Chapter 954: Discussion with Zhu Qingshi
"It will definitely not be a mode of the college entrance examination, I think that the college entrance examination can be taken or not, of course, the test must be taken, but this test should be decided by this school."
"It's called self-admission."
"Yes, but this independent enrollment is different from the independent enrollment of some schools now, he is not bound by the state, and secondly, he can be completely independent, and he can use his own innovative and unique ways to recruit the talents he wants."
"What about the lectures, what about the lecturers? If it is a private institution, it may be difficult to attract well-known professors and scholars. Of course, regular lecturers will definitely be able to find it. However, this is not what institutions need. ”
"I think there are two aspects that can be used to poach talents, one is to poach talents through funds. Of course, this is not something that anyone can dig into. The other is to cooperate with well-known universities at home and abroad, and invite some of their professors and experts to teach according to specific methods. ”
"This method is good, but the most important thing is the issue of diplomas, who will guarantee the diploma of private institutions?"
"This is the hardest part, and there may be some people who won't accept it at first. But I believe that as long as we keep running it, as long as such private institutions can impart real knowledge and cultivate talents, sooner or later, even if it is a diploma from a private institution, everyone will accept it. ”
"Ideas are good, but human-like ideas may not keep up with the pace of reformers."
The two of them talked about each other on Weibo from time to time.
At the beginning, Zhu Qingshi just wanted to explain a few words to Zhang Ning's vest number.
But later, the more Zhu Qingshi explained, the more he found that this friend @ himself on the Internet seemed to have a lot of research on education. Although this research may not be deep enough and not detailed enough. But at least, he has a long-term vision, far beyond what ordinary people can compare.
In particular, the other party's words about independent enrollment, self-awarding degrees, and self-awarding diplomas simply won Zhu Qingshi's heart.
"You're saying so well that I thought you wouldn't agree with me."
Zhu Qingshi replied to Zhang Ning on Weibo.
"Heh, in fact, I have many of the same thoughts as you, but there are many questions that have not been explained."
"yes, I actually have a lot of questions. Although, I also have some ideas. But if these problems cannot be solved, then China's education reform will not be possible. Just like the issue of private schools, I'm afraid, as you said, there aren't many schools that are interested in such schools. I'm afraid, there are some who are interested, and they just think of the school as a kind of business. ”
Private institutions of higher learning such as Yanda Jade Bird are said to be institutions of higher learning, but they are actually training institutions.
Of course, it's not that they won't teach you, in fact, the techniques they teach are still okay.
If you study hard, it is not necessarily worse than in a general university.
But this is just a pure teaching of technology, teaching the skills that can work at work, and it is impossible to train any masters.
One asked, the other answered.
Occasionally, the two also switch roles and communicate from time to time.
Two hours later, Zhu Qingshi said excitedly, "Where are you, I really want to meet you." ”
"Ah, meet?"
Zhang Ning was a little dumbfounded.
Sister Nun, I wanted to meet you when I found a relationship before, but you haven't seen you yet.
Now it's better, I want to see myself coming.
However, the other party also does not know his identity.
Although there was some depression in his heart, this guy had a big temper before, but Zhang Ning didn't care.
Sometimes, these really talented guys really have some special weird problems.
Let's meet when we meet, and when the time comes, it's no wonder if I don't scare you.
"I don't mean anything else. I just want to discuss with you about education reform, although the communication on Weibo is not bad, but in the end there are still some limitations, so I want to meet you. ”
"Okay, when."
"Tomorrow, I'm in Yanjing, where are you, I'll go to you."
"I'm also in Yanjing, so I'll go to you."
"Okay, I'm retired at home now, welcome to my home. By the way, I haven't asked your Excellency for your surname. ”
"My surname is Zhang."
……
The next day, Zhang Ning attached Zhu Qingshi's appointment and visited again.
"When you are young, Zhang Ning is coming to visit you again."
"Zhang Ning, which Zhang Ning?"
"Which Zhang Ning are you talking about, Zhang Ning of the penguin company, how good a young man is, he came to the door twice three times. As soon as your temper came up, you didn't see anyone. I think it's because you didn't teach such a good student, so you're red-eyed, right? ”
Zhu Qingshi's wife Liu Mei counted Zhu Qingshi.
She likes Zhang Ning very much.
"This time, I don't care, even if you don't see him again, I'll bring him over."
"Alright, alright, alright, alright, bring him in."
Zhu Qingshi was counted down by his wife, and he also felt a little embarrassed, so he had to nod and say.
A few minutes later, Zhang Ning, led by Zhu Qingshi's wife Liu Mei, entered Zhu Qingshi's apartment.
"Come, Xiao Ning, sit, sit, you're welcome, Qingshi, what's the matter, you haven't come out yet."
After calling a few times, Zhu Qingshi walked from his study to the living room and glanced at Zhang Ning.
"Mr. Zhu, hello."
Zhang Ning said hello very politely.
"Sit, don't be so angry, I know what you mean, and I've told you in your life. However, I'm sorry, I've resigned from CUHK, and I'm getting older, so I may not be able to help you. ”
"Oh, really?"
Zhang Ning smiled and said, "Mr. Zhu, I didn't want to invite you out of the mountain this time. ”
"And what are you doing here?"
Zhu Qingshi asked strangely.
"Haha, Mr. Zhu, this is your mistake, you invited me here."
"I invited you?"
Zhu Qingshi touched his head, "When did I invite you here?" ”
"Didn't you?"
"Yes?"
"Mr. Zhu, think about it, yesterday, you didn't invite someone."
"Yesterday ......"
Zhu Qingshi shook his head, "I was at home yesterday and didn't go out. ”
It's just that after finishing speaking, Zhu Qingshi suddenly became surprised, "You, you, you...... You don't sue me, you're the one who chatted with me on Weibo. ”
"What do you say?"
Zhang Ning continued to smile.
"Oh my God."
Zhu Qingshi stood up suddenly.
Then, he walked to Zhang Ning's side, looked left and right, and then, he laughed.
"Amazing, amazing, Zhang Ning, you are amazing."
With a thumbs up at Zhang Ning, Zhu Qingshi said, "I am convinced of you, in order to meet me, you actually ran to my Weibo in person and replied to my Weibo for more than a week." ”
"It's not, it's just, I just don't know, Mr. Zhu, are you still willing to see me now?"
"This ......"
At the mention of this, Zhu Qing was a little embarrassed, but soon said with a smile, "Yes, of course I do, I can't wait to see you in person." Well, here, I formally apologize to Zhang Ning, you were wrong, I was too high-minded before. ”
Zhu Qingshi's face was sincere.
"Where, where, I was too anxious before. Oh, by the way, where did we talk yesterday? ”
"Talking about independent enrollment, self-awarding degrees, and self-awarding diplomas."
Zhu Qingshi replied.
"Well, that's it. Speaking of which, if the three points of independent enrollment, self-awarding of degrees, and self-awarding of diplomas are really realized and done well, then China's education will really be saved. ”
"Yes, but it's very difficult, and I don't know when it's going to happen, it could take decades, it could take a hundred years. If it is realized, I think Mr. Qian Xuesen's problem can be satisfactorily solved. ”
"I'm not so pessimistic, I think maybe it can be achieved in 20 years."
"20 years?"
Zhu Qingshi shook his head, "Unlikely." ”
"Educational reform is more difficult than economic reform, which is why our country can quickly boost the economy, but education has always been very weak, which is why Mr. Qian has such feelings."
"This is not necessarily, although education reform is difficult, it must also be done by people with heart. Before, the state did not do it, and everyone did not do it, but now it will take a long time to reform. Moreover, if the state is allowed to reform, it will take longer. Because there are no government leaders, he will think about education every day. Didn't you say that you could open private colleges in order to achieve China's education reform? ”
"I said that, but as you said, I'm afraid, not many companies will do it."
"Mr. Zhu, you seem to have forgotten me."
"You...... What are you doing? ”
Zhu Qingshi looked at Zhang Ning, and then patted his head again, "I almost forgot your identity again, yes, you are not only the master I discussed with on Weibo, you are also the founder of Penguin, the king of Chinese technology, and the richest person in the world." It seems feasible for you Penguin to invest in a private institution. ”
"yes, I had this idea for a long time. However, it has not been implemented, on the one hand, it was not considered comprehensively at that time, and on the other hand, it was also because the right talent was not found. Later, Li Guosheng recommended you to me. ”
"You still want to invite me?"
Zhu Qingshi asked.
"Yes."
Zhang Ning nodded.
"At first, I just felt that you were the Vice-Chancellor of CUHK and had a lot of experience in education. I also had the recommendation of Principal Li Guosheng, so I found you. Later, I checked a lot of your information. In addition, the discussion with you on Weibo, I feel more and more that you are the person I am looking for. Only you can help me to truly reform China's education. ”
"Mr. Zhang Ning, you really think highly of me. I said on Weibo that I have been the president of CUHK for 10 years. At the beginning of my first year as Vice-Chancellor of CUHK, I was full of energy and ready to do a big job. I developed a lot of internal systems, but after a year, they were no longer in place. At the same time, I also took many people to visit foreign colleges and universities. I copied all of their teaching plans and brought them to our CUHK, and I asked the teachers to follow them. However, after a year of implementation, such a scheme was abolished. ”
"Why?"
"Because the lecturers feel that this kind of class is tiring, many of the lesson plans teach the content that is not examined, and they only teach the content in the textbook. And the students also feel that after learning so much waste, they don't take the test, they just learn the content to be tested. ”
"In the end, I seemed to get it. So, I don't do any reform of CUHK, I don't expand the number of students, I don't build new teaching schools, we still only recruit about 1,000 students every year. Ten years later, I found that it is precisely because we did not expand our enrollment, or because I did nothing of the reform, that CUHK graduates every year are well received at home and abroad. ”
"It seems like a satirical story."
It was supposed to be reformed, but it was found that the reform was getting worse and worse.
On the contrary, he did nothing, insisted on the original, and actually expressed Xiàn better.
Isn't that ironic, is it?
"yes, that's a great irony indeed."
Zhu Qingshi was also emotional.
"That's strange, looking at what you're saying now, it seems that you're not interested in reform, and you don't dare to reform education. However, why do you pay attention to this issue on Weibo, and you have always participated in this discussion? ”
"I don't know how to explain it, if I have to explain, that is, I am unwilling."
Seeing Zhu Qingshi's unwilling expression, Zhang Ning couldn't help but be moved.
"Mr. Zhu, actually, I don't think the reforms you made in your first year at CUHK are necessarily wrong. As for the reason for the failure, on the one hand, it is the inhibition of students and lecturers. On the other hand, I think the reason is more due to the problems of the original education system. Everyone's concept has not yet been transformed, and everyone has not yet done a good job in reform. If we take the liberty of reform, we will naturally meet with everyone's opposition. But now, our Chinese education has reached the point where it cannot be done without reform. This is not only the higher-ups who have ideas for reform, but even ordinary people who have strong ideas for education reform. ”
"Of course, there is another reason why your previous reforms were not successful, which may have something to do with administrativeness. Chinese universities look like universities, but some of them are like government agencies, more like government agencies. I think that private colleges can solve this problem perfectly. In private colleges, he will be de-administrative, one is to teach by the lecturer, the lecturer is the master of the school, what school leader, what director, one qiē is to serve the lecturer. ”
"Your idea is good, you can really try it."
Zhu Qingshi was a little moved, and asked tentatively, "But I want to know, why did you Penguin Company establish a higher education institution." Or to put it another way, Zhang Ning, why did you start a university? ”
"Why?"
Zhang Ning didn't know what to say.
"As a businessman, talking to people about education may make the generous family laugh. Maybe they will say, we only know how to make money, they only know how to do business, where do we know what education. I don't want to explain this, it's useless to explain too much. At first, I wanted to start a university, but it was just because of Wang Long's new incident, which made me feel disgusting to some universities in China. I want to create a school that is more powerful and more powerful than them. Later, because Penguin encountered a lot of problems in recruiting talents. The biggest problem is that many of our outstanding talents are found from abroad, and there are not many in China. It's not that we don't want to look for China, but we really can't find a few in China. At this time, I was also thinking, why not train a higher education institution, even if it is to send talents to myself in the future. Later, some time ago, after I saw Mr. Qian Xuesen's feelings, I finally knew what I really wanted to do......"
Why can't our talents be compared with the masters trained during the Republic of China?
Why don't our schools always produce outstanding talents?
I hope that in a few years, when I establish this school, it will be able to answer Mr. Qian's questions.
I don't know why.
When Zhang Ning said this, Zhu Qing on the side suddenly burst into tears.
"Zhang Ning, do you know why you have so many feelings about Mr. Qian's question?"
"When I took over as Vice-Chancellor of CUHK, I visited Mr. Chin and wrote letters to Mr. Chin with my views on the future of CUHK and some reforms. Mr. Qian was very supportive of my reform and told me to work hard, hoping to see a different CUHK. However, 10 years later, CUHK is still the current CUHK, although it has not deteriorated, it has not gotten any better at all, and we still have not cultivated top talents. ”
"Mr. Qian sighed a few days ago, although he didn't say it to me, but I almost wanted to go underground."
Zhu Qingshi had some feelings out of control.
"Mr. Zhu, don't be sad, there are some things that you can't do if you want to. I think that although Mr. Qian is emotional, he is not disappointed in China's education, and his emotion should be more of an encouragement. ”
"Maybe."
After a while, Zhu Qingshi stabilized his feelings.
Then he said, "Zhang Ning, I agree to your invitation." ”
"Mr. Zhu, you really agree."
"Yes, I promised. I think that if I don't agree, maybe, in my life, I will never be able to do anything for China's education reform again. ”
Zhu Qingshi replied in the affirmative.
"Great, great."
"Mr. Zhu, with your joining, I believe that China's education reform will definitely succeed, definitely."
Zhang Ning held Zhu Qingshi's hand and replied excitedly. Not to me, but I almost want to go underground. ”
Zhu Qingshi had some feelings out of control.
"Mr. Zhu, don't be sad, there are some things that you can't do if you want to. I think that although Mr. Qian is emotional, he is not disappointed in China's education, and his emotion should be more of an encouragement. ”
"Maybe."
After a while, Zhu Qingshi stabilized his feelings.
Then he said, "Zhang Ning, I agree to your invitation." ”
"Mr. Zhu, you really agree."
"Yes, I promised. I think that if I don't agree, maybe, in my life, I will never be able to do anything for China's education reform again. ”
Zhu Qingshi replied in the affirmative.
"Great, great."
"Mr. Zhu, with your joining, I believe that China's education reform will definitely succeed, definitely."
Zhang Ning held Zhu Qingshi's hand and replied excitedly.