Chapter 876: The So-Called ...... Artistic Value (Part I)
"Nonsense?"
Tantai Wenhui sneered again: "You think that the status of classical music is higher than that of pop music, that is a matter of course, and I think that artistic value needs to be reflected in an intuitive way, that is, nonsense?" ā
"This kind of logic is really very powerful!"
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"Of course you're just messing around." Li Renguang jumped out again.
Just now he was beaten with a stick by Wenhui, and he was really embarrassed for a long time, but this was on a live TV show. Now that he finally waited for this opportunity, Li Renguang opened his mouth first in front of Li Liang Fengxiu.
"Oh? It turns out that there is really such a powerful logic, huh? Hehe, I would like to hear the details, and Wenhui listened to Mr. Li's high arguments. ā
Tonight's Wenhui has sharp words and a tough attitude, and her heart is full of a strong desire to "fight", which makes her feel as if she has returned to the time when she worked for the WMA again. At that time, she was always ready to compete with her competitors one after another, competing for the artists under her name, for their respective treatments, and for each other's status...... Fight for all people, things, and things that can be earned. More than ten years have passed in a hurry, and Wenhui has fought from a trainee agent to an intern agent, and from an intern agent to a formal agent, and then from the lowest level of non-level brokers all the way up, primary, intermediate, senior, and senior...... Up to the top ace brokers.
Wenhui's experience in WMA is a process of fighting all the way, and arguments like today's are even more commonplace, and they can happen anytime and anywhere, but she is not worried about such a scene at all, and her heart is secretly excited.
The exciting youth seems to have returned to her body again, and Wenhui is in good spirits, with a faint smile on her face, but her eyes are coldly staring at each of her opponents, like a "female leopard" ready to jump out and tear up her prey at any time.
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"President of Shantai, I think Sister Feng Xiu has just said very clearly that the artistic value of a work has existed since it was created, and I don't think there is any doubt about this." Li Renguang said calmly: "Since this point does not need to be demonstrated, then what is your statement just now if it is not nonsense?" ā
From the beginning of the show to the present, the goal of the argument between the two sides has been shifting, from the initial slightly crude arbitrary arguments of Huang Baiwen, and then to the respective positions of classical music and pop music, and as the debate escalates and continues to deepen, the focus of the debate has now shifted to the value of each. Li Renguang felt that he had seen the direction clearly, as long as he won this focal issue, the other party's argument would be untenable, and then his side would be able to take advantage of the victory and pursue it, and directly deduce the ultimate goal of "Ye Zi's misconduct".
Of course, Li Renguang hopes that he will complete this most important part by himself.
In fact, in his heart, there is no point in arguing honestly around a point of view like today, it is better to do his old job, use some questions with traps to lead the other party to the ditch, or simply point to the deer as a horse, put a crown on the horse, and reverse black and white, that is not a big deal. These are just means, as long as the end goal or desired effect is achieved.
As for whether Ye Zi's behavior is really wrong?
Rub, it's my business.
However, now the trend of the show is that the two sides are facing each other for a serious debate, but Li Renguang's best skills are useless. If he still used those tricky questions that concealed traps in the interview, they would have fallen straight behind.
Li Renguang is also clear about this.
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"Hehe......" Yutai Wenhui chuckled: "Mr. Li, then who told you that the artistic value of the work is innate?" Could you please prove that first? ā
Li Renguang was stunned: "Proof? Does this require any proof? Beethoven's symphonies are great to everyone, and their artistic value is there, even if they don't sell for a penny. ā
"President Tantai, do you think this can be denied?"
In one fell swoop, the reason for this example does seem to be quite sufficient and quite powerful.
But......
"Why can't it be denied?" Wenhui still smiled: "Let's imagine a scenario like this: if we put Beethoven's symphonic manuscripts in the hands of the Australian Aborigines, guess what will happen to them?" Would these manuscripts have any value to indigenous peoples? Their only value may be to send them to the fire in the cold, to bring the warmth that the indigenous people need most. ā
"That's the value of these manuscripts in the eyes of the indigenous people."
"Oh, by the way, the indigenous people also have their own arts, including music, dance, painting, etc., but I don't think Beethoven's music has much artistic value in the minds of the indigenous people. Whether or not they can be used as music by the indigenous people may still be a question. ā
"Mr. Li, do you still think that the artistic value of a work exists when it is created?"
Wenhui asked rhetorically with a chuckle.
"But ......" Li Renguang was once again stunned by Wenhui's counterattack.
Arguments like this are really not the strong point of on-location reporters.
"But this is your hypothetical situation, and it does not serve as a basis for argumentation." It was Li Liang Fengxiu who took over the scene.
Tantai Wenhui shook her head and smiled: "Okay, then let's not talk about the hypothetical situation, just take the actual situation as an example." ā
"Let's take Beethoven as an example."
"Beethoven is a saint of music in Europe and the United States, and his works are generally recognized as of great artistic value, which I do not deny, and I personally like Beethoven's works very much, especially the 32 piano sonatas. But may I ask Ms. Fengxiu, Europe and the United States...... Will it represent the whole world? ā
"Of course not." Li Liang Fengxiu said very simply.
She would never argue with Wenhui on such an issue, it was unnecessary, but what she thought in her heart, she could guess a thing or two from her language and arguments. In fact, not only Li Liang Fengxiu, but also in the hearts of many people, European and American countries can indeed "represent" the whole world.
This is a fairly common and typical mentality.
But Wenhui obviously doesn't see it that way, even if she has worked in Europe and the United States for a long time.
"Since European and American countries do not represent the whole world, then the values of European and American countries also cannot represent the values of the whole world, and there is certainly no problem with this inference."
"Then here's the real problem."
"Since the values of Europe and the United States do not represent the values of the whole world, then Ms. Feng Xiu, Mr. Li, Well, and Mr. Huang must also hold this view, how can you be sure that Beethoven's works have the same artistic value everywhere?"
Wenhui ignored the actions of Li Liang Fengxiu and Huang Baiwen who had already raised the microphone, and continued to follow their own train of thought.
"In my opinion, Beethoven's works have extremely high artistic value for European and American countries, especially those on the European continent, but when it comes to Xiangjiang, this artistic value is only the text depictions in the textbooks and the spiritual feast of a few so-called elites. It's hard for me to imagine that grandpas and grandparents living in public housing would be very recognizant of the artistic value of Beethoven's works, and I think they should be more respectful of the artistic value of the famous Cantonese opera singers. ā
"So in my opinion, there is no need to tout the so-called artistic value too high, let alone treat the so-called artistic value of classical music with trembling like worship. Isn't it ridiculous that certain combinations of melodies and harmonies sound like meteors crossing the sky when they fall to some people's ears, and then a deep connotation emerges, and then an artistic value arises? This is nothing more than some additional things that others have given to the work, you say that it has it, then it has it, and if you want to say that it does not have it, then it is nothing. ā
"It's as simple as that."
Wenhui's tone was unusually relaxed, and a hint of mockery appeared at the corner of her mouth. The passage just now was said by Tai Wenhui heartily, and some of the skins of classical music were almost completely peeled off.
"President Shantai, value nihilism has long been proven to be a major cancer that is extremely harmful to classical music, this is the consensus of everyone."
"Please...... Don't mislead others for yourself. ā
Li Liang Fengxiu's voice and eyes lost their temperature at the same time. (To be continued.) )