Chapter 953: Qian Xuesen's question

There's a personality, there's a personality.

Zhang Ning was not angry, and still watched Zhu Qing from time to time.

Zhu Qingshi, who has retired, has a lot of energy, in addition to often going to some universities to give lectures, he also speaks from time to time on his Weibo, which is the penguin-certified Weibo.

The evaluation of colleges and universities is "only suitable for a small number of schools and a few types of schools," such as the University of Science and Technology of China, Peking University, Tsinghua University, and Fudan University, which have a foundation, and "for schools with far differences in conditions or completely different types, stop such evaluations as soon as possible, otherwise these schools will be destroyed." ”

This is a Weibo post recently posted by Zhu Qingshi.

Weibo is talking about the evaluation of colleges and universities.

The reason why this question is raised is related to the current social hot spots.

It is now April 2005, and the college entrance examination in China is getting closer and closer.

At the same time, the annual national college evaluation also appeared at this time.

Speaking of this assessment, it is actually some rankings of colleges and universities in the country.

Which university, which university is ranked first, and what are the top 10 universities in the country, etc.

Every year, such an assessment attracts a lot of interest.

However, unlike many media outlets that talk about the national college assessment scores, Zhu Qingshi is very opposed to this kind of assessment.

The credibility of today's teaching evaluations lies in the bubble of results, which has severely damaged academic integrity. On the one hand, the university evaluation expert group has zĂ i formalism, goes through the motions, and accepts public relations; On the other hand, the collective cheating of colleges and universities has virtually destroyed the morality and personality of teachers and students.

Rest with the people for three years, no assessment for three years, no meeting for three years. The most important thing to do to improve the quality of teaching is to allow schools to recuperate. What's more, the quality of a school is not judged by the evaluation of the superior organization. The best university in the world, it is evaluated by the influence of society.

My main contribution to CUHK is not what I have done, but what I have not done. "It is to save HKUST from a lot of big tosses over the years." For example, there is no large-scale expansion, no new parks are built, etc.

Li Guosheng is not wrong to recommend, it seems that this Zhu Qingshi is really sharp.

Keep watching.

Zhang Ning opened a vest and quietly watched Zhu Qingshi's Weibo.

Not only that, Zhang Ning also replied to Zhu Qingshi's Weibo in a small way.

"Social assessment looks good, but the domestic society is generally scattered, and it is impossible for the private sector to have such an evaluation agency. Even if there is, I'm afraid, everyone doesn't believe in such an evaluation agency. So, I think, the evaluation is not the problem, on the contrary, he is good. At the very least, he let more students and parents know the characteristics of schools across the country, but a failure to make a fair and impartial assessment is a failed evaluation. ”

Click to reply, Zhang Ning really wants to discuss it with Zhu Qingshi on Weibo.

It's a pity that although Zhu Qingshi doesn't have many fans, only more than 10,000, there are dozens of replies, and after Zhang Ning replied, Zhu Qingshi didn't reply within a few days.

However, Zhang Ning did not lose heart, but continued to watch Zhu Qingshi's Weibo.

On this day, the media once again broke the news that one of the key innovations in education this year -- the abolition of the arts and sciences division.

The official plan is that starting this year, it will be implemented in a small number of places across the country. In the future, the abolition of arts and sciences may be extended to the whole country.

This piece of news has attracted a lot of attention.

Some people say that the abolition of the liberal arts and sciences is the beginning of a comprehensive education, which is a good thing and worthy of praise.

Some people also say that now students feel that there are too many knowledge points in one subject, and there is no distinction between arts and sciences, which puts a heavier burden on students.

Zhu Qingshi also has his own views on this point.

However, Zhu Qingshi neither agreed with the separation, nor did he agree with the non-division.

On Weibo, Zhu Qingshi said that in fact, "canceling liberal arts and sciences" is a very superficial issue, which is not worth entangling with at all, but this shallow and superficial issue has attracted too many people's attention, and there will be no results and no point in discussing it in this way. If the college entrance examination is not reformed, the educational structure is not adjusted, and the "abolition of arts and sciences" is also a vain discussion.

I do not agree with or oppose the abolition of the arts and sciences division. However, now the college entrance examination is still a "baton", and the college entrance examination decides what to test, and students will learn what they will learn. If students do not follow this model, they will not be able to enter the university, and of course, they will not be able to develop in an all-round way. Only by truly promoting the reform of the college entrance examination and resolving the deep-seated problems in the system such as the adjustment of the educational structure can the superficial problems of how colleges and universities should recruit students and how to divide the liberal arts and sciences into disciplines will naturally be solved. The college entrance examination enrollment should break the "one test for life", realize the comprehensive and unified calculation of the usual grades and the college entrance examination scores, and unify the standards.

This Zhu Qingshi really deserves to be the pioneer of education reform in later generations.

These words can be said to have spoken the hearts of many people.

Many fans who watched Zhu Qingshi's Weibo left messages to Zhu Qingshi to express their support.

Oppose an examination for life.

Yes, you should add your usual grades, as well as your usual table at school.

What does a good test show is that Chinese have always been exam geniuses, but in terms of world innovation, they are still weaker than European and American students.

Of course, Zhang Ning is also opposed to this kind of college entrance examination that is for life.

Otherwise, he didn't want to start his own school and train his own talents.

However, Zhang Ning still replied to Zhu Qingshi very seriously.

Although the college entrance examination is not necessarily perfect for life, at this stage, the only way for the country to come up with a large-scale recruitment of talents is the college entrance examination. As for what you said, Mr. Zhu, it seems good to realize the comprehensive and unified calculation of the usual grades and the college entrance examination scores, but it is even more difficult to implement.

Who can guarantee that the usual results are true or false?

Who can guarantee the fairness of this.

I'm afraid that with so many schools across the country now, just a normal grade may be mixed with countless waters.

Of course, perhaps the state can also oversee it. But this kind of large-scale supervision is too time-consuming and troublesome.

Third, it is impossible for local supervision to ensure fairness.

Similarly, Zhang Ning's @, Zhu Qingshi still did not reply.

Another week passed.

This week, Zhu Qingshi only updated three Weibo posts.

The three Weibo posts are all relatively ordinary things, and Zhang Ning did not pay attention.

What attracted Zhang Ning's attention was a sigh from Qian Xuesen, the father of China's aerospace.

China has developed for so many years and has established many schools. After so many years of training, none of the academic achievements can be compared with the masters cultivated during the Republic of China, why does our school always fail to cultivate outstanding talents?

This sentence of emotion was expressed by Qian Xuesen when the domestic leaders went to visit Qian Xuesen that day.

This emotion of later generations is also called Qian Xuesen's question.

In connection with Qian Xuelin's question, there is also the Needham problem: "Why did the ancient Chinese far exceed the development of science and technology in science and technology between the first century BC and the sixteenth century AD?" Why did the separation of church and state in China, the civil selection system, private school education, and the hundred schools of thought not emerge in Europe during the same period? Why modern science did not arise in China, but in the West in the seventeenth century. ”

This is a question posed by Joseph Needham in 1976, and this question is also known as the Needham problem.

At the same time, Joseph Needham also raised a paradox: "Why did the ancient Chinese invent the compass, gunpowder, papermaking, and printing, but the Industrial Revolution did not begin in China?" And Columbus and Magellan discovered the world with the compass, opened the door to China with gunpowder, and spread European civilization with papermaking and printing! ”

At that time, the Needham problem also caused many people to be depressed.

Yes, why did China go so well at the beginning for more than a thousand years, but in the end it was such a loser?

People can't answer this dilemma.

This has become an unsolved problem.

It's just that, compared to the historical problems of thousands or hundreds of years ago, people discuss them, and they are over. This is history, after all, they cannot control it, and people will feel that it has nothing to do with the current Chinese. To blame, we can only blame those in power in history, because they are incompetent and they are mediocre.

However, people are obviously more concerned about Qian Xuesen's question now.

Because this is happening in modern times.

It's all about yourself.

This is not only a problem for ourselves, but also for the country we are in.

Undoubtedly, the sudden emotion of such a master simply made the whole country feel ashamed.

Why can't our talents be compared with the masters trained during the Republic of China?

Why don't our schools always produce outstanding talents?

When such an emotion was exposed by the media, it caused a sensation in the whole of China.

Some shouted, this is a disgrace to the country.

There are also people who are indignant, which is the sadness of Chinese education.

More people are crying, and if some scientists like Qian Lao pass away, then there will be no masters in China who can do it.

Suddenly, Qian Xuesen's emotion has become a hot spot at the moment, and it has also made the whole people fall into deep thought.

At the same time, there are also many experts, scholars, and professors who try to answer Qian Xuesen's questions.

Some scholars say that the inability of education to be mass-produced is the key to China's inability to train masters during the Republic of China.

Some experts also said that the college entrance examination is the biggest obstacle to answering Qian Xuesen's question.

Some professors also said that answering Qian Xuesen's question requires a process. Western science has developed to this day, with a history of three to four hundred years, and it is impossible for China to condense the tradition of three or four hundred years and develop it all at once in thirty or forty years. In other words, it is not that there is no future for the development of science in China, but that there must be a time and not be in too much of a hurry.

Who is Qian Xuesen, he is the father of China's aerospace and he is the king of rockets.

Without him, it is estimated that China's satellites will be postponed by 20 years.

This international-level master, his emotion, has shaken countless people.

The Ministry of Education held an emergency meeting to meet Qian Xuesen's question and put forward a pilot plan for the training of top-notch students in basic disciplines.

In the process of formulating the principles of the "Outline of the National Medium and Long-term Education Reform and Development Plan", the Ministry of Education and the Organization Department of the CPC Central Committee have made preparations for the cultivation of top-notch innovative talents in basic disciplines, and selected 20 Chinese universities in five disciplines, namely mathematics, physics, chemistry, information technology and biology, to take the lead in piloting, and strive to make breakthroughs in the cultivation of innovative talents.

The plan will first start the experiment from five basic disciplines such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, and computer, and dynamically select particularly outstanding students every year, equip first-class teachers, provide first-class learning conditions, innovate training methods, and build a special channel for the cultivation of top-notch talents in basic sciences. Provide scholarships, international exchanges, scientific research training and other funds; We will strive to create a first-class academic environment and atmosphere for the students supported by the program to grow into leaders in related basic science fields.

As soon as the plan was announced, China's education reform was also hotly debated among countless people across the country.

It's just that education reform is easy to say, but it is difficult to do.

How to reform the education reform and what to reform, many people have no way to start and what to do.

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Why can't our talents be compared with the masters trained during the Republic of China?

Why don't our schools always produce outstanding talents?

Qian Xuesen's question, while stimulating everyone, also deeply stimulated Zhang Ning.

Although education reform is not Zhang Ning's business, he is more of a government business and a national business.

However, Zhang Ning, who is also Chinese, couldn't help but feel a heartache when he saw these two problems.

yes, why, why?

Zhang Ning actually knows some reasons, but it's one thing to know, and whether he can do it is another.

There was some impatience, and Zhang Ning almost wanted to invite Zhu Qingshi immediately.

logged in to Zhu Qingshi's Weibo, and sure enough, Qian Xuesen's question also made Zhu Qingshi completely uneasy.

At present, China has not fully developed, and an important reason is that no university can run a school in accordance with the model of cultivating talents for scientific and technological invention and innovation. Qian Xuesen's question includes two levels: one is the model of the school to cultivate innovative and innovative talents, and the other is the mechanism for innovative and entrepreneurial talents to play a role in society and stand out.

This is the first Weibo post posted by Zhu Qingshi about Qian Xuesen.

It can be seen that the fundamental reason for China's slow rise is mainly in education.

On the one hand, there are educational goals. Chinese education in the cultural circle of Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism emphasizes ethics and knowledge, and the ultimate goal is to be a gentleman; Since ancient Greek philosophy, Western education has formed a tradition of formal logic theory and empirical verification of science, emphasizing truth and wisdom, with the ultimate goal of being thinkers and scientists. Brenitz also said that China is good at politics and ethics, while the West is good at mathematics and natural science, and the difference in ultimate goals has gradually widened the distance between the two educations.

On the other hand, there are internal problems in the education system. If education does not produce outstanding talents, the rise of the country will be constrained in all aspects. There have been countless critical and constructive articles on the widespread problems in China's education sector, such as exam-oriented education, academic corruption, and plagiarism, but the problems have never been truly resolved. In the final analysis, the reform of the education system has always been like an "old cow climbing", the trend of administrativeization of schools has intensified, and the trend of utilitarianism of teachers has intensified.

In addition, Zhu Qingshi even criticized the Ministry of Education, pointing out that the "pilot plan for cultivating top-notch students in basic disciplines" is probably another policy to deal with higher-level leaders. In a few years, you will never see such a plan again.

Moreover, looking at the name of this plan feels very awkward.

I really don't know who came up with this name.

If this is put on teaching, it is strange that students can learn well.

Seeing Zhu Qingshi's various Weibo messages kept being issued, Zhang Ning was also anxious, and directly @sprayed Zhu Qingshi.

"Mr. Zhu, I thought you had some insight and had your own unique understanding of all aspects of education. To this day, I think so, too. But what's the use of what you're posting on Weibo? What's the use of you talking on Weibo, what's the difference between that and those trolls on the Internet, of course, maybe there's a difference. Most of the trolls on the Internet are squirting for no reason, and you are squirting with reason. The point is, I wonder if you have any concrete solutions other than publishing such and such problems. ”

After posting this sentence, Zhang Ning had some regrets and felt that he had spoken too much.

It's just that I posted it myself, and I can't delete it.

As a result, Zhang Ning didn't expect it.

Previously, Zhu Qingshi replied to several replies in a row, but Zhu Qingshi ignored it, but this sentence was quickly replied.

"Sir, I've watched the message you gave me earlier. Some of your doubts were well said, I didn't have time to reply before, sorry. Today, your message also benefited me a lot. Yes, I only said it on Weibo, what's the use of that. China's education is still so bad, when will the education reform be improved? I don't think I can answer that question. However, having been doing education for decades, I have a few thoughts to share with you. ”

"I think that the reform of domestic education is a good thing, but the problems involved in domestic education are too big, and there are many people involved. Sometimes, it is not necessary to reform to reform well. In my opinion, in terms of education reform, the country does not like to refer to the experience of some foreign countries. For example, the experience of foreign private enterprises in running schools, private people to set up schools, and even establish colleges and universities. In my opinion, this is complementary to the reform of education in the country. ”

Zhu Qingshi's answer made Zhang Ning's eyes light up.

Sure enough, he had long had the idea of education reform.

"It's a good idea to start a school privately. However, there have been many private colleges and universities in China. I would like to ask if these private schools are the way out for China's education. Only these private colleges and universities can create talents that can be compared with the masters of the Republic of China? ”

This is undoubtedly an irony.

Although domestic private universities are not useless, they are definitely much worse than public universities.

Even public colleges and universities cannot cultivate top talents, and these private colleges and universities are even more impossible.

"I think this path is correct, as for some private universities in China, I can only say that they pay too much attention to business. Of course, it also has a lot to do with their low energy. What I hope is for one or more super-powerful companies to emerge and establish a high-quality, high-standard higher education institution. In this way, on the one hand, the problem of funds can be solved, and on the other hand, excellent tutors at home and abroad can also be hired with funds. At the same time, because it is a private school, it has greater autonomy than public colleges and universities in all aspects, and can be eclectic in cultivating talents. ”

"There's a zĂ i problem with that, too."

Zhang Ning defended Zhu Qingshi again.

"It seems feasible to have a super enterprise alliance to start, but the major enterprises are commercial companies, and it is difficult to make a profit in the short term to establish a school, and the investment is very large, so they are generally unlikely to enter. Unless, those central enterprises come forward, so that they have so much spare money. However, this is no different from the establishment of universities by the state. In addition, there are still many problems with privately established schools. Let's not say that the state does not support all aspects of conditions, even if it is to give all aspects of conditional support, how should these private enterprises run schools. For example, how do they recruit students, whether they take the college entrance examination like the country, or do they follow their own methods. Another question, what about diplomas and academic qualifications? After finishing this sentence, Zhang Ning regretted a little, feeling that he had spoken too much.

It's just that I posted it myself, and I can't delete it.

As a result, Zhang Ning didn't expect it.

Previously, Zhu Qingshi replied to several replies in a row, but Zhu Qingshi ignored it, but this sentence was quickly replied.

"Sir, I've watched the message you gave me earlier. Some of your doubts were well said, I didn't have time to reply before, sorry. Today, your message also benefited me a lot. Yes, I only said it on Weibo, what's the use of that. China's education is still so bad, when will the education reform be improved? I don't think I can answer that question. However, having been doing education for decades, I have a few thoughts to share with you. ”

"I think that the reform of domestic education is a good thing, but the problems involved in domestic education are too big, and there are many people involved. Sometimes, it is not necessary to reform to reform well. In my opinion, in terms of education reform, the country does not like to refer to the experience of some foreign countries. For example, the experience of foreign private enterprises in running schools, private people to set up schools, and even establish colleges and universities. In my opinion, this is complementary to the reform of education in the country. ”

Zhu Qingshi's answer made Zhang Ning's eyes light up.

Sure enough, he had long had the idea of education reform.

"It's a good idea to start a school privately. However, there have been many private colleges and universities in China. I would like to ask if these private schools are the way out for China's education. Only these private colleges and universities can create talents that can be compared with the masters of the Republic of China? ”

This is undoubtedly an irony.

Although domestic private universities are not useless, they are definitely much worse than public universities.

Even public colleges and universities cannot cultivate top talents, and these private colleges and universities are even more impossible.

"I think this path is correct, as for some private universities in China, I can only say that they pay too much attention to business. Of course, it also has a lot to do with their low energy. What I hope is for one or more super-powerful companies to emerge and establish a high-quality, high-standard higher education institution. In this way, on the one hand, the problem of funds can be solved, and on the other hand, excellent tutors at home and abroad can also be hired with funds. At the same time, because it is a private school, it has greater autonomy than public colleges and universities in all aspects, and can be eclectic in cultivating talents. ”

"There's a zĂ i problem with that, too."

Zhang Ning defended Zhu Qingshi again.

"It seems feasible to have a super enterprise alliance to start, but the major enterprises are commercial companies, and it is difficult to make a profit in the short term to establish a school, and the investment is very large, so they are generally unlikely to enter. Unless, those central enterprises come forward, so that they have so much spare money. However, this is no different from the establishment of universities by the state. In addition, there are still many problems with privately established schools. Let's not say that the state does not support all aspects of conditions, even if it is to give all aspects of conditional support, how should these private enterprises run schools. For example, how do they recruit students, whether they take the college entrance examination like the country, or do they follow their own methods. Another question, what about diplomas and academic qualifications? ”