Chapter 087: Interviewed
The government, the mayor's office, Hu Yuze quickly talked about it from the outside, and he was "sarcastic;!" "Mayor?"
Xiao Zhen's voice came from the room.
Hu Yuze pushed the door in, and saw that Xiao Case was looking up something on the Internet, with a notepad in his hand and a pen in his right hand, as if he was copying something.
"Tell me, what's the matter?" Xiao Zhen casually raised his hand and asked.
"Oh, that's right, the provincial TV station came to an interview team, for the city's recent reform of the state-owned enterprise system, Director Xu of the Information Center of the Propaganda Department called to ask if the mayor has time to be interviewed, if there is time. When can it be arranged, and in addition, the interview team hopes to go deep into several pilot enterprises to conduct on-the-spot interviews. Director Xu would like to ask if you can be released. Hu Yuze said very quickly.
The responsibilities of the Municipal Information Center are responsible for organizing and planning major reports around the central work of the Municipal Party Committee and Municipal Government; Responsible for strengthening contact with the central and provincial mainstream media, and actively providing news clues; Responsible for news management, coordination, handling and service of sudden incidents; Responsible for the reception of reporters who are often interviewed by superior media. So this matter is obviously Xu Fei's responsibility.
"Oh?" Xiao Shang stopped his pen and raised his head. He groaned slightly: "Then let's interview in the city hall canteen at noon today." As for on-the-spot interviews, Langliu's reform of the state-owned enterprise system welcomes all regular media to conduct interviews. "Of course, there is still a basic premise here, that is, it cannot affect the normal production operations of enterprises. ”
"Okay, chief, I know that Hu Yuze is about to leave, and suddenly asked again: "Well, mayor, Director Xu also asked about the reception of these provincial and Taiwan reporters."
"Treat it as usual...... Xiao Zhen waved his hand and said, "Don't put it up." Don't stutter
"Yes, Mayor, I see, then I'll go first. In addition, Lao Han is already downstairs. You will go to the Municipal Information Office for inspection in 15 minutes. I have already informed the comrades of the Information Office for you. ”
Xiao Ke nodded: "Well, okay, you poison me first, I still have a few words, and I will bow down after the instructions."
Hu Yuze nodded, bent down slightly and retreated.
In the morning, Xiao Ke, deputy secretary of the Municipal Party Committee and mayor, and his party came to the Municipal Information Office to conduct research on how to speed up the construction of Langliu News Network and discussed with the members of the Municipal Information Office.
Shu Lanxin, director of the Municipal Information Office, and Wang Guohua, secretary of the Municipal Information Office, introduced the construction of the government portal website and the Langliu news website to Xiao Zhen and his party. In recent years, the website infrastructure has been continuously improved, the hardware facilities have been greatly improved, due to the large scale of the website, the amount of information, the powerful function, its influence continues to expand, the number of visits has risen rapidly, and it has become an important platform for publicizing the image of Langliu, distributing government information, carrying out government-people interaction and realizing online services, and has become an important public opinion position in our city.
Xiao Bin spoke highly of the website's exhibitions in recent years. He pointed out that there is a lot to be done in the construction of the Langliu News Network, and it is necessary to distinguish the functions of the website and increase the amount of news and information uploaded and updated. Closely around the Municipal Party Committee and Municipal Government Center, strengthen positive publicity and lead the bow, making it the first channel for the outside world to understand Langliu. It is necessary to strengthen the monitoring of online public opinion. We should increase the strength of news gathering and editing, do a good job in training reporters and correspondents, strictly implement the three-review system for news, and vigorously strengthen news propaganda. At the same time, it is necessary to introduce and train qualified personnel and strengthen the operation and management of the website.
Subsequently, Mayor Xiao Zhen and his entourage held an on-site work meeting at the Municipal Information Office to discuss the relevant work related to the further strengthening of information construction in our city.
After the meeting, Mayor Xiao Zhen politely declined the reception of the Municipal Information Office and drove back to the municipal government. On the second floor of the municipal government canteen, he was interviewed by the Xiaonan Provincial TV Station "Century Xiaonan State-owned Whole Industry System Reform Special Interview Group".
The question was asked by a female journalist in her thirties. The ship remained short, very energetic but rational, and asked: "Mayor Xiao, thank you for accepting our interview in your busy schedule, first I would like to ask Mayor Xiao, what do you think of the ongoing reform of the state-owned enterprise system by Langliu with "two replacements" as the main means?
Xiao Zhen smiled very affectionately and said: "First of all, the reform of the state-owned enterprise system with two replacements as the main means is a new round of reform after continuing to change the previous reform model since the opening up of Lu. The theme of this reform is property rights, and our mainstream economists generally agree on a concept, that is, the deeper the reform, the more important the issue to be involved is property rights. Therefore, this reform is to use a knife at the source of the problem, and it is a reform that treats both the symptoms and the root cause. Although there is no precedent to prove it before, I and the Langliu Municipal Party Committee and Government firmly believe that under the wise leadership of the central and provincial party committees and under the correct guidance of the municipal party committee, the two replacement tasks of the reform of the state-owned enterprise system in Langliu City will certainly be able to successfully complete the "small."
It can be seen that Mayor Xiao is very confident in this reform. Well, we know that the reform of China's state-owned enterprises has roughly gone through several stages, such as expanding power and profit, contracting operation, system innovation and mechanism transformation, and reform of the state-owned asset management system. Nearly two years. The controversy over the reform of state-owned enterprise property rights has become increasingly intense, including the confrontation between some experts and scholars over the loss of state-owned assets, the so-called "rethinking economists" and "mainstream economists." between the debates. What do you think of the issues they raised? The young female reporter smiled and asked a murderous question.
Xiao Zhen still had a smile on his face, but he was surprised in his heart, this interview should be a more mainstream interview, why did he ask such a sensitive question? This question is from the perspective of a scholar. To explain it from an academic point of view, it is natural to say anything, but his identity is very "ditched". As the mayor of a prefecture-level city. An administrative "handle." If you take a public stance in Muyi, it is tantamount to representing the opinions of the Langliu Municipal People's Government. Something is wrong.
"I know if Miss Reporter is asking an academic question or a question about how to use administrative means. But from my point of view, I can only answer your question from an academic point of view, I wonder if Miss Reporter is acceptable? Xiao Zhen smiled slightly, still graceful.
A look of surprise flashed in the young female reporter's eyes. But he quickly returned to normal, and said with a smile: "Of course you can." ”
Xiao Ding smiled and said: "At present, in the controversy over the property rights reform of state-owned enterprises in China, although there are mainstream and non-mainstream, left-leaning and right-leaning. There are two major camps: non-property rights reformers and property rights reformers. The former group of people believes that the property rights of state-owned enterprises are clear and can be carried out very efficiently. It is even more efficient than private enterprises, and there should be no property rights reform. They believe that the property rights reform will lead to the embezzlement of state-owned assets by some people, and it has become a carnival movement for these people in the feast of the loss of state-owned assets. The latter group believes that the property rights of state-owned enterprises are unclear, and we must unswervingly promote the reform of property rights; In the process of reform of state-owned enterprises. There is no problem of loss of state-owned assets. ”
The female reporter nodded: "It's so small, so what do you think about this problem?" ”
Xiao Zhen said with a smile: "In fact, the so-called "property rights" is an important concept in contemporary Western theories, especially in the theory of new institutional economics, and property rights reform is an important part of market economy reform. In the past few decades, China's academic circles have drawn on Western property rights theories and analytical methods to study China's practical problems, especially the reform of China's state-owned enterprises, and put forward many theoretical suggestions and policy propositions on the reform of China's state-owned enterprises. Some economists believe that the reform of property rights is a prerequisite for the reform of state-owned enterprises and for state-owned enterprises to extricate themselves from difficulties. At the same time, they also believe that it is necessary to privatize state-owned enterprises in order to fundamentally solve the problems existing in state-owned enterprises. Private property rights can form an effective interest incentive mechanism and operator selection mechanism, thus forming a corporate governance structure that is superior to that of state-owned enterprises. There are even those who believe that the only way forward for SOE reform is privatization. Other scholars who support the reform of SOEs believe that the reason for the inefficiency of SOEs is the lack of clarity in property rights. In order to make state-owned enterprises viable, it is necessary to carry out a thorough reform of property rights. They generally believe that the key to the reform of China's state-owned enterprises lies in the innovation of the state-owned property rights system, so that the traditional state-owned enterprises can achieve clear property rights, clear rights and responsibilities, separation of government administration from enterprises, and management, and improve the system of decision-making, execution, and supervision, so that they can become independent legal entities and market entities that operate independently and assume responsibility for their own profits and losses. In the past, the reform of state-owned enterprises has always revolved around the transformation of the operating mechanism of enterprises, and the results have always been insignificant. Therefore, to establish an enterprise system, it is necessary to carry out innovation in the state-owned property rights system, and its basic objectives are: the property rights are clear, the property rights structure is reasonable, and the property rights flow freely, so that they can meet the requirements of the modern enterprise system. And. The practice of reform over the years has also proved that it is not feasible to talk about reform by bypassing property rights, and without the diversification of the property rights structure and the reform of the property rights system, all other reforms will be ineffective. Over the years, China's reform has revolved around property rights, but the degree is different, the understanding is different, and the policies are different. ”
"You mean, we've been working on property rights reform?" The female reporter was surprised.
"No, no, no, what I'm talking about is "around that is, scratching all the time outside, and today I really caught the key." Xiao Zhen explained.
The female reporter nodded: "You mean, now that we have finally grasped the key to Ran's topic, the reform of the state-owned enterprise system has reached the final moment?" ”
Xiao Ke groaned slightly. "It's hard to say at the last minute, but it's a very critical period. However, I must make it clear that the reform of property rights is not a simple, vague, and blind delegation of power, and decentralization will not bring China's state-owned enterprises back to life in a short period of time. When we carry out property rights reform, we must be clear about the true meaning of property rights reform. China's property rights reform must also be integrated with China's actual situation, and must not be copied and copied.
If the property rights reform only focuses on the redefinition of property rights and ignores the construction of other corresponding systems, then it will inevitably achieve half the result and will not be able to achieve the envisaged reform goals. In the current reform of the property rights of state-owned enterprises, we must pay special attention to avoiding this kind of problem, and we must not blindly pay attention to the definition of property rights; while clarifying property rights, we must think of how to protect state-owned enterprises and avoid the loss of state-owned assets. ”
"In other words, you think that the property rights of state-owned enterprises are indeed unclear and need to be clarified through reform, right, Mayor Xiao?" The female reporter asked. When Xiao Zhen heard this, he smiled slightly and shook his head: "No, contrary to what these economists mean, I think that in fact, the property rights of state-owned enterprises are clear, that is, owned by the state." But. It is not clear what kind of specific subject should be in this clear property right to reflect the state's ownership of the overall state-owned assets, and what kind of system should be in place to protect this clear property right, so that it can maintain and increase its value under the protection of the effective system. At the same time, the state has not been able to sort out the relationship between the ownership, management and management rights of state-owned assets, so the issue of agents has always been a fatal problem. I think that's where the current reform is focused. ”
"Oh, I see, you mean that. The property rights of state-owned enterprises themselves are clear, and what is not clear is the relationship between their ownership, management rights, and management rights, etc. Xia Bian, so to sort out the relationship between the people, Guan Zhu is on the agent Bu face. Is it Xiao Zhen smiled and nodded: "Yes, that's the case." The reform of property rights is necessary, but the reform of property rights cannot fundamentally solve all the problems existing in China's state-owned enterprises, and the reform of property rights is not a good cure for "all diseases." The privatization reform of state-owned enterprises should not be the direction of reform of large state-owned enterprises.
The government should aim to uphold fair and fair market rules, eliminate all kinds of monopolies, including administrative monopolies, and create a market environment of full competition. In this way, the reform of property rights will not distort the corporate governance structure and create a healthy external governance environment not only for state-owned enterprises but also for private enterprises. Personally, I believe that the reform of the property rights of state-owned enterprises in China at the present stage should be all-round and diversified. ”
The female reporter's face gradually became serious as the issues discussed by Xiao Zhen gradually deepened, and when she heard this, she couldn't help asking: "Then let's bring the topic back to Langliu, Mayor Xiao, as the mayor of the Langliu Municipal People's Government, what do you think is worth paying special attention to in the current reform of Langliu with two substitutions as the main means?" "That's a good question, and that's one of the main points I'm going to make today." Xiao Zhen's index finger on his right hand was slightly pointed, and he said: "First of all, we must ensure that the reform of state-owned enterprises cannot harm the interests of employees." ”
Xiao Zhen's face also became serious, and said: "Since the era, many state-owned enterprises have been restructured into private enterprises, and some places have completely sold out state-owned enterprises. In the process of restructuring, many enterprises have been reborn, but some state-owned enterprises have been polarized after the restructuring: the state-owned status of ordinary employees has not been broken, and they have not received compensation or very little compensation; The original factory leader has become the owner of millions of assets. Some people believe that this phenomenon is unfair and the interests of employees are infringed; Some people, however, believe that the reform of state-owned enterprises will require sacrificing the interests of a generation.
However, here, I must point out: harming the interests of workers will inevitably lead to public resentment. I have secretly been to some companies that have been restructured. People often complain to me that some restructuring has hurt workers, and many enterprises have asked workers to buy out their seniority and leave. Only three or four hundred yuan of compensation is paid according to the length of service of one year, and many workers have worked for the year. I can't get 10,000 yuan. Among the state-owned enterprises that have been restructured, the biggest loss of interests is the "4 phenol small personnel." During the period of planned economy, the profits of state-owned enterprises were handed over to the state. The workers take low capital and do not have much accumulation; During the period of market economy, they were "out" in the reform of state-owned enterprises. The economic and psychological gap from the economy to the market economy. Leads to a series of destabilizing events. These unstable events have repeatedly warned that the reform of state-owned enterprises must be people-oriented. Langliu's reform of the state-owned enterprise system and the reform of the two replacements must be successful. This must be followed through from beginning to end.
In order not to harm the interests of workers and workers, it is necessary to block the so-called "legality" in the reform of state-owned enterprises. Loopholes, many state-owned enterprise directors just take advantage of these so-called "legal, loopholes to damage the interests of employees." I'll give you an example. Examples". Xiao Zhen casually said a case, and then said: "This is a typical case that harms the interests of employees and achieves personal goals."
The female reporter nodded: "And then?" ”
"Then we must resolutely prevent the loss of state-owned assets." Xiao Ding said solemnly: "There are two typical views on the loss of state-owned assets in the restructuring: one is that the asset appraisal of state-owned enterprises is not true, and many appraisal agencies deliberately make small state-owned assets, evaluate the net assets as zero or negative, and then sell them cheaply or give them away for nothing. The other is that the loss of state-owned assets should be viewed dynamically rather than statically, and that the loss of state-owned assets is the largest loss of state-owned assets if the currency market is sluggish and state-owned enterprises are struggling at that time. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong between the two viewpoints, there is one thing in common: the problem of the loss of state-owned assets needs to be further resolved.
But at the same time, I think there are still some things that can be done to prevent the loss of state assets. For example, the state-owned assets supervision system should be strictly formulated to make property rights transactions open and transparent. The restructuring of state-owned enterprises should be operated in strict accordance with the procedures, and the law enforcement department must conduct a qualification and credit review of the asset appraisal agency, and eliminate the non-compliant appraisal agency; State-owned assets regulators must strictly control asset appraisal and asset verification and capital verification; All reform and restructuring plans must be approved by the workers' congress, and the employee representatives must be elected by the employees to fully represent the wishes of the employees; When the state-owned assets supervision department examines and approves the restructuring plan, it must repeatedly solicit the opinions of employees. ”
"So Mayor Xiao, what do you think of the restructuring measures of several specific pilot enterprises for profit reform this time?
When Xiao Ke came out of the cafeteria, Xu Fei walked beside him with a serious expression, and suddenly whispered: "How is it, does it feel like being hollowed out?" ”
Xiao Zhen laughed in his heart, this Nizi is very good at acting. also had a serious expression, but lowered his voice and said, "How can she have the ability to hollow me out?" ”
"Oh?" Xu Fei was slightly curious: "Such a sensitive question, she broke the sand pot and asked in the end, you don't feel hollowed out?" ”
Xiao Zhen said sternly: "I only feel that way when I have you." ”
Xu Fei was stunned for a second, and then his eyes turned red, but Xiao Zhen's voice came from his ears: "Since you mentioned it, then tonight." I would like to experience this feeling again
Xu Fei felt a crisp in her heart, remembering the feeling of Xiao Zhen when she was intimate with her, and unconsciously put the two slender ** tighter.
Mom, the serious place has finally been written, and Xiao Zhen is going to prepare for a storm. Yi Xunshu is a fine concave and said that Xunshan is a different body clam