feel that they are awesome, and everyone else is stupid. One of the problems of Chinese films is that there are too many people who are self-respecting and too few people who respect the audience!"

Whether it is the audience, media reporters, or theater managers, everyone is nodding, just like Zhang Ran said, he just said that Chinese filmmakers like to laugh at themselves, and Wang Xiaoshuai is a good proof of this.

Wang Xiaoshuai frowned, Zhang Ran said this very politely, and directly said that his movie was self-exciting, a little annoyed in his heart, and said coldly: "Actually, I admire director Zhang Ran, art and business are well combined, and I have no intention of offending, but today is a forum and a collision of ideas, so I want to discuss it with you." You're all saying that business and art should coexist, but now the problem is that art films can't survive anymore. The severity of the reality, the small number of films, and the edge of the second schedule are beyond our imagination. Films should stick to the basic cultural bottom line, films should carry cultural missions, in the case of such a difficult survival of art films, it is unfair to put art films on the market, throwing cultural undertakings into the market will definitely be distorted, literary films cannot and should not be tested by the market, it needs to be protected. This may be the best era for commercial films, but it is the worst era for literary films. So I think I must carry it at the expense of my energy and life, I don't earn as much money as you now, I carry it, people have a breath, people have dignity. ”

Zhang Ran had heard too many people say similar views, and felt that this was particularly fake, so he shook his head with a smile: "I think Director Wang thinks too highly of art films and too shallow of commercial films." To give a simple example, are Hallyu films art films? No, commercial films. But they broke into the Chinese market, occupied our market, and spread Korean culture in our market. Are Hollywood films art films? No, commercial films, but they spread American values around the world. In terms of disseminating culture, commercial films are not known to be higher than art films. What is the most influential movie of Chinese films overseas? Art films? No, kung fu films!

I have confidence in art films, but I don't think that art films will die when they are put on the market, I discussed the issue of Japanese art theaters with Japan's director Yoji Yamada, and Mr. Yamada told me that Japanese films have never set up a special art theater, in fact, Japan has discussed this issue, but many people think that we should let go and let all films play together, even when Japanese films suffered an unprecedented attack from Hollywood twenty or thirty years ago, there were no protection measures. Is Japanese art cinema dead? No, this year's "The Undertaker" also won the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film.

Art films are indeed relatively weak, but art films have an audience, and now no one watches domestic art films, I think the market does not carry this pot, the audience does not carry this pot, and the real problem appears in our directors. Who said that the box office of art films must be dismal? Ozu's films are art films, but are they poor at the box office? Many of Ozu's films are among the top 10 at the annual box office in Japan. "2001: A Space Odyssey" cost 10 million, and the U.S. box office is 56 million. Now Woody Allen, the Coen brothers, and even Ang Lee are also doing well at the box office. There are many great art film directors who have done well at the box office, and their films are well liked by the audience.

The current domestic art film audience does not like to watch, directors should examine themselves, why other people's art films are made by the audience, and they are welcomed by the audience, but our films are not popular! In fact, the reason is very simple, the audience votes with their feet, and the audience thinks that the movie is not good, and this is the most fundamental reason!

Wang Xiaoshuai was speechless, bit his lip, and retorted: "I think it's unfair for you to say this, the monopoly of commercial films makes it impossible for art films to enter the market at all, and on the other hand, the market lacks protection for domestic films." The cinema is a magical part of the story, and the manager will only put on the shelves what he thinks is packaged. We art films don't want to hide in the corner, but they can't go out into the public's field of vision at all, and 90% of the pomp and circumstance of my film "Left and Right" are useless scenes, and in the middle of the night or in the morning, who will get up at half past six in the morning and go to the theater to watch a movie? Art films have an audience, but the audience can't see them because of the number of shows. In France, a film cannot be filled with more than one-third of the number of seats in any one cinema, nor can it exceed one-third of the total number of screenings in that cinema. In addition, the French government, through the French National Centre for the Cinema Industry, provides an annual subsidy for art cinemas to finance the promotion of cinemas and the renovation of their facilities. This is a mandatory rule for the sake of protecting cultural diversity. Art films need government support to establish a special art cinema chain, so I have been calling on the government to build an art cinema line and support art films!"

Hearing this, Zhang Ranzhi frowned, this is China's art film director, many people are this virtue, sneered: "I support the construction of art cinemas, and also support art films, each of the cinemas built at the peak of our century has a special screen to show art films, and we are the highest support for art films among all theaters." But I firmly oppose the government to engage in art theaters, and I also oppose the government's support for art films, I think that cultural diversity cannot be protected, and the more it is protected, the more it will be destroyed. I even hope that the government will really open up the domestic market, let Hollywood in, and let us go with Hollywood, because in a short period of time we may be beaten into pigs' heads by Hollywood, but in five or ten years, we will definitely win! Now that South Korea and Japan are reversing Hollywood at home, there is no reason why we can't do it!

Many times, I think that the thinking of some filmmakers in China is particularly divided, and on the one hand, they shout, "The government is not allowed to take care of us, we want to be creative free"; on the other hand, they shout, "Why don't you care about us, we are art, and you have to pay for us!" I find it very difficult to understand, do you want the government to take care of it? If you really pursue freedom, you should show the backbone of pursuing freedom, and you would rather starve to death than be supported by the government! If you take the government's money and shout freedom there, don't you feel unconfident? Isn't it a joke that a group of people who are begging for support all day long talk about dignity?"

There are many problems in Chinese films now, and a very important point is that the government has managed too much, and the government has managed enough, but now they want to pull the government in and let the government manage more. That's tantamount to adding another chain to Chinese films, so. Zhang Ran's words were quite unkind.

Lu Chuan was directly happy when he heard it, Zhang Ran, the bastard, said it ruthlessly enough, and directly said that Wang Xiaoshuai was begging for support, and the anger just now because of Wang Xiaoshuai's finger and scolding suddenly dispersed, and he laughed and said: "Xiaoshuai, I didn't expect you to ask for support!"

The audience and the theater manager usually didn't think that there was anything wrong with Wang Xiaoshuai and their request for the government to build an art theater, but now when they heard Zhang Ran say this, they all felt that they were a little split personality.

The reporters were very excited, Zhang Ran had a lot of verbal battles on the Internet before, but he didn't expect that the verbal battles in reality would be so powerful, and Wang Xiaoshuai was so miserable!

Zhang Guoli filmed with Zhang Ran for more than half a month in the crew of "The Great Cause of the Founding of the People's Republic of China", and knew that Zhang Ran was powerful, but now that this battle is fought, he found that it was even more powerful than he imagined, and couldn't help asking: "Director Zhang, what do you think the art theater should do?"

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