Chapter 133: Dialogue
But one thing must always be looked at from two sides, can't be mentioned casually doesn't mean can't be mentioned, if everyone goes with the flow, get by, how can this society develop?
Now Kang Xuedong did not directly raise the issue of transportation bottlenecks, but only said that he wanted to develop the transportation capacity of the Far Eastern Railway, which was the first step. At present, the cooperation has not yet begun, and although the amount of rail transportation alone is small, it can also ensure the continuation of cooperation. As for scaling up, that's for later.
But he deliberately raised this point, which was also a signal to the other party. If the other party also has this meaning, they will naturally give it back. Both sides have concubines who are interested, and everything will be easy to operate.
They actively prepared all the preparations and reported back when the time came. Only with the assistance of the state can this kind of transnational pipeline construction have a chance to be truly established. The construction of such large-scale infrastructure facilities is often a period of several years of preparation and several years of construction, and it is impossible to rush it.
Abu asked next to him: "At present, Petronas and Yukos are negotiating an oil pipeline from Russia to China, and we also know that there are inextricable ties with Petronas, I wonder if you can get the rights and interests in this pipeline?" ”
His English was much better than Berezovsky's, who was originally a mathematics professor and spoke English with a strong Russian accent. Chen Mo often had to listen carefully to understand his words. Abu, on the other hand, is fluent in English, even surpassing most of the people who do it again.
Kang Xuedong pondered for a moment and said: "We and PetroChina are brother companies that are separated from the same company, and in many places, we have common interests, but at the same time, we also have a certain competitive relationship. It is not difficult to take a certain share of the interests of this oil pipeline, but I do not think that this oil pipeline will really be built as scheduled. ”
"Why?" Except for Chen Mo. Everyone had a look of interest.
"Because the pipeline did not fully consider the interests of everyone, Yukos had too much interest in the construction of the pipeline, which has also caused the pipeline to be unapproved. If we expect a piece of the pie when this pipeline is successfully built, it is better for us to start anew and re-engineer a pipeline. Of course, this is just my personal thoughts. ”
"But the planning and construction of a pipeline is a very rigorous matter. We started too late, and it will take at least five years for this pipeline to work. ”
Chen Mo couldn't help but say: "Yukos' feasibility report is not a secret, and their research results are also positive for us, which can save us at least two years." ”
But as soon as the words came out, he wanted to give himself a mouthful. On this occasion, except for his godfather and Vice President Shen, who have the right to speak, not to mention his small role, even Minister Xue has no qualifications to interject. He will now make a statement. It will only make yourself appear rude.
Everyone's eyes were on him, and he didn't even dare to look at his godfather's gaze, for fear of seeing a disappointed look in his eyes.
Berezovsky laughed and said: "Roman, when I was in London, I was influenced by Evan and realized that we saw our mistakes in the strategic development of the company. He was a young man though. But at the same time, it has a vitality that we don't have, and it is a young person who is very much worth looking forward to. ”
Abu laughed. "Why did you come up with the idea of using Yukos' feasibility study?" ”
At this time, Chen Mo could only bite the bullet and say: "From Angarsk to Daqing in China, this route has studied all the geological conditions of East Siberia and the Far East. If we get this study, it means that we don't need to spend a lot of money and time on it. And between Western Siberia and Eastern Siberia, there are already several oil pipelines that have been built, so. For us, there are convenient conditions. ”
The vast area from the Ural Mountains to Lake Baikal has the richest oil reserves in Russia, but due to the past few decades, demand from Asia has been small. Therefore, most of the oil here is transported to Europe, except for domestic digestion in Russia. However, due to the distance, the cost of oil here is much higher than that of the Caucasus.
However, if you want to transport oil to the Far East Asia, there is no oil pipeline so far, and you can only transport it by rail. The efficiency of rail transport is inefficient, a train can hang up to forty carriages, and the maximum capacity is only two thousand tons. At present, the crude oil trading volume between China and Russia is only one million tons, far lower than the 10 million tons in the Middle East, mainly because of transportation bottlenecks.
According to the current mainstream oil tankers, 300,000 tons and 400,000 tons of oil tankers abound, a 400,000-ton oil tanker, a transportation volume is equivalent to the transportation volume of 20 fully loaded trains, so this advantage is incomparable to the train.
The only way to get rid of the bottleneck of transportation is to build oil pipelines. The Tainer Line pipeline built in later generations has a designed oil transport capacity of 80 million tons a year, which is equivalent to the transportation volume of 40,000 fully loaded trains, which is equivalent to more than 100 trains transporting oil every day. And a railway line can't meet such a big demand.
Everyone knows this, but the problems that need to be solved to build an oil pipeline are not easy to solve by one or two companies. If you want to promote this plan, it is not something that a few of them can negotiate just by sitting here.
Kang Xuedong said for Chen Mohe: "Although young people are energetic, they lack the overall vision and understanding. He could only see the benefits of the oil pipeline, but he did not understand how many difficulties we had to face. If this was a simple matter, wouldn't Yukos and Petronas have already implemented their plans?! ”
Berezovsky smiled and said, "I'd love to hear what Evan thinks about this." The idea of a Sino-Russian oil pipeline was proposed six years ago, but for various reasons, it is still a concept today. So whether it is people of insight in China or we Russian oil people, in fact, we are very much looking forward to the early completion of this pipeline. However, putting aside the existing Ontario line and planning another line is something that no one expected. Evan, why do you think that? ”
Chen Mo knew very well in his heart that the future pipeline construction controversy would be thrown, but he didn't want to throw it out now, because it wouldn't bring him any benefits. Only at the right time, little by little, to maximize the benefits, is it a matter of course.
Kang Xuedong was also afraid that Chen Mo would let off the cannon again, so he threw out an inappropriate point of view and took over the topic. "I also have some opinions on this matter, and I hope to be able to exchange them with the two gentlemen. At present, the main contradictions in the route planned by Yukos and Petronas are concentrated in three places. One is that Yukos set its starting point in Angarsk and did not take good care of the interests of other oil companies. Although Angarsk is closer to China, the oil fields there belong only to Yukos and do not help other companies sell. So among the oil companies, there will not be much support, or even opposition. ”
Berezovsky remained silent, only Abu nodded, obviously agreeing with Kang Xuedong's point of view. "The second point is that Yukos has not taken care of the interests of the pipeline construction company, which is a state-owned enterprise that represents the interests of the Russian government, and their opposition has made this plan not supported by the government," he added. Moreover, the Far Eastern Railway Company and the Russian shipping company are also opponents of this plan. ”
"The third point is the complexity of the international situation, the current Ontario line only transports oil to Daqing, China, and does not benefit Japan and South Korea, so they have been exerting pressure to prevent this plan from being implemented smoothly. Even if we want to redesign a pipeline outside of them, we can't escape the constraints of these three conditions, and if we can't solve these three problems, then this plan is better not to be put forward for the time being. ”
Berezovsky nodded and said, "Mr. Kang's analysis of things is very detailed, but you can see the problems, presumably you should also have your own considerations for these aspects, right?" ”
Of course, Kang Xuedong would not reveal his intentions first, laughed, and said: "I am like an ordinary doctor, I can find out that a patient has cancer, but in the face of this disease, I can't do anything. ”
Vice President Shen took over and said: "For this complex situation involving international relations and Russia's domestic affairs, we, as business managers in foreign countries, are really powerless. However, we have a sincere heart and are willing to promote a close partnership between CNPC and Siberian Oil Company. ”
Abu said with a smile: "This is also our expectation. Siberian Oil Company has abundant oil reserves, while PetroChina has one of the largest markets in the world. The two companies have good prospects for cooperation, which is also what we value in CNPC, although there are still many difficulties in front of us, but I believe that these difficulties will not become obstacles to our development, but will become the cornerstone of our development. ”
Berezovsky clapped his hands with a smile and said: "Roman's meaning also represents my meaning, and I am very optimistic about the prospects for the development between us, like everyone." However, the road under our feet needs us to walk step by step, we cannot lack a far-sighted vision, and we can also not lack a sincere and down-to-earth spirit of hard work. The future is worth looking forward to, and what we need to do first also needs to take the first step. (To be continued.) )