542 The advantage of the Nine Courtyards is not so easy to take advantage of
After the two sides reached an agreement, the contract was signed until the relevant personnel of the Iranian side went to China, and it was still the responsibility of the Kanon, mainly because the Iranians were not satisfied with the performance of the Jian-8, so there were many technical details that needed to be further discussed.
If the J-8 belongs to the third generation fighter, then the Iranians will definitely ignore everything and take it with a wave of their hand.
In other words, if the foundation of China's military industry is better, and the level of equipment in China is higher, this problem will not exist.
Liu Yijiu didn't care much about the attitude of the Iranians.
For him, as long as he can get F14, everything is worth it, and nothing else matters.
The avionics system of the F14, the overall aerodynamic layout of the F14, and the structural strength of the F14 are really meaningful for the entire Chinese aviation industry. Even the United States, the F15 and F16, which have been used for decades, cannot be compared with the F14 in the eyes of military officials.
It's just that the backers behind the F14 design company are not tough enough. Eventually, it will be replaced by a fighter with inferior performance.
It was the world's first fighter capable of making a Cobra maneuver. Long range, large bomb load, high speed. In the eyes of many people, an absolutely perfect fighter, the status simply cannot be replaced.
Now, if you want to get this kind of fighter, the performance of China's J-8II will be improved a lot.
It was a very big challenge for the Chinese technical team.
Liu Yijiu did not participate in the discussion of technical details, and he handed over the work to the designers of the 601 Institute and the 611 Institute.
This incident caused dissatisfaction among the leadership of the 132 factory. As the director of Factory 132, Han Feihong personally found Liu Yijiu. Liu Yijiu was asked to hand over such a task to Factory 132, which had a deep relationship with 611.
"Director Liu, Factory 132 itself is a supporting industry of 611. Although our factory does not belong to the system of the Ninth Academy, but now the 611 Institute has been allocated to the Ninth Academy, if any new fighter jets are designed, the technology or everything is transferred to Shenfei or other aircraft production units, can our 132 factory still survive? Han Feihong said very politely.
611 does not belong to 132 factories, and 132 factories do not belong to 611 factories, but. These two units, one responsible for design and the other responsible for manufacturing, have always been complementary to each other. This is the layout of the whole country in terms of the aviation industry.
There are many places where there are aircraft design and research institutes, and at the same time, there are aircraft manufacturing units where these aircraft design and research institutes are located.
They are not subordinate to each other, but they are interdependent.
When the 132 plant did not produce the J-10, it was no different from other aviation manufacturing units.
611 and 132 factories are a whole. It's just that it hasn't reached the level of the afterlife.
Therefore, Liu Yijiu gave Shen Fei a huge amount of funds, but he did not have the points of 132 factories, in this era of scarce funds. No one would be happy.
Each unit often goes to the center to run the project, and it is difficult to achieve it in the end.
The central government has no money!
Now they're all staring at the Ninth Courtyard!
"Director Han, the performance of J-7 and J-8. I think you should be very clear. If you improve the Jian-7 to the standard of being able to adapt to international exports, there will naturally be no problem......" Liu Yijiu said very realistically.
The seventh master has been improved and designed many times. Even at the beginning of the 21st century, there were examples of design improvements.
Moreover, Iran seems to have really purchased a batch of Jian-7 in the later period. And not J-8.
"Director Liu, without the 611 Institute, the models we can produce are limited......," Han Feihong emphasized.
"Isn't there a technical team in the 132 factory itself?" The corners of Liu Yijiu's mouth twitched, these guys are all looking for money for themselves.
It seems that without the 611 Institute, the 132 factory will not have any development, and even the work will not be able to go on at a pace.
"No money......
"......" Facing the surprisingly direct little old man in his fifties in front of him, Liu Yijiuyi didn't know what to answer for a while.
The Ninth Academy is not the superior department of the 132 factory, and no matter how the 132 factory is, the Ninth Academy should not be responsible.
"On the Iranian side, we will recommend the J-7, a fighter with the characteristics of a fighter and a bomber, but we can't guarantee the result. Director Han, I hope you can understand that although we are both in the national military industrial system, we are not of the same nature. You are eating the imperial grain, and we are self-financing pilot units. Every penny of our money must be used wisely. If you want to be like you, there are not many production plans, but there are still a lot of funds for repairing cadre dormitories, just like one is raised by his own mother and the other is raised by his stepmother......" Liu Yijiu saw the other party directly, so he simply didn't turn Capricorn.
The cheapness of the Ninth Courtyard and the cheapness of oneself are not so easy to take advantage of.
In this era, many state-owned factories began to build dormitories for cadres and workers on a large scale, and seniority began to divide houses.
Most of this money was diverted from other project funds.
What kind of profits, how much profit can a state-owned factory make under the planned economic system? How much profit can be retained?
Liu Yijiu knows how the people below can set up a name to ask for money from above, how they emphasize the difficulty of production, and how they can do the things they are accustomed to for the benefit of their small personal group.
Anyway, it's the state's money, and it has nothing to do with him.
Scientific research in China, so to speak, has been problematic since the eighties. That is, the scientific research funds are misappropriated very much, and the cost of scientific research is not calculated, everything is for the preferences of the leaders and the achievements of the leaders......
Liu Yijiu didn't want to see such a situation, so he needed the Ninth Academy to set up the project independently, and at the same time, it also set the Ninth Academy apart from other scientific research institutes.
Now, Plant 132 has appeared, and more units will appear in the future.
If you don't block it at the beginning, in the end. There will be more units looking for the Ninth Hospital.
The Ninth Academy can only find other units to cooperate, not other units to ask for money from the Ninth Academy. There is a fundamental difference.
"Director Liu. Or, in the contract with the Iranians. How many J-7s are in it? Han Feihong didn't expect Liu Yijiu to speak so directly, without saving face at all.
For the sake of the 132 factory, for the sake of themselves, such an opportunity cannot be lost.
"The negotiations between us and the Iranians are almost over, if we join the J-7 in exchange, then who will bear the cost of production and the research costs needed to achieve the performance required by the other party?" Liu Yijiu was noncommittal.
The Seventh Master itself was to be exported to Iran, but it was in the late stage of the Iran-Iraq War. The number of fighters that the Iranian Air Force can take off is not very large, only able to take off 30 or 40 sorties a day, while Iraq has only purchased the Jian-7 from China when it has maintained more than 160 sorties, and the number is not too much.
At that time, it was already the J-7B, an ordinary J-7, and the Iranians probably preferred not to and would not agree.
It's like J-8.
"Director Liu, can you ...... this funding issue" Han Feihong asked Liu Yijiu cautiously. Factory 132 has no money......"
"Hehe, you don't have money for research and development, you don't have money to produce unplanned fighters, but you have money to build dormitory buildings. Director Han. Do you think it's appropriate? In our unit, technicians and cadres live in tube buildings, and ordinary workers even live in thatched houses......" Liu Yijiu said coldly.
Han Feihong was speechless for a moment.
"Or. You pay your own money to meet the other party's demands, and we help you sell to Iran and even other customers. If needed, we advance funds. I'm sorry, but you can't spend it like this if you have money in the Ninth Academy! The Nine Courtyards are not like you. With the backing of the state, we are responsible for our own profits and losses, and once we lose money, more than 30,000 people in the entire unit will have to go hungry! Liu Yijiu said very seriously.
Seeing Han Feihong leave in a huff, he didn't feel much smug in his heart.
He couldn't understand the situation of Factory 132.
The Thunder Dragon, J-10, J-20 and even the seventh-generation aerospace fighter J-50 were all made from the 611 Institute and the 132 Factory.
The current 132 factory, with limited funds, doesn't seem to be a serious matter at all.
"Director Liu, are you looking for me?" Huang Qiaosong didn't expect that Liu Yijiu would look for him at this time.
"Factory 132, where did you get the news?" Liu Yijiu stared at Huang Qiaosong seriously and asked very seriously. "Rules of secrecy, I'm sure you're more familiar with than I remember. In the past, Factory 132 and Factory 611 were one, but now they are different. Factory 132 belongs to the Ministry of Aviation Industry, and we are the Ninth Academy! ”
"Director Liu, I'm ......" Huang Qiaosong didn't know how to answer Liu Yijiu's words for a while.
It was he who told Han Feihong the news, because he didn't want Factory 132 to miss such an opportunity.
"This time, I can assume that I don't know, but if there is a next time, you don't want to keep it in our system. Factory 132 belongs to the cooperative factory with us, and our 611 institute supports their technical problems; All of our theoretical designs need to be produced through them. You should be clear about this. As for the matter of collaboration, it belongs to the Ninth Academy, and now it is no longer the authority that 611 has. 611 institutes, only the right to suggest, not the right to decide! Liu Yijiu said coldly.
"Director Liu, I understand. It's my fault, I review. I'm not for the individual, but for the military-industrial complex of our country as a whole. The J-7 Fighter Factory 132 has been improving the design, and now it is about to achieve results, if this opportunity is lost, maybe there will be no chance in the future......"
"That's their business. The J-7 itself is an imitation of the MiG-21, and this aircraft has long been behind. How far can it be improved? No matter how it is changed, it is a light second-generation fighter, and it is difficult to reach the third generation, and the too advanced avionics system cannot be installed, and the structure of the engine with strong thrust may not be able to withstand it...... "Liu Yijiu does not look down on the seventh master, but the seventh master is congenitally insufficient, and no matter how he changes, it is impossible to make much progress."
Pakistan once purchased J-7 in large quantities, not because they didn't know the performance of J-7, but when Factory 132 was about to go bankrupt, their funds saved J-7, so there was a Thunder Dragon behind it, and only then did China's J-10 and J-20 appear......
Factory 132 paid for it itself, and he wouldn't say anything, and would take the initiative to find them to help find orders just like he did to Shen Fei.
And now it's clearly not the case.
After some bigwigs from Pakistan came to China with Iranian official technicians, as well as some officials from the equipment department. The agreement on the replacement of the J-8II for the F14 was officially launched.
Discussion of various technical details, as well as the positioning of fighter performance. The Iranians don't know too well, but Pakistan doesn't stand by.
There is no other reason. Pakistan has also launched a program to purchase China's backward fighter jets.
What people don't expect is what kind of agreement has been reached between Pakistan and Iran, and these two countries, which are not supposed to have too much friendship in themselves, will actually advance and retreat together in this regard.
Could it be that Khomeini and Hari. Ark has a relationship that is beyond the norm that the world doesn't know?
Liu Yijiu was frightened by his own thoughts.
In the end, the Iranians did not directly place an order for large-scale procurement of J-8 fighters, but at the suggestion of Pakistan, exchanged the F14 for eight J-8IIs, and then purchased four more to form an aviation squadron. Meantime. A purchase order for twelve J-7s was placed, and they needed to be evaluated on the battlefield before they could take further action.
For such a result, Liu Yijiu was not surprised.
The J-8 will be delivered in a year, and the J-7B will be able to intercept the fighters that should be provided to the Air Force from Factory 132, which makes Liu Yijiu unable to control it. Liu Yijiu did not know the specific content of the negotiations, after all, it was a direct negotiation between Pakistan and the bigwigs between the 132 factory and the Ministry of Aviation Industry.
"Director Liu, this matter is too unauthentic for the Ministry of Aviation Industry! Obviously, we were talking to each other. Until now, it has suddenly become like this...... "Huang Qiaosong didn't expect that things would be such a result.
He felt like he had been sold by Factory 132.
132 factory This is the act of prying the corners of the wall.
"That's what I put the logistics department running." Liu Yijiu directly said that he did it on purpose.
He didn't explain hygiene to Huang Qiaosong, but he had to explain to the bigwigs of the Ninth Hospital's base management committee: "The Ninth Hospital's current involvement in a wide range of fields is a bit too wide. We don't dare to announce many achievements, because once they are announced, the poor military, which is almost out of the best clothes, will definitely continue to expand our scale. They know why we're growing so fast. I also know why other units are developing so slowly. In the short term, for our nine hospitals. It's something that has huge benefits, think about it. What about decades later? If we go deep into every area of China's military industry, our influence goes beyond the relevant competent leadership departments......"
"So, from the very beginning, we had to avoid getting to that point!"
Liu Yijiu took the initiative to find an opponent for himself, and took the initiative to give up some less important profits of the Ninth Academy! (To be continued......)
PS: I'm really sorry everyone, I was in the hospital yesterday, and I haven't been home until now, and this chapter was written yesterday.
The day before yesterday, the apprentice child was full moon, and the gourd drank a little dizzy, and told the brothers that after the code word was finished, he went to sleep, and in less than two hours, the gourd sister-in-law called the gourd up, because the little second gourd was coming out......
Immediately scared the gourd to pee, Nima, this bear child, there is still a month before the due date, so he hurried to the hospital, and then, at 6:19 yesterday morning, the bear child came out of his mother's belly......
Premature birth!
Maybe it's because of this book, so Xiao Erhulu came out at this time. Anyway, Hulu thinks so, I went out to buy something yesterday morning, and I saw a house number, which is also 619, Hulu wishfully thinks that Xiao Erhulu should have something to do with 619, and is ready to use this as a nickname, what do you think, brothers?
In the past few days, because the small second gourd arrived in advance, there is no preparation at all, so the number of updates will definitely be less. are all gourds in the hospital waiting for the gourd sister-in-law and the little second gourd mother and son. I hope you can understand, fortunately, Xiao Erhulu's condition stabilized yesterday afternoon, otherwise this book is likely to be interrupted for a long time.
In addition, the hospital is full of sons during this time, who has a similar daughter, book one, otherwise Xiao Erhulu will not be able to find a wife in the future! Yes, please contact the gourd and kowtow to thank you......