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Hearing Song Dingxiang's words, Hong Feng was stunned for a moment, he was a leader, and he didn't know enough about these things in advance. The topic of today's meeting was not originally to cooperate with Hanlu Machine Tool, but to talk about the acquisition of these chips from Hanlu Machine Tool. Everyone thinks more about how to get more chips through the channel of Hanlu machine tool, so no one cares about its ownership.

Just now, Lin Zhenhua fought with Song Dingxiang, Hu Jin and others, and Hong Feng saw it in his eyes. Lin Zhenhua's ideas gave Hong Feng a lot of inspiration. In fact, he also knows very well in his heart that the 858 factory and some other equipment manufacturing enterprises in the system have limited technical strength and are not enough to provide sufficient equipment for the entire system. Lin Zhenhua suggested that the Science and Technology Industry Commission should open up the system to local enterprises and allow local enterprises to participate in military production.

However, if Hanlu Machine Tool Company is a foreign-funded enterprise, this problem becomes more complicated. From Hong Feng's psychology, state-owned enterprises are the most reliable, followed by private enterprises, and foreign-funded enterprises are almost not considered. He looked up at Lin Zhenhua and asked, "Manager Lin, just now Director Song said that your Hanlu Machine Tool Company has a background of American capital, is this situation true?" ”

Lin Zhenhua didn't answer, but turned his head to look at Chen Tian. Chen Tian smiled and said to Hong Feng: "Deputy Director Hong, I will tell you about this matter after the meeting." However, I can express a position here, Zhenhua's Hanlu Machine Tool Company is politically trustworthy. ”

"Well, okay." Hong Feng nodded and stopped asking for details. He knew that Chen Tian was a person from the security department, and his political sensitivity was enough, and since he dared to endorse Hanlu Machine Tool Company, then this company should not have too many problems.

"In this way, Manager Lin, your proposal to open the defense industry to the private sector is very meaningful, and I will submit it to the office meeting of the Commission of Science and Technology for discussion. In the matter of five-axis chips, we will still fully respect your ideas. Can you tell us more about how you think about our cooperation? Hong Feng said.

Lin Zhenhua said: "It's completely possible." Ladies and gentlemen, several of us have come to the Commission of Science and Technology this time in the hope of establishing a long-term and stable cooperative relationship with the Commission of Science and Technology. There is no conflict between the two sides in terms of essential goals, both of which are for the sake of a strong country and a prosperous people, so the foundation of our cooperation is solid.

In my opinion, the defense industry is right to insist on secrecy. However, too much emphasis on secrecy, even on some issues that are not particularly valuable for secrecy, is not conducive to the development of the national defense industry. No matter how powerful the Science and Technology Commission is, there are always places that cannot be taken care of, and in this regard, tens of thousands of local enterprises are fully functional. ”

"Well, that's a good point, tell me how you plan to play a role." Hong Feng asked.

Lin Zhenhua said: "We hope that the Commission of Science and Technology can list us as an equipment supplier for the national defense industry, we Hanlu Machine Tool Company has very rich experience in machine tool design and manufacturing, and with our cooperation with the American Spischer Company, our technical level will have a significant leap." We hope that the Commission of Science and Technology will send experts to inspect our company and clarify which equipment can be provided by our company. For example, this time after we obtained the five-axis chip, we have formulated a plan to develop a five-axis linkage machining center, and the Science and Technology Commission only needs to tell us your needs for the five-axis machining center, and there is no need to start anew. ”

"This is obviously your new stove, and our 858 factory is fully capable of designing and manufacturing five-axis machine tools." Hu Jin couldn't help but speak.

Lin Zhenhua asked: "Director Hu, let's not say whether your design ability and manufacturing level are stronger than our Hanlu Machine Tool Company, even if your level is higher, is your production capacity enough?" ”

"Of course, it is enough, we are fully able to meet the needs of the enterprises under the Commission of Science and Technology." Hu Jin said.

Lin Zhenhua smiled dumbly: "Director Hu, it's not only your Science and Industry Commission system that needs five-axis machine tools, right?" There are countless industrial enterprises in the country that need high-end processing equipment, can you meet them? ”,

"They...... They ...... "Hu Jin is up." He has the intention to say that the affairs of local enterprises have nothing to do with him, but in this way, does it mean that the local government has to establish another set of equipment production systems, and this is still a new concept.

Lin Zhenhua said: "Director Hu can't answer, right?" In fact, whether you are engaged in five-axis machine tools or not, we must engage in Hanlu machine tools. Your military industrial system needs it, local enterprises also need it, and we can also consider exporting it in the future. Therefore, the design and manufacture of five-axis machine tools, should be based on our local enterprises, we can accept the order of the Commission of Science and Technology, and the price can also be given to the Commission of Science and Technology to give full concessions, of course, ......"

Speaking of this, he glanced at Song Dingxiang with his eyes and swallowed back the words behind. He originally planned to say that no matter how cheap it was, it couldn't cost 100 yuan a piece, but after thinking about it, he still forgot it. Everyone finally took Liang Zi over, so why did he bother to slap Lao Song's face again.

"Then what are we doing in Factory 858?" Hu Jin asked, according to Lin Zhenhua, there is nothing to do with the 858 factory, and thousands of people in the factory are still counting on the five-axis machine tool project to pay bonuses.

Lin Zhenhua said: "Director Hu, 858 Factory and our Hanlu Machine Tool Company can establish a cooperative relationship." As far as I know, you have a lot of unique skills in CNC technology, and we would very much like to get your advice. We can form a strategic partnership to jointly develop CNC machine tools. In the future, part of the machine tools will be produced in our Hanlu Machine Tool Company, and the other part will be produced in your 858 factory. The machine tools you produce are not only supplied to the military system, but also to the local area, which is not much better than the one acre and three points of land you guard the military industry? ”

"I'm afraid this won't work." Hu Jin shook his head and said, "We are a military industrial enterprise, and the technology we develop is confidential. ”

"This is also what I want to talk to Deputy Director Hong about." Lin Zhenhua said, "Some time ago, I had a chat with some economic students at Renmin University, and they told me a word called technology spillover. It is a pity that the technology developed by one department is always in its own hands, and it should be able to drive the development of other departments, so as to give full play to the maximum benefits. In the past few decades, our country has invested a lot of money in military scientific research and has formed many technologies that have reached the international advanced level, but these technologies have not been invested in the field of national economic construction, which is a great waste. ”

The concept of spillover of technology used by Lin Zhenhua here is different from its original meaning. Economically, technology spillover refers to the fact that when multinational corporations invest in the host country, the technology they bring will have a demonstration effect on the enterprises of the host country, thereby driving the technological development of the enterprises of the host country. Lin Zhenhua borrowed this concept here to propose to transfer technology in the field of national defense and military industry to the private sector and promote the development of private technology, and there are some similarities between the two.

Hearing Lin Zhenhua's words, Chen Tian added: "We have also noticed this problem that Zhenhua said. The military industry and the civilian industry in developed countries are highly correlated. The computer technology and nuclear technology developed by the United States for military purposes in World War II were rapidly applied to the civilian field after the war. The United States recently proposed the Star Wars program, which is also a military program, but judging from the current situation, its military progress is far less than its promotion of civilian technology. I think that the development of China's military industry should also learn from this model of the United States. ”

"Xiao Zhang, record this problem, and form a briefing after the meeting, and invite several directors to take a look." Hong Feng said to a staff member next to him, obviously, what Lin Zhenhua and Chen Tian said made him feel very valuable.

Lin Zhenhua finished talking about the truth, and then returned to reality, he said: "Some of the technologies currently owned by the 858 factory are actually of no secret value to foreign countries. People also have this kind of technology, even if you take a big horn and shout at them, they don't bother to listen. In this case, there is only one object of your secrecy, and that is our own civilian industry in China. ”

"Hehe, let Xiao Lin say this, it seems to be the case." Hong Feng laughed.

The problem that Lin Zhenhua said was actually a layer of window paper, and everyone didn't think it was until it was pierced, but once it was pierced, it was found to be really ridiculous. Some technologies are already available abroad, and the military industrial system has also been studied, but only local enterprises in China do not master them. At this time, it is understandable that foreign countries will blockade China, but the blockade of civilian use by the military industry is very absurd.

"Old Song, this problem is worth studying, let's clean it up carefully, and see what technologies in the system have been developed abroad, we don't need to keep it secret, let's decrypt it." Hong Feng instructed Song Dingxiang.

Song Dingxiang hurriedly recorded these words in his notebook, and replied at the same time: "Okay, let's do it as soon as possible." ”

"It can't be completely decrypted, and it's necessary to maintain a proper sense of mystery." Chen Tian reminded.

"This is natural, don't bother Xiao Chen to remind me." Hong Feng replied.

Of course, Chen Tian's reminder is also reasonable, and there are two purposes of secrecy in the defense industry, one is to prevent the technology that he has exclusively mastered from being mastered by foreigners, and the other is to disguise the capabilities he has achieved and play the role of strategically confusing his opponents. What Chen Tian said is the latter project, and if all the uproar is declassified, a foreign country will see that China's military industrial strength is in this situation, and it will also have an impact on national defense and security.

Of course, Hong Feng is also well aware of this, and how to grasp the relationship between technology transfer and confidentiality cannot be clearly explained in one sentence. However, with this idea, it is not difficult to know how to do it. (To be continued)