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Regarding the question of political dynamics, it is inconvenient for Lin Zhenhua to say more, and He Haifeng will not ask more. He is in such a sensitive department as the Commission for the Reform of the System, and he knows more about political matters than Lin Zhenhua. What he lacks is just Lin Zhenhua's foresight.

Lin Zhenhua's reminder is enough for He Haifeng, he knows how he should stand in line in the future.

"Xiaolin, you didn't come to Beijing this time to call for the bridge to be blown up, right?" He Haifeng brought the topic back to the beginning and asked in a half-joking tone.

Lin Zhenhua smiled: "Half of the purpose is this." ”

He Haifeng said: "I thought about what you said just now, and I think it makes sense. The Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge is a fait accompli, and now we don't have the ability to build a new bridge to replace it, so we can't move it for the time being. However, the new bridges on the Yangtze River in the future should have a vision, and we should not make mistakes, so that when we want to correct this mistake, we have no way to start.

In this case, after you go back, ask the comrades of Xunyang City or Jiangnan Province to form a report on this issue and submit it to me, and I will submit it to the comrades of the Politburo, so that we can get instructions from the leadership. In this way, we will have a basis for consulting with the Planning Commission, the National Planning Commission, and other departments to formulate a relevant management method. ”

"Thank you, Lao He." Lin Zhenhua said.

"What do we say about thank you or not, besides, this should actually be the business of our macro management departments, and it is already our dereliction of duty to let the comrades of your enterprises remind us." He Haifeng said, "By the way, Xiaolin, you just said that this is only half of the purpose, so what is the other half?" ”

"The other half is a more troublesome thing." Lin Zhenhua said.

"No, I really can't think of something more troublesome than blowing up the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge." He Haifeng said depressedly. He remembered that when he was having dinner with friends a few days ago, someone joked that the Forbidden City would be demolished and turned into a staff dormitory, which was probably even more incredible than blowing up the Nanjing Yangtze River Bridge. However, Lin Zhenhua doesn't seem to have any intention of coming to Beijing to engage in real estate, right?

"Jiangbei Petrochemical has a set of 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment imported from Germany, you know this, right?" Lin Zhenhua asked.

"Of course I do." He Haifeng said.

The first 300,000-ton ethylene plant in China was the 300,000-ton ethylene plant of Beijing Yanshan Petrochemical, which was put into operation in 1976. By 1978, under the guidance of the Yangyue import number of the construction of "ten Anshan Iron and Steel and ten Daqing", the state introduced four sets of 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, but due to the adjustment of the national economy, the introduction of these four sets of equipment has not been able to start construction, and the annual maintenance cost alone has reached millions of dollars. Since 1983, the state has successively raised funds to launch these four sets of equipment, and Lin Zhenhua's 300,000 tons of ethylene from Jiangbei Petrochemical is one of these four sets of equipment.

The investment in large-scale ethylene projects is very huge, the total construction cost of a 300,000-ton ethylene project can be as high as 7 billion yuan, in 1983, the country's annual investment in fixed assets was only 140 billion, and an ethylene project is equivalent to 1/20 of the scale of fixed asset investment in the whole society.

"I got the news that Jiangbei Petrochemical recently intends to upgrade this set of 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, increasing the production capacity from 300,000 tons to 450,000 tons, and the Ministry of Petroleum and the State Planning Commission have approved this plan." Lin Zhenhua said.

He Haifeng asked, "Does this have anything to do with you?" ”

"Of course it does." Lin Zhenhua said, "We Hanhua Heavy Industry has begun to carry out the research and development of large ethylene equipment a few years ago, and now we have achieved some results, I want to take advantage of the opportunity of Jiangbei Petrochemical to upgrade the equipment to improve our technology to a level." ”

"You mean, you Hanhua Heavy Industries want to undertake this equipment upgrade project?" He Haifeng asked. He didn't know much about the specific technical issues of the petrochemical industry, and he didn't know if Lin Zhenhua was capable of undertaking such a project. In his impression, China does not have the manufacturing technology of 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, and when Yanshan petrochemical equipment was introduced, it is said that even a screw had to be imported from abroad. ,

Sure enough, Lin Zhenhua shook his head and said, "We don't have this strength yet. Our Hanhua Heavy Industry is just an upstart, although we have just swallowed the original Jiangnan Petrochemical Machinery Factory, but in terms of technical strength, it can only be regarded as second-rate in China. Old petrochemical machinery factories like Daqing and Lanzhou can't get 300,000 tons of ethylene, let alone us. ”

"And what are you going to do?" He Haifeng didn't understand.

Lin Zhenhua said: "The key host of this project needs to be imported from abroad, and the total value will reach more than 200 million US dollars. The $200 million project is a big piece of fat for any equipment manufacturer, and we can't throw it out so casually, but have to attach some conditions. ”

"On what terms?"

"Technology transfer." Lin Zhenhua said.

"What do you mean?" He Haifeng asked, he has always been very interested in Lin Zhenhua's ideas.

Lin Zhenhua said: "Lao He, you see, with the improvement of our country's economic strength, the import scale of various equipment continues to expand, and it has become a very noteworthy buyer in the international market." We should make full use of this position and ask equipment suppliers to transfer equipment manufacturing technology to us at the same time as we introduce equipment. In other words, we not only have to buy fish, but we also have to have the other person teach us how to catch fish. ”

"This can't be, right?" He Haifeng said, "People themselves are fish sellers, if you are taught to catch fish, won't people starve to death?" ”

Lin Zhenhua said: "No, we are currently in many fields, and the gap between us and foreign technology is not only one generation, but two or three generations. Of course, it is impossible for the other side to cede the most advanced technology to us, but if we only want the technology of the next generation, the other side will not necessarily refuse. ”

"Can you give an example?" He Haifeng asked.

"Yes." Lin Zhenhua said, "For example, our country once organized 110,000 tons of ethylene research, but in the end it failed. At present, the State Planning Commission intends to carry out research on 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, but there are gaps in funds and talents, and various enterprises also lack enthusiasm, so we have not been able to master this technology. At present, foreign countries already have 600,000 tons of ethylene technology, and we ask them to transfer 300,000 tons of technology, which is acceptable for them. ”

"But even if we get 300,000 tons of technology, won't we still fall behind foreigners?" He Haifeng raised the bar and said, he didn't oppose Lin Zhenhua's opinion, he just used this method to force Lin Zhenhua to fully express his thoughts.

Lin Zhenhua said: "With 300,000 tons of technology, it's better than nothing, right?" We haven't even solved 110,000 tons, and if we can have 300,000 tons of technology all at once, then it will be easier to catch up with 600,000 tons of technology. ”

He Haifeng worried: "Will this cause domestic companies to lose the motivation to engage in research and blindly wait for the introduction from abroad?" Your idea seems to be a bit like buying a ship. ”

Shipbuilding is better than buying a ship, which was a point of view that was criticized during the Cultural Revolution. At that time, it was realized that only by building one's own ships could one master the experience of shipbuilding, and that it would be possible to build larger ships. When it comes to scientific research, some people think that all technologies must be studied by themselves in order to grasp their principles. If technology is imported from abroad, research capabilities will be lost.

Lin Zhenhua smiled slightly and said, "Lao He, you underestimate the consciousness and level of our grassroots scientific researchers. In fact, even in the era when it was criticized that shipbuilding was not as good as buying a ship, we had always been learning advanced foreign technology. At that time, we bought foreign equipment back for dismantling and imitation testing, isn't this also borrowing from other people's technology? Now we have such conditions, directly from abroad to import technology, saving us time to explore, what's so bad? Even if we have to do it ourselves, we need to improve it, right? ”

He Haifeng said: "Okay, let's think your idea is reasonable, so why do you believe that others are willing to transfer the technology of the backward generation to us?" People can also think of this, we have mastered the technology of the backward generation, and the technological gap with them has narrowed, and people are not willing to train competitors for themselves, right? ”,

Lin Zhenhua said with a smile: "This involves the wisdom of doing business. The same 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, the Japanese can do it, the Germans can also do it, as well as Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States, all of which have similar technologies. If you don't want to transfer, there are always others who want to transfer. The capitalists are profit-seeking, and I don't believe they would be willing to give up a $200 million contract for the sake of these backward generation of technology. ”

"You're saying that if they don't transfer technology, we don't contract them?" He Haifeng somewhat understood what Lin Zhenhua meant.

"It's called market for technology." Lin Zhenhua said with a smile, "So far, we have introduced 5 sets of 300,000 tons of ethylene equipment, and if nothing else, we will introduce 5 more sets or even 10 sets in the future." We have already let out this market, if we don't change some technology back, isn't it a loss? ”

The concept of market for technology had already been put forward at that time, mainly derived from the case of China's introduction of German car technology. Regarding the gains and losses of the market for technology, later generations have mixed reviews. But there's no doubt that back then, whether you were willing to change technology or not, China simply couldn't hold on to these markets. At that time, there were only two options: first, to give up the market and exchange for technology; Second, give up the market, don't use technology.

Any decision-maker whose brain is not flooded should choose the former.

Critics often start from their own imagination and construct a beautiful story that as long as they retain the market, they can promote independent innovation. In fact, the story is nothing more than an illusion. Taking the Jiefang brand truck, which people were very proud of, as an example, from the first Jiefang brand car off the assembly line in 1956 to 1986, for 30 years, the Jiefang brand truck did occupy China's truck market, but did it have the slightest innovation? If technology is not introduced, perhaps its familiar old face will continue for another 30 years.

Lin Zhenhua is very pragmatic, and as a manager with a science and engineering background, he knows that any empty slogan is meaningless. There is a big technological gap between China and foreign countries, and if we can narrow this gap by exchanging technology from the market, it will be easier to catch up.

"Have you communicated with the Ministry of Petroleum about this idea?" He Haifeng asked.

"After the communication, they are still a little hesitant." Lin Zhenhua said.

"What are you hesitating about?" He Haifeng asked.

Lin Zhenhua said: "If there is no clause attached to this transfer of technology, then it will be very easy for them to negotiate with foreign businessmen, because this is an order for others, and others are begging for them." But if this clause on the transfer of technology is added, the status of both parties changes, and it becomes that we have something to ask for others. For the officials in charge of negotiations, of course, they are not willing to add trouble to themselves. ”

"What a fool!" He Haifeng reprimanded softly, "They don't want to think about it, this time the negotiation may be a little troublesome, but if we can get some technology, the future negotiation hole card will be even harder." Otherwise, your skills will always lag behind others, and when others want to pinch you, you will have no room to fight back. ”

"Lao He, your proposal is quite novel." Lin Zhenhua smiled, "Why didn't I think of this layer? I knew that was the case, so I went and told the officials of the Ministry of Oil. ”

He Haifeng shook his head and said, "It's useless, even if they think of this layer, they won't do it." This time the negotiation is just a few of them, and the next time it may be someone else, they don't need to think so far for others. ”

"Uh......" Lin Zhenhua was speechless, he had to admit that He Haifeng's analysis was right, it seems that He Haifeng has eaten 20 years more than him, and he has not eaten for nothing. Lin Zhenhua has been working in the enterprise, and Hanhua Heavy Industry is a relatively rare enterprise with a good atmosphere, so Lin Zhenhua lacks a deep understanding of the various practices of kicking the ball and shirking responsibility in the officialdom.

"What are you going to do?" He Haifeng asked.

Lin Zhenhua said: "The current situation is not so pessimistic, and some officials from the Ministry of Petroleum still agree with my ideas, and in addition, some officials from the State Planning Commission also support my views. What I need to do now is to mobilize more people to help speak, so as to prompt the Ministry of Petroleum to make up its mind to open a precedent for market change of technology in this Jiangbei Petrochemical technical transformation project, and make it a common practice. ”

"So you're coming to me?" He Haifeng said with a smile.

"That's right, I know that Director He has always been far-sighted, and I will definitely support my idea. If Director He could say something for us, the weight would be very different. Lin Zhenhua said with a smile...... ）