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Squinting his small eyes and looking at Liu Ting, Sun Zhengyi sighed and shook his head: "I didn't expect that the two IT companies of Taobao and Alipay, which are famous in China, are actually your industry of BAVC, it seems that our SoftBank's business investigation is not in place, with the financial resources of BAVC, of course these two companies have no financial problems, I sent someone to the mainland to find Miss Liu to negotiate commercial venture capital, which really makes BAVC you laugh." ”

Speaking of this, Sun Zhengyi laughed a few times, and did not seem to show shame and frustration, but was very free. Looking at his attitude, Zhou Liwen couldn't help but praise in his heart, this is the demeanor of an entrepreneur.

Zhou Liwen has been very low-key before, not to mention that Taobao and Alipay have been hiding behind the scenes from the beginning, and the equity is cross-controlled by several companies, so it is not surprising that outsiders do not know that these two IT companies are also Zhou Liwen's industry. Son laughed a few times to himself, and couldn't help but ask about the entrepreneurial situation and business ideas of these two companies, not that Son was still thinking about them, but mainly as an entrepreneur and investor, discussing this issue with another equal figure.

Zhou Liwen did not hide his thoughts, and talked about the original intention and ideas of establishing these two companies very happily, and also talked about the development scale and later planning of the two companies in the current position. When he heard that Zhou Liwen and Liu Ting went to the United States this time and planned to develop the business of these two companies overseas, Sun Zhengyi couldn't help but nod in agreement, and praised Zhou Liwen for his unique vision and decisiveness.

"The real Internet era has only been around for more than a decade, but its prospects are very amazing. I have always been very optimistic about the e-commerce industry, especially the two IT companies of BAVC, and compared with Taobao, Alipay's creativity is even more surprising, it has created a completely different online payment platform from Western countries, to have these two companies, BAVC, this is definitely not as simple as 1L, if I read it right, the energy they add up is far more powerful than imagined. ”

In the face of Son Zhengyi's evaluation, Zhou Liwen agreed with a smile: "You are right, in fact, from the initial establishment time, Alipay was born earlier than Taobao, and this Alipay was mainly started with a project platform in cooperation with Shanghai Bank, in order to promote or mobile phone sales on eBay." But with the development of online e-commerce, Alipay's payment method is becoming more and more accepted by people, and you know the current situation of eBay, so in order to ensure that I have my own online e-commerce channel, I later invested in Taobao. I didn't expect that it would take only two or three years to get to where I am now, which is also a surprise. ”

"Surprises always follow the footsteps of the successful." "Although Taobao is now only the second largest e-commerce company in China, it is only a matter of time before I surpass the acquired eBay," Son said. From the perspective of Taobao's business strategy, it already has a complete and perfect BE port 2 model, coupled with your Alipay as a guarantee mechanism, which is far easier to accept than any online e-commerce in the Chinese market by operators and consumers. To be honest, I asked people to go to China to do this venture capital, and that's what I liked, but unfortunately I don't have a chance now. ”

Seeing that Sun Zhengyi shook his head slightly, Zhou Liwen said very casually: "Actually, mom aut, your BB is also running well in China, from this point of view, it is already considered HL, if I guess correctly, do you plan to venture capital Taobao and Alipay Do you want to combine the three models of BBBE Kou 2 into one to form a comprehensive e-commerce network?" And then use Alipay's advantages in the payment platform to integrate these three? ”

A hint of surprise flashed in Son's eyes, and after a few seconds, he nodded frankly: "You judged right, I used to have this idea, and after a very detailed investigation, I found that your Taobao and Alipay are the most suitable platforms to join." Just like I just said that 1L is greater than 2, the sum of the three may create an unimaginable miracle, but unfortunately ....... ”

"Actually, there's nothing to be sorry for." Zhou Liwen waved his hand and said: "You know that I am not short of money, and judging from the current operation of Taobao and Alipay, it has already generated profits, and the invested funds are enough to cope with the development in the next few years." As for what the future holds, Momaut, I have the same confidence as you So, venture capital is meaningless to me, and as a businessman, I can't share my wealth with others for nothing. ”

"Of course, I can't be myself." Son said with a smile that he was notoriously stingy in Japan, and it was never the case that he wanted to take out the money in his pocket for nothing, and every investment was carefully planned and judged, which was one of the reasons why he was able to succeed.

However, as soon as he said this, the smile froze on his face, recalling that Zhou Liwen's words just now seemed to have another meaning, and he couldn't help but turn his inquiring eyes to Zhou Liwen.

As if he had known that Sun Zhengyi had such a reaction, Zhou Liwen smiled meaningfully.

"Maybe we can work together, and my judgment is the same as yours. If the three platforms of BBBE Port 2 can be integrated together, it will definitely create an unimaginable miracle. If we all have the same goal, why can't we join forces? Mom, what do you think of this suggestion?

"The suggestion is good, but how to integrate it? Did you agree to let me join both of your companies? bavc, you just said yourself that you weren't so generous, what? Change your attitude now? Son asked with a relaxed smile as he pretended not to know.

Secretly scolded the old fox, his words have been said so clearly, what is this guy pretending to be crazy to sell, insisting on telling the conditions himself? Don't look like this Son grew up in the United States, but after a long time in Japan, the character of this Japanese businessman is also a little bit stained, and he likes to play with himself. Okay, since you like to play, then Zhou Liwen is not polite, and come to face to face directly.

Picking up the teacup and taking a sip of water, Zhou Liwen said calmly: "I remember that in 1999, you invested $360,000 in Ahri, and in the end the other party only accepted $260,000 and obtained 3% of the spoon shares. I have to say that this investment is very beautiful, the Internet bubble burst in 26 years, and the stock market plummeted, but Ahri relied on this investment to get through the difficulties, and has made a lot of money from the market value later. Especially this year, the Internet has begun to pick up, and Ahri's most difficult period has passed, and the original $260,000 may be nearly 100 million if the current budget is followed? ”

"Almost, Ahri is not listed, and there may be a discrepancy in this amount." Son replied noncommittally.

Zhou Liwen smiled: "Even if there is a discrepancy, there is no problem, to be honest, whether it is 9.06 million or 100 million, what is the difference between me and you?" ”

"What do you mean?" Speaking of this, Son Masayoshi couldn't pretend to be confused anymore and asked with a solemn expression.

"It's very simple," Zhou Liwen said with a smile: "I will authorize the Japanese operation of OR to you, and you will find a way to help me get a 3% stake in Ahri, whether this equity is transferred to me from your original venture capital or another way, it makes no difference, and I can even pay 120 million US dollars in cash as a purchase." ”

"This is impossible," Masayoshi Son immediately refused: "Don't say 120 million, even if it is 130 million US dollars, I will not sell this 3% to you, this goes against the purpose and intention of my original investment, I invested in this venture capital is not just waiting for the market value to rise and sell equity." ”

"Of course" Zhou Liwen was not angry, on the contrary, he was as calm as just now, he continued: "I said earlier, I hope we can cooperate, so I don't expect to take your shares. Besides, as I said, no matter what method you use, as long as you achieve the goal. I heard that SoftBank is currently considering investing more than $860,000 in Ahri with Yahoo? And even a next, an investment worth hundreds of millions of dollars? Is this the case? If it works, I think SoftBank can take me as a replacement for Yahoo, and you and I will work together on this deal. After all, you know that I own Taobao and Alipay, and if I can join, the general idea of everyone's success is very huge."

After Zhou Liwen finished speaking, Son Zhengyi did not answer for a long time, he was quietly considering the conditions proposed by Zhou Liwen.

Ahri's shareholding structure is more complex, similar to Zhou's company, but not as cumbersome as Zhou's use of several offshore companies for cross-holding, which only uses an offshore job in the Cayman Islands as the parent company, and Ahri's company in the mainland market is a subsidiary of this parent company.

Before Son's investment in Ahri, Ahri received a 600,000 angel fund investment from Goldman Sachs, and the $260,000 that Son invested afterwards accounted for only 3% of the shares, and Ahri's controlling stake is still in the hands of management. If there is no change, SoftBank and Yahoo will invest more than $860,000 in strategic investment, that is, SoftBank 3, Yahoo 40, Ahri 3% management.

In the next few years, Yahoo and SoftBank will further increase their investment, and eventually Yahoo will have nearly 2. 0, SoftBank nearly 34. 0, other equity 2. 0, and then add Ahri's management stake 13. 0 shareholding structure.

Of course, everything has changed now, first of all, Zhou Liwen has made Alipay and Taobao, occupying an advantage in the online payment platform, and at the same time occupying the second dominant position in the Chinese mainland e-commerce market in the be port 2 payment. Judging from the estimation of the entire market capitalization, Zhou Liwen's two companies are much higher than Ahri's company, and if Zhou Liwen does not join the alliance, it will be much more difficult to develop these businesses on his own than in history.

Historically, the reason why SoftBank and Yahoo invested in Ahri's strategic investment of $860,000, and in the following years, they successively increased their investment of hundreds of millions to acquire the shares of Ahri's parent company in the Cayman Islands, it is precisely because of Ahri's strategic development plan. And now that Zhou Liwen, the predator, is in front of Ahri, it is very difficult to get over.

Son Zhengyi is very clear about this problem, and it is precisely with this in mind that he sent someone to China to negotiate with Liu Ting. He was joined by Yahoo and even other investors. But none of them expected that Zhou Liwen was behind these two IT companies.

If Zhou Liwen does not cooperate, and even confronts them at that time, it will be extremely difficult to complete the strategy. What if Ahri finally achieves the status of the country's boss in terms of BB? With just one BB business, neither Son's SoftBank nor Yahoo in the United States can invest such a huge amount of money to continue to support Ahri.

Investors are not stupid idiots with a lot of money, they invest their money to see the output. Although venture capital has the word risk, what is more important in its meaning is return. There is only risk and no return, no one can be so reckless, you must know that the 26 years of the Internet bubble has just passed, and now venture capital is much more cautious, and will no longer be as easy to take out money with just a project that blows up the sky as a few years ago.

Son Zhengyi knew that Zhou Liwen had more chips in his hands than himself, and the conditions proposed were relatively generous. Zhou Liwen said very clearly, on the one hand, he took out the operation of the or mobile phone in Japan in exchange, you must know that today's or mobile phone is not as good as it was back then, with the success of or several times, it has become the first in the world's smartphone industry. Different identities in the past, of course, there are also different treatments in the past, Zhou Liwen was begging the operator to cooperate, but now the operator is begging him to come to the door. As a commercial finance bank and electronic investment company, SoftBank is not very strong in telecommunications operations, and at least in Japan, there are far more suitable jobs as an operator than SoftBank.

As for the second point, Zhou Liming told Son in vain that he only needed 3% of the scoop shares, no matter where the shares came from. To tell the truth, when Son heard that Zhou Liming had unmistakably told him who the owners of Taobao and Alipay were, he retreated from Ahri in his mind. Because he invested in Ahri because he valued Ahri's development prospects, but now that Zhou Liwen is in front, the development difficulty of Ahri will increase several times or even more than ten times, so is there any value in continuing to invest?

Compared with the two, Son Masayoshi felt that it would be easier for Zhou Liwen's company to add another BB business, which was also one of his hesitations.

To be honest, Son did not deny the feasibility of Zhou Liwen's plan, but he could not answer Zhou Liwen's question right away. Because neither Yahoo nor Ahri can directly influence him, as a venture capitalist, he currently only holds 3% of Ahri's shares, unless he sells this share to Zhou Liwen to earn a vote and leaves, otherwise he has no way at all for the time being. But he sold the shares, and Son Zhengyi was reluctant, he believed that the role of this share in his hands was completely different from that in Zhou Liwen's hands.

"I'm sorry, I can't give you an answer right now." After thinking about it, Son sighed and said.

"I know, this is embarrassing you......." Zhou Liwen replied in a Japanese tone.

Son nodded: "That's it, let me think about it, but I want to determine a problem first."

"Please Say"

"If I propose to cross-swap shares with you, what is your attitude towards BAVC?"

Zhou Liwen thought for a while and said: "I personally agree with the cross-share swap from the theory, but according to the proportion of 3% spoon shares, considering the company's interests, the proportion of cross-share swap shall not be higher than 0, this is my bottom line, and I will promise that after the joint holding of Ahri, I will appropriately combine the business of the two major IT companies with each other to promote further development space." As we just talked about, to create a miracle that has never been done before, and that has surprised the world"

Son Masayoshi bowed his head and was silent, and after a long time he nodded and said, "Okay, I understand what you mean." After speaking, he got up and said, "You have worked hard all the way, I won't disturb your rest, so I will leave first."

"Thank you for your hospitality"

Zhou Liwen got up at the same time, bowed to Sun Zhengyi with Liu Ting, and then asked Liu Ting to send him out of the room for him.

A few minutes later, Liu Ting returned to the room and saw Zhou Liwen smoking a cigarette, and she sat down beside her.

"You're too harsh, aren't you? After all, Son was a businessman who once had as much wealth as Bill, so wouldn't he be angry if you forced him like this? And when I sent him out just now, I saw that his face was a little unpleasant. ”

"Hehe, it's not pretty? It's just not good-looking. Zhou Liwen smiled nonchalantly: "Wealth is a number to a certain point, how about Bill?" What about Masayoshi Son? I can do what they can do now. Besides, how do you know that if he doesn't look good, he's angry? The conditions I put forward sound harsh to you, maybe he doesn't think so. What's more, if I join forces with him, the results he will achieve are exactly what he dreamed of. ”

Liu Ting frowned, shook her head and said, "I don't know about this, but are you really so sure?" It's not self-defeating, is it? ”

"Self-defeating? Hehe, so what? Our advantage is much greater than his, and besides, you don't know the man Masayoshi Son, this guy values wealth more than anything else, and someone once commented on him that he was a man who looked for meat on the legs of mosquitoes, and that he had much more means than ordinary people for money. By the way, Tingting, in a few days, you will set up an e-commerce company to scare this guy, as before, use an offshore company to hold, specialize in BB business in China, and organize some people to prepare for the establishment, as for the model, for the time being, it will be carried out according to Ahri's model, and you can think about the name of the company yourself, even if it is called 'Forty Thieves, no problem'

Speaking of this, Zhou Liwen couldn't help laughing, he wondered in his heart what kind of expression he really wanted to make such a company, including Ma Qingyang, a classmate in China.

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